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Old 10-11-2006, 06:04 PM
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I ran through the stock potenzas in about 16k miles and have now run through 2 sets of Toyos; 20k on the first ones and about 18k on these. Is there a decent handling tire out there that does well in the rain and can get good mileage? I do a lot of interstate driving and ice traction is not an issue for me..
Old 10-11-2006, 07:38 PM
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I've got about 12k on my Kumho ASXs, and there's still lots of tread left -- even though I sometimes use them on an autocross course.
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Yes.

Just look at tread wear ratings. Although not an exact science, a tire with a rating of 300 with last twice as long as one rated 150. The problem with 300 rated tires is that most are not performance tires.
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I have a set of BF-Goodrich KDW-2's. I have almost 20k miles on the and probaby can get another 5-10k on them depending on how I use them (they have seen one track session and about 3 auto-x sessions already, a road trip to Florida and back, road trip to St. Louis and back, and a road trip to Niagara Falls and back).

They have a treadwear rating of 300+, but I believe offer one of the best overall packages in sidewall stiffness, dry traction, wet traction, and longevity. They are a bit loud however.
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My eagle F1's have a 280 rating, but their expensive.
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I have about 15k on my Toyos and I might be able to get another 10k out of them. But the BF Goodrich KDW's seem to have the best in tread wear rating so I'm going with those next. With high performance tires it's very difficult to get a tire that will last a life time. But then again, we look the best driving on the street. Good Luck
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Whatever you do, DONT look at the tread wear rating on kuhmo ASX's. They're cheap tires, and have a rediculous tread rate of like 450 or something, and thats false. I can get maybe another 10k miles out of mine and they have 5k on them now.
I'm going to get KDW 2 next time.
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I have Kim SPT and am at 10k miles, looks like they are about half done, as a matter of fact, I am getting them rotated today (remounted on the opposite sides). They have seen one autox, 4 1000 mile trips and a dozen brisk mountain runs. I would go with the KDW2 is it were not for the noise, I have talked to a few people about them and they all noticed good wear but noisy.

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Originally Posted by wren57
I ran through the stock potenzas in about 16k miles and have now run through 2 sets of Toyos; 20k on the first ones and about 18k on these. Is there a decent handling tire out there that does well in the rain and can get good mileage? I do a lot of interstate driving and ice traction is not an issue for me..
Ive ranned some Nitto 555 for 23k miles and they held up great. they handle rain very well when new but as the tread wears down, so should your speed in the rain.

I heard the Goodyear F1 GSD3 do everything well but dont know how long they hold up.
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I've been running Falken 451's now for over 20k miles......and 15k of that has been with boost. 285/35 18, and 255/35 18.
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Originally Posted by plumpzz
Whatever you do, DONT look at the tread wear rating on kuhmo ASX's. They're cheap tires, and have a rediculous tread rate of like 450 or something, and thats false. I can get maybe another 10k miles out of mine and they have 5k on them now.
I'm going to get KDW 2 next time.
The way that I understand it, treadwear ratings are not an standard across the industry, they are standard for the manufacturer. So a kuhmo with a rating of 300 will not necessarily last twice as long as a Bridgestone with a 150 rating. the Kuhmo with a rating of 300 should last twice as long as another Kuhmo with a rating of 150. So you really can't compare treadwear across brands. That's just what I've been told by my friends that are tire jockys.

But I love my Kuhmo Ecsta MXs. In Washington, we get a fair amount of wet driving conditions and mine handle great. Even with the wide rear tires, they just cut right through standing water. And mine have lasted me over 20k miles for the rear. When I replaced the rears, I cross-rotated the fronts and have almost 30k on those.
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Ive had some Nitto NT555s for over 30,000 miles and still have a ways to go.
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Originally Posted by pacfwu
The way that I understand it, treadwear ratings are not an standard across the industry, they are standard for the manufacturer. So a kuhmo with a rating of 300 will not necessarily last twice as long as a Bridgestone with a 150 rating. the Kuhmo with a rating of 300 should last twice as long as another Kuhmo with a rating of 150. So you really can't compare treadwear across brands.
Interesting. Do you have a reference for that information? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by chimmike
I've been running Falken 451's now for over 20k miles......and 15k of that has been with boost. 285/35 18, and 255/35 18.
Didnt Falken stop making the 451's? I was thinking about trying them out.
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Originally Posted by davidv
Interesting. Do you have a reference for that information? Thanks.
Nope. Just something that my friends that have worked for Les Schwab and other tire companies mentioned to me. So it's just something to be taken with a grain of salt.
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Just got some Bridgestone Potenza RE960as Pole Positions w/ a 400AA Treadwear rating

handles great, very quiet, good both in wet and dry

I definately recommend them
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Originally Posted by davidv
Interesting. Do you have a reference for that information? Thanks.
1. Tread life considerations: What's your idea of how long a set of tires should last? Keep in mind that in some instances, a tire's wear rating is done through manufacturer testing and may not be the most accurate representation of a tire's true life expectancy. One way to get a handle on a tire's projected life expectancy (besides what they're warranted for, say, 40,000 miles for example) is to look at part of the UTQG (Uniform Tire Quality Grading) rating. The U.S. Department of Transportation requires each manufacturer to grade its tires under the UTQG labeling system and establish ratings for tread wear, traction and temperature resistance. These tests are conducted independently by each manufacturer following government guidelines to assign values that represent a comparison between the tested tire and a control tire. While traction and temperature resistance ratings are specific performance levels, the tread wear ratings are assigned by the manufacturers following field testing and are most accurate when comparing tires of the same brand. Tread wear receives a comparative rating based on wear rate of the tire in field testing following a government specified course. For example, a tire grade of 150 wears 50 percent longer than a tire graded 100. Actual performance of the tire can vary significantly depending on conditions, but the tire's UTQG tread life number can help you get in the ballpark as to how long a tire will really last.
http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/tir...0/article.html

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Thanks for legitimizing my statement.
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