I have an opportunity to pick up some new wheels. The tires on them are Toyo up front and Bridestone on the rears.

Is this an issue? Or will it be fine?

Thanks for the help.

 

you are fine. I did it with pretty much all my setups

 

you'll be fine. as long as they are the same tires up front and in the back.

 

You mention the brand of tire, but you don’t mention the model /type of tire.

If the tires are in the same class (i.e., summer performance tires), you will be OK with mixing brands.

In the case you mention: “The tires on them are Toyo up front and Bridestone on the rears.”

The Toyo’s will feel softer (more sidewall flex) than the Bridgestone’s. But, in your example, the softer sidewall tires (Toyo’s) on the front with stiffer tires (Bridgestone’s) on the rear should work well. That setup will result in a little more under-steer, but that’s OK and safe.

--Spike

 

Sorry about that. 225/40/19 toyo t1r up front and 255/40/19 bridgestone re05 in back.

Thanks.

 

No problem. That setup will work with no problem whatsoever.

All you will notice is a little more under-steer, and that will most be a "feel-thing" on a softer sidewall since Toyo tr's "grip like crazy."

--Spike

 

Great Thanks for the help Spike and everyone else that replied.

 

I made a similar thread a while back and got similar responses. When I tried to order from tire rack they called to confirm my order as usual and the guy pretty much talked me out if it saying that it will cause unpredictable steering. I've mixed before and everything seemed fine, so any idea why he talked me out of a purchase?

 

^^ If you’re in the business of selling tires, selling 4 tires is twice as good as selling just 2 tires.

But, making a more fair statement: 4 tires all the same (type and manufacturer) provides a more predictable result than mixing different brands front to rear. It's sensible for TireRack to take this approach.

--Spike

 

Mixing Tires on Vehicles

 

^^ Neal,

Thanks for the direction and posting the link to that very informative article. In fact, the article says pretty much what has been advised on this (and other threads) here.

Of course it’s wise to same within the same class of tire (i.e., run summer performance tires all around when using tires from different manufacturers). However, there is some confusion on classification of tires since individual manufacturers label summer performance tires differently (e.g., maximum summer performance tires, ultra summer performance tires, etc.).

My experience when mixing tires from different manufacturers is to stay within the summer performance tire classification, and ignore the “ultra,” “maximum,” etc. prefix. Instead the buyer should try to match-up two characteristics in the summer performance tires:

• Sidewall stiffness
• Tread design (mostly for wet grip performance)

Mixing dramatically different sidewall stiffness or tread designs that provide good and poor wet grip definitely result in quirky handling

In my experience:

• Pirelli and Bridgestone summer performance tires have stiff sidewalls.
• Toyo and Goodyear summer performance tires have soft side walls.
• Michelin summer performance tires are amazing because they are fairly soft but feel stiff.

If I did mix different brands of summer performance tires (front to rear), I would definitely have Michelin PS2’s as one of the pair. This tire is truly phenomenal because it’s sidewall is just stiff enough to coexist with either stiff or soft sidewall counterparts, and it’s wet grip will blend well with just about any summer performance tire.

Of course my points are very arguable. I would like to hear your opinion or thoughts from other members.

--Spike

 

I mix tires. Its just takes a couple of hundred miles to figure out what the new combination can and cannot do.

 

^^ That is very good advice. You are wise.

Tire manufacturers certainly won’t test their tires in a mixed setup with competitor’s tires, so that means tire retail sellers are confined to recommending the same tires “all around.” And, the buyer is pretty much stuck with doing the test in this case.

As you say…
…is what you need to do. It won’t be disaster is you stay within the tire’s class (i.e., summer performance tires).

Worst case is you have a setup that you will replace as soon as one pair is worn out.

I’ve had good results when mixing tires from different manufacturer’s as long as I stayed within the same class of tire on all corners.

--Spike

 

Since the tire experts seem to be on here I just picked up new rims....

Gramlight 57S-Pro 19x9 0mm offset

Gramlight 57S-Pro 19x10 -15mm offset

Soo I have been doing my research and I have come down to the determination I need 245/35/19 front and 275/35/19 rear

My question is for that particular size what would give me a good tread wear and good wet handling performance??? I have gforce tires on the 18's I run now and i just dont feel confident in there wet handling.

I wont be tracking or anything with these rims just spirited and sometimes aggressive road driving.

 

I was buying 4, 2 different pairs.

 

https://www.onlinetires.com/products...628/10630.html

Any body have experience with Hankooks?? All the reviews I can find are good. Pretty decent treadwear rating, and speed rating. The link is to the best price i found for them. They average in the 225/175 range for the sizes I need.

 

Barnabas - w/ those offsets and a nice drop won't you have some crazy negative camber?if so, tread wear will be uneven. Just get cheapy tires like the hankooks cuz you're gonna be replacing them fast.

 

The negative camber wont be too bad Ill be running BC racing coils with the shorter springs and Cusco front A arms, Eibach rear camber kit, and powergrid endlinks. It will keep the camber in check but no it wont be zero.

 

Yes, I got that. I was mentioning the mix (front and rear) since that is what you said you wanted to do.

--Spike