+12 versus +22 19x10.5 TE37?
Why tool a completely different wheel, when you can make a bunch of +12's, then turn 10mm off the rotor hat to get a +22?
These pics of Crom's illustrate the different rotor hat thicknesses. Look at the lug nuts... notice how sunk in they are in this pic? This is the thick rotor hat of the +12 on the rear 10.5
Now notice how far they stick out in this pic? This is a thinner rotor hat of a +12 9.5
Now, let's look at my TE37's... I went out an measured concavity by taking a piece of cardboard with a straight-edge, and placing on the high points of the spokes. Then, I took a tape measure and got readings from edge of cardboard to the top of my center caps.
I have 19x10.5 +22 rear...
19x8.5 +22 front...
Roughly a quarter inch difference in concavity... hardly noticeable. But, huge difference in lip size.
Now my rotor hats... I didn't take measurements, but you can see the lug nuts on my rears...
...stick out further than my fronts...
Meaning for me, I have thicker rotor hats in the front (and better clearance for BBK).
So, to sum up:
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I was wondering if someone would answer my question !!!
This is a more then complete answer gr8scott
You are the man thank you for taking all this time to come up with something this good
This is a more then complete answer gr8scott
You are the man thank you for taking all this time to come up with something this good
That is... I made some assumptions... someone want to go measure their 9.5's, I will gladly stand corrected.
And I would LOVE 2 9.5s in matte gunmetal if anyone has them, have a post up in the WTB section (https://my350z.com/forum/wanted/4503...tal-te37s.html)
And I would LOVE 2 9.5s in matte gunmetal if anyone has them, have a post up in the WTB section (https://my350z.com/forum/wanted/4503...tal-te37s.html)
Thanks bro...but sorry to say though that I took the spacers off this morning since it rubbed a lot. Not sure why since my fenders are cut but I guess since my alignment was set back to stock it pushed the wheels out a lot. Trying to see if I want to roll the fenders (which is already cut and resealed) so....

Also what type/brand of spacers did you use? Thanks!
I'm curious to find this out as well. If the +12 guys could comment on running 275 vs 285. I think Crom was switching to 275s due to rubbing with 285s on his +12 TEs but got aligned and cambered. Anyone care to comment on max tire size out back with +12s?
Last edited by stradaONE8; Dec 14, 2009 at 11:57 PM.
depends on your drop and tire brand as well.... ex - T1r's blow for traction but they tend to have a nice curved sidewall. Alot of other 285's are more squarish in design. At some point it becomes counter intuitive to run a 285 or higher w/ a -3.5 camber or greater...you could do it, but does it make sense for traction ? - no.
hi can anyone tell me this front wheel specs? and tyre size? and tyre type? because i found it fits very well, and the stretching is perfect, not too much and less, because im getting one for my self soon? thanks
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