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Old 09-11-2008, 12:57 PM
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I have a set of new muteki lug nuts that came in after I put my new wheels on, but now I am itching to put the new nuts on. My question is, can I replace one lug nut at a time with the car sitting on the tires (i.e. not using a lift or jack or anything)? I only have the OEM scissor jack for now and it makes me nervous using it because it makes all sorts of creaks and groans and I just don't trust it.

I figure the lug nuts are only 'hand' tight after I put on a wheel and lower the car down, and they get torqued while the wheel is loaded up. So now the situation would be that all 5 are already on there and torqued, so I will un-torque, remove, then install and torque the new nut, one at a time. Seems like it would be OK to do as long as I make sure to check the torque 20-30 miles down the road (which is good practice anyway).

Anyone have opinion or experience on this?
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Originally Posted by sry110
I have a set of new muteki lug nuts that came in after I put my new wheels on, but now I am itching to put the new nuts on. My question is, can I replace one lug nut at a time with the car sitting on the tires (i.e. not using a lift or jack or anything)? I only have the OEM scissor jack for now and it makes me nervous using it because it makes all sorts of creaks and groans and I just don't trust it.

I figure the lug nuts are only 'hand' tight after I put on a wheel and lower the car down, and they get torqued while the wheel is loaded up. So now the situation would be that all 5 are already on there and torqued, so I will un-torque, remove, then install and torque the new nut, one at a time. Seems like it would be OK to do as long as I make sure to check the torque 20-30 miles down the road (which is good practice anyway).

Anyone have opinion or experience on this?






ofcourse you can replace one lug at a time without lifting your car........are you serious.....wait.....never mind
Old 09-11-2008, 01:17 PM
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yes, and you've got the be kidding, that scissor jack is possibly the most reliable jack you'll ever own...not like its a bumper jack (hopefully I'm not the only one who remembers those.)
Old 09-11-2008, 01:22 PM
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The only thing I would worry about is that there is a better chance of stripping the studs with the added pressure. Replacing studs sucks.
Old 09-11-2008, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by WTX350Z
yes, and you've got the be kidding, that scissor jack is possibly the most reliable jack you'll ever own...not like its a bumper jack (hopefully I'm not the only one who remembers those.)
Thanks for the feedback guys. especially _NIZMO_ haha

The thing that makes me nervous is the metal 'hook' that goes through the eye on the jack - it seems to be deforming.

Anyways I'll give it a try, hopefully won't strip any studs.
Old 09-11-2008, 05:25 PM
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Good call on not using your scissor jack, I didnt trust it either but like a dumbass I used it anyway, just about fell over dead when I saw it start to lean and then fall, luckly It didnt do any damage.
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you can replace the lug nuts 1 at a time - no need for a jack

peteski - the oem scissor jack works just fine, albeit a touch cumbersome. If you use it on level pavement and at the recommended jack points, it won't tip over
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Originally Posted by Peteski
Good call on not using your scissor jack, I didnt trust it either but like a dumbass I used it anyway, just about fell over dead when I saw it start to lean and then fall, luckly It didnt do any damage.
3% rule strikes again

- You must be at least 3% smarter than the object you are trying to use.

Based on this you shouldn't ever touch a tool again...
Old 09-11-2008, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sry110
I only have the OEM scissor jack for now and it makes me nervous using it because it makes all sorts of creaks and groans and I just don't trust it.
Use a pair of wheel chokes whenever you use any jack.
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[QUOTE=WTX350Z]3% rule strikes again

- You must be at least 3% smarter than the object you are trying to use.

QUOTE]

I've never heard that but that is too funny!
Old 09-11-2008, 06:08 PM
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Heck, you can drive the car with one lug nut removed. (I wouldn't suggest it though).
Old 09-11-2008, 06:12 PM
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Here you go
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=91039
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If I understand the question… and, I’m not sure that I do… so forgive me if I missed the point.

You can easily replace the lugs without jacking-up the corners. To do this, remove lugs individually and install the new ones, one by one.

With the car on the ground (not on a jack), remove the first lug, replace it and torque it. Then roll the car forward and do the next lug, and so one.

When all lugs are replaced, and you want to be absolutely sure, check all the torque values on each lug.

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Originally Posted by WTX350Z
3% rule strikes again

- You must be at least 3% smarter than the object you are trying to use.

Based on this you shouldn't ever touch a tool again...
Dayum!
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Originally Posted by Kwame@z1
Dayum!
Ouchhhhh, like I said I was a dumbass on this one, because my driveway does have a slight slant, didnt think it was that bad. Got to give you credit tho that was a good burn and funny.
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Sorry Kwame@z1, meant that last comment for WTX350Z

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Old 09-12-2008, 06:51 AM
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I tipped my Volvo off the scissor jack a few times even with the wheels chocked. I guess in the summer heat my driveway gets soft.
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