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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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I just bought a set of bridgestone potenza re0960 pole position AS in the 245/40/18 for the back of my Z and I feel like these tires tend to "float" ( like wind blowing you car side to side; loose back-end) and NOT like grounded like the OEM potenza re040 when driven at high speeds in excess of 100mph.

Anyone feel the same way with any new tires?

Is it a bad tire? or is a trait of high performance All Season?

Would wider tires help? I live in the snowbelt region so i need all seasons. Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks.

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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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gotta drive them a couple hundred miles to break them in and let the mold release disappear.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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Are they filled with nitrogen? Maybe that's why they are floating.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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the shop might have put helium instead of N2
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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It sounds like you only replaced the rears, right? It's not uncommon when mixing tires to have the car handle and feel strange as different tires will have different characteristics.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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They feel a little “wiggly” and you feel like they are slippery. Right?

No worries here since that always is the case with new tires. You need to “burn-off” the grease and "wear-in" the tread. Just drive them for a few hours on the expressway, and they will feel much better.

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Originally Posted by superz2004
I just bought a set of bridgestone potenza re0960 pole position AS in the 245/40/18 for the back of my Z and I feel like these tires tend to "float" ( like wind blowing you car side to side; loose back-end) and NOT like grounded like the OEM potenza re040 when driven at high speeds in excess of 100mph.

Anyone feel the same way with any new tires?

Is it a bad tire? or is a trait of high performance All Season?

Would wider tires help? I live in the snowbelt region so i need all seasons. Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks.

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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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You also have to consider the fact that you're replacing an "Ultra High Performance Summer" tire with an "Ultra High Performance All-Season" tire. They're definitely going to exhibit different driving characteristics. But as mentioned previously, drive them a couple hundred miles before passing final judgment. They were great on my old STI...the best all-seasons I've driven on.

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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 03:12 AM
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Thanks everyone for the input!
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 03:29 AM
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Do you still have the stock size tires up front??? If so , its normal when the take the stagger in tire height away. My suggestion is, take you new rear tires and mount them up front , then buy the proper height (245/45-18) for the rear. All will be good then.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by superz2004
I just bought a set of bridgestone potenza re0960 pole position AS in the 245/40/18 for the back of my Z and I feel like these tires tend to "float" ( like wind blowing you car side to side; loose back-end) and NOT like grounded like the OEM potenza re040 when driven at high speeds in excess of 100mph.

Anyone feel the same way with any new tires?

Is it a bad tire? or is a trait of high performance All Season?

Would wider tires help? I live in the snowbelt region so i need all seasons. Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks.

just a thought, but maybe you should not drive at speeds of 100mph since it is obvious you do not know how to control your car when doing so
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 07:01 AM
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^^agreed
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 10:58 AM
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I just bought the same exact tires for my rears last week and I had the same problem but Spike100 pretty much hit the nail on the head. Just ride around for alittle and you'll get a better response....
And yea the re0960s arent as good as the re040s but for the price im not complainin theyre still great tires
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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Is there really people out there that get new tires and immediately start traveling 100+ miles per hour on public roads? That gets a tick on the ol' doucheometer. How about making sure your car is handling okay at normal speeds before that? Or maybe don't break the law, there's always that option. Aw *** it, you're in Kentucky. Who gives a shiet.

I would suggest doing as the others have pointed out, drive on them and let the tires wear to promote proper adhesion with the road.

I also agree with Terrasmak, I believe he listed the correct size of the tires you should have purchased.
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 02:18 AM
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Hahaha some of you guys in this forum are funny and sarcastic! I can dig that.

The tire size. I missed typed. It is 245/45/18.

As for 100mph? Of course I didnt ragged on it right away. I did let it burn in a little. I have to agree with the post saying its the characteristics of 2 different sets of tires. I should of bought the whole set. But you all 350z owners should now tires aint cheap and our Zs eat up back tires like a *****!

If anyone who has something to say about excess of 100mph and breaking the law... and you havent? Who buys a Z and drives it like your granny? haha

I am enjoying the post though. thanks guys!
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by superz2004
Hahaha some of you guys in this forum are funny and sarcastic! I can dig that.

The tire size. I missed typed. It is 245/45/18.

As for 100mph? Of course I didnt ragged on it right away. I did let it burn in a little. I have to agree with the post saying its the characteristics of 2 different sets of tires. I should of bought the whole set. But you all 350z owners should now tires aint cheap and our Zs eat up back tires like a *****!

If anyone who has something to say about excess of 100mph and breaking the law... and you havent? Who buys a Z and drives it like your granny? haha

I am enjoying the post though. thanks guys!

there is a difference with spirited driving and driving like an idiot. doing 100+ on public streets falls into the latter category. good luck and hope you dont kill anyone else with your stupidity
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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You can mix different brands of tires front-to-rear. I’ve done this without any problems. However, there are some important considerations when you do this:
  • When mixing different brands of tire, remain within the same classification for all four tires (e.g., don’t mix summer-performance tires with all-season tires since that marriage could be very bad).

  • It’s wise to maintain at least a 20mm width-stagger front-to-rear when mixing tire brands on your Z. This way you will have at least some under-steer and probably never go past neutral-steer. If you mount the same width tires and have different brands on the front and rear, the result could be a car that over-steers. That could be trouble for even experienced drivers.

  • Try to keep within a reasonable sidewall stiffness factor front-to-rear. Soft sidewalls mixed with stiff sidewall makes the car feel “wiggly.” You can mix soft and stiff sidewalls safely as long as you stay within the 20mm width-stagger. Worst case scenario is very stiff backs with soft fronts since this tends to over-steer.

  • Don’t mix brands of studless snow tires, and never run performance snow tires with studless snow tires. Your best arrangement with studless snow tires is to go all-square (225/55-17’ all around) and rotate the tires so they wear at the same rate. 225/55-17” works fine with even the most “fussy” VDC on a Z.

  • And… Don’t go 100mph when testing your new mixed setup. At least until you have a few hours on the tires.
I’m sure that there are some other points that I don’t have in the list that someone else will point out.

--Spike

Originally Posted by superz2004
Hahaha some of you guys in this forum are funny and sarcastic! I can dig that.

The tire size. I missed typed. It is 245/45/18.

As for 100mph? Of course I didnt ragged on it right away. I did let it burn in a little. I have to agree with the post saying its the characteristics of 2 different sets of tires. I should of bought the whole set. But you all 350z owners should now tires aint cheap and our Zs eat up back tires like a *****!

If anyone who has something to say about excess of 100mph and breaking the law... and you havent? Who buys a Z and drives it like your granny? haha

I am enjoying the post though. thanks guys!
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