iForged Performance Alloys Release 2003 Collection
03-05-2003, 11:54 AM
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nice work Vince.
hope to see you soon (tomarrow)
I pick up my rear tires today and the fronts as soon as the wheels are ready to be picked up (harder to find the toyos than I thought it was going to be)
btw, the new center caps look GREAT!!
hope to see you soon (tomarrow)
I pick up my rear tires today and the fronts as soon as the wheels are ready to be picked up (harder to find the toyos than I thought it was going to be)
btw, the new center caps look GREAT!!
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03-05-2003, 07:55 PM
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could you guys possibly rip-off HRE anymore????????? even down to your center caps! nothing like being orignal 
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03-05-2003, 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by KJ-350
Your design guys should ever be so proud
Your design guys should ever be so proud
I would understand if you were somehow involved w/ HRE (owner/stockholder/etc.) then, I retract my comments, but if not then who cares????? Let them as a business, do their thing......
I'll get off my soapbox now..... Just my 2 pennies.....
*I guess I should put on my flame-suit*
03-05-2003, 09:44 PM
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true, but come on now guys! 99% of their line is a spitting image of the HRE line down their logo! true there are only so many things you can do with a 5, 6, 7 etc spoke how about at least trying to do something original! I can see 1, 2, 3, maaaaybe even 4 wheels out of a line-up being "similar" but their entire line of wheels is nothing short of a direct copy of just about every wheel HRE has. If there were others, ok, but there is not. Anyone can simply copy, true skill and creativity is what stand out / where it counts! And by doing that they show absolutely zero of either! Just like you both have said, we are all entitled to our $0.02, that's mine and I'm just going to leave it at that before some big ugly flame war blows up.
03-05-2003, 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by KJ-350
true, but come on now guys! 99% of their line is a spitting image of the HRE line down their logo! true there are only so many things you can do with a 5, 6, 7 etc spoke how about at least trying to do something original! I can see 1, 2, 3, maaaaybe even 4 wheels out of a line-up being "similar" but their entire line of wheels is nothing short of a direct copy of just about every wheel HRE has. If there were others, ok, but there is not. Anyone can simply copy, true skill and creativity is what stand out / where it counts! And by doing that they show absolutely zero of either! Just like you both have said, we are all entitled to our $0.02, that's mine and I'm just going to leave it at that before some big ugly flame war blows up.
true, but come on now guys! 99% of their line is a spitting image of the HRE line down their logo! true there are only so many things you can do with a 5, 6, 7 etc spoke how about at least trying to do something original! I can see 1, 2, 3, maaaaybe even 4 wheels out of a line-up being "similar" but their entire line of wheels is nothing short of a direct copy of just about every wheel HRE has. If there were others, ok, but there is not. Anyone can simply copy, true skill and creativity is what stand out / where it counts! And by doing that they show absolutely zero of either! Just like you both have said, we are all entitled to our $0.02, that's mine and I'm just going to leave it at that before some big ugly flame war blows up.
I'm by no means trying to start a flame war, but I do see where your side of things........ It is kinda weird how every iforge rim has an HRE twin......
Oh well.......
03-05-2003, 10:27 PM
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OK, Lets run down the order then and compare (you need to realize that the bolt and the Lip are NOT a signiture of either wheel, so THROUGH that characterstic out.
lets start here
#1 ONE is a 6 the other is a 7 SPOKE
7 SPOKE iForged
6 spoke HRE
btw, look at the way the spoke contuor next to the bolt looks, totally different
example #2
these wheels look so different I don't even think I need to say anything, but if you need a hint, look how big the slots are, teh # of slots, the way the parameter looks, and the center cap, etc...
BTW, neither HRE or iForged invented that design
example #3
16 VS 17 spoke, Both of these wheels are OBVIOUSLY a similar design to the ALPINA BMW wheels.
example #4
these wheels are BOTH 7 spokes, BUT the shape of the spokes and the parameter is recessed on the HRE, look closely and you will see that they are only similar in the sense that that both have 7 spoke, bolts, and lips
example #5
these are both 5 spoke designs,fairly similar in design, as most 5 spokes are. I like the iForged better in the sense that the spoke is more straight and doesn't taper (that may sound stupid and picky, BUT believe it or NOT that is what sold my WIFE on the iForged wheel and NOT the HRE, although I do like both designs. If the difference MEANS that much to my wife, I sure hope it means somehting (either way) to car fanatics that LIVE cars.
example #6
these LOOK NOTHING alike, so I won't even waste time
example #7
All, I mean ALL of these wheels could be variations of BBS, probably the MOST well know company that produces "mesh" style wheels. Many other companys do them know as well, so I hardly think HRE is the pioneer in this department
in conclusion, BOTH of these wheels provide the best quality and design with similar (same) method of producing a wheel (in other words any true 3 piece wheel that is machined from a FORGED piece of billet, uses a lip and bolts/rivots are going to have some very very similar features. If you have seen how they build these wheels (vs a cast wheel) you would understand why there are so many similar characteristics.
I am very glad there are 2 options, have you ever felt yourself saying "man I love that wheel, if ONLY it did SUCH and SUCH different"
I was looking at the 5 spoke HRE, But didn't like the shape of the spokes as well, I was looking at these VOLKS, and I like how straight the spokes are BUT I don't like how busy the parameter holes/bolts look (this is my 2nd favorite wheel, next to the iforged).
I am just glad there is an alternative with a different variation of a 5, 6, 7 and multiple spoke designs.
lets start here
#1 ONE is a 6 the other is a 7 SPOKE
7 SPOKE iForged
6 spoke HRE
btw, look at the way the spoke contuor next to the bolt looks, totally different
example #2
these wheels look so different I don't even think I need to say anything, but if you need a hint, look how big the slots are, teh # of slots, the way the parameter looks, and the center cap, etc...
BTW, neither HRE or iForged invented that design
example #3
16 VS 17 spoke, Both of these wheels are OBVIOUSLY a similar design to the ALPINA BMW wheels.
example #4
these wheels are BOTH 7 spokes, BUT the shape of the spokes and the parameter is recessed on the HRE, look closely and you will see that they are only similar in the sense that that both have 7 spoke, bolts, and lips
example #5
these are both 5 spoke designs,fairly similar in design, as most 5 spokes are. I like the iForged better in the sense that the spoke is more straight and doesn't taper (that may sound stupid and picky, BUT believe it or NOT that is what sold my WIFE on the iForged wheel and NOT the HRE, although I do like both designs. If the difference MEANS that much to my wife, I sure hope it means somehting (either way) to car fanatics that LIVE cars.
example #6
these LOOK NOTHING alike, so I won't even waste time
example #7
All, I mean ALL of these wheels could be variations of BBS, probably the MOST well know company that produces "mesh" style wheels. Many other companys do them know as well, so I hardly think HRE is the pioneer in this department
in conclusion, BOTH of these wheels provide the best quality and design with similar (same) method of producing a wheel (in other words any true 3 piece wheel that is machined from a FORGED piece of billet, uses a lip and bolts/rivots are going to have some very very similar features. If you have seen how they build these wheels (vs a cast wheel) you would understand why there are so many similar characteristics.
I am very glad there are 2 options, have you ever felt yourself saying "man I love that wheel, if ONLY it did SUCH and SUCH different"
I was looking at the 5 spoke HRE, But didn't like the shape of the spokes as well, I was looking at these VOLKS, and I like how straight the spokes are BUT I don't like how busy the parameter holes/bolts look (this is my 2nd favorite wheel, next to the iforged).
I am just glad there is an alternative with a different variation of a 5, 6, 7 and multiple spoke designs.
03-05-2003, 10:51 PM
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ok sorry, I grabbed the wrong ones, had 3 pages open once copying links...here are the two I meant to use
again, 99% the same as HRE entire line-up. Taking a rim that already exists and making a small change like 3 degrees in the spoke angle or adding / taking away 1 or 2 bolts so they are not 100% identical is nothing to be impressed by. i agree they would be a good option for someone that is a fan of HRE but doesn't want to or cant spend the $$ for them, but that's about it. i see your side and agree, no problem. but there is no way on earth someone can not see that they targeted HRE and made their entire line as close to HRE's as they could w/o getting in trouble or something like that I guess!
I'm dropping it now ok, I made my point as did you guys. A great second option to everyone that has always wanted HRE, yah! Anything we should be impressed / blown away with by them, not at all! Night guys...
again, 99% the same as HRE entire line-up. Taking a rim that already exists and making a small change like 3 degrees in the spoke angle or adding / taking away 1 or 2 bolts so they are not 100% identical is nothing to be impressed by. i agree they would be a good option for someone that is a fan of HRE but doesn't want to or cant spend the $$ for them, but that's about it. i see your side and agree, no problem. but there is no way on earth someone can not see that they targeted HRE and made their entire line as close to HRE's as they could w/o getting in trouble or something like that I guess!
I'm dropping it now ok, I made my point as did you guys. A great second option to everyone that has always wanted HRE, yah! Anything we should be impressed / blown away with by them, not at all! Night guys...
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03-05-2003, 10:55 PM
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"""ok sorry, I grabbed the wrong ones, had 3 pages open once copying links...here are the two I meant to use"""
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well it looks like you grabbed the wrong links again, oh well, have a good night
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well it looks like you grabbed the wrong links again, oh well, have a good night
03-05-2003, 11:00 PM
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put both wheels at the same angle and they would be a 99% match. geez man, your pretty relentless in defending them about this when its beyond obvious what they did, you work for these guys or something? j/j Its dropped bud, night
j/j Its dropped bud, night
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