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+12 versus +22 19x10.5 TE37?

Old Sep 1, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Chebosto
no. i dunno yet if i wanna keep the orange. or paint it Diamond black like my CEs...
What don't you like about the orange?
Old Sep 1, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Chebosto
no. i dunno yet if i wanna keep the orange. or paint it Diamond black like my CEs...
Leave the barrel orange
Old Sep 1, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 35th SS
If the lip is the same in the back from +12 to +22 where did the 10 mm go ?? does it mean +12 will be 10 mm more concave ?
My guess is, the extra 10mm on the +12 went into a rotor hat that is thicker by 10mm. Or, a better way to say it is, the 10mm disappeared off the +22 by having a thinner rotor hat.

Why tool a completely different wheel, when you can make a bunch of +12's, then turn 10mm off the rotor hat to get a +22?

These pics of Crom's illustrate the different rotor hat thicknesses. Look at the lug nuts... notice how sunk in they are in this pic? This is the thick rotor hat of the +12 on the rear 10.5
Originally Posted by Crom
Now notice how far they stick out in this pic? This is a thinner rotor hat of a +12 9.5
Originally Posted by Crom
Now, let's look at my TE37's... I went out an measured concavity by taking a piece of cardboard with a straight-edge, and placing on the high points of the spokes. Then, I took a tape measure and got readings from edge of cardboard to the top of my center caps.

I have 19x10.5 +22 rear...




19x8.5 +22 front...





Roughly a quarter inch difference in concavity... hardly noticeable. But, huge difference in lip size.

Now my rotor hats... I didn't take measurements, but you can see the lug nuts on my rears...



...stick out further than my fronts...



Meaning for me, I have thicker rotor hats in the front (and better clearance for BBK).

So, to sum up:

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</td> <td class="xl27" style="border-left: medium none; width: 31pt;" width="41">Offset</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td><td class="xl27" style="border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" width="82">Rotor Hat</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td><td class="xl27" style="border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" width="82">Concavity</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td><td class="xl27" style="border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" width="82">Lip</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">19x9.5</td> <td class="xl28" style="border-top: medium none;" x:str="'+22">+22</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td><td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">thick</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td><td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">shallow</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td><td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">thin</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl26" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">
</td> <td class="xl28" style="border-top: medium none;" x:str="'+12">+12</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td><td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">thin</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td><td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">deep</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td><td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">thick</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">19x10.5</td> <td class="xl28" style="border-top: medium none;" x:str="'+22">+22</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td><td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">thin</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td><td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">deep</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td><td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">thick</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl25" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">
</td> <td class="xl28" style="border-top: medium none;" x:str="'+12">+12</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td><td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">thick</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td><td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">deep</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td><td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">thick</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">
</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
Old Sep 2, 2009 | 05:19 AM
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I was wondering if someone would answer my question !!!

This is a more then complete answer gr8scott You are the man thank you for taking all this time to come up with something this good
Old Sep 2, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 35th SS
I was wondering if someone would answer my question !!!

This is a more then complete answer gr8scott You are the man thank you for taking all this time to come up with something this good
Glad to help.
Old Sep 2, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by gr8scott_o
Glad to help.
Your post says you are running a 19x8.5 +22. Is that correct?
Old Sep 2, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwame@z1Auto
Your post says you are running a 19x8.5 +22. Is that correct?
That is... I made some assumptions... someone want to go measure their 9.5's, I will gladly stand corrected.

And I would LOVE 2 9.5s in matte gunmetal if anyone has them, have a post up in the WTB section (https://my350z.com/forum/wanted/4503...tal-te37s.html)
Old Dec 11, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by AlvinHuyN
Thanks bro...but sorry to say though that I took the spacers off this morning since it rubbed a lot. Not sure why since my fenders are cut but I guess since my alignment was set back to stock it pushed the wheels out a lot. Trying to see if I want to roll the fenders (which is already cut and resealed) so....
Hey Alvin - you mentioned that you were rubbing with the 10mm spacers (i.e. +12 offset) but your fenders were already cut. What size tires did you have? I'm thinking about doing the same thing (expect with CE28's) and have my fenders rolled and am within OEM camber specs, so I too am concerned about rubbing.

Also what type/brand of spacers did you use? Thanks!
Old Dec 14, 2009 | 11:55 PM
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I'm curious to find this out as well. If the +12 guys could comment on running 275 vs 285. I think Crom was switching to 275s due to rubbing with 285s on his +12 TEs but got aligned and cambered. Anyone care to comment on max tire size out back with +12s?

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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 02:22 AM
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just roll fenders with a slight pull - no rub on my part.
its not too hard, especially with swang n bang rolling with negative offsets.
Old Dec 15, 2009 | 08:37 AM
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depends on your drop and tire brand as well.... ex - T1r's blow for traction but they tend to have a nice curved sidewall. Alot of other 285's are more squarish in design. At some point it becomes counter intuitive to run a 285 or higher w/ a -3.5 camber or greater...you could do it, but does it make sense for traction ? - no.
Old Dec 18, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Crom
Hopefully these pics help -... +12 mounted vs. +22's... Slightly more concave in front. The rear is almost identical if not identical minus the offset. The rear lip is the same size as well...BTW.. the +22's are BNIB for sale. ( sorry for the shameless plug ).



hi can anyone tell me this front wheel specs? and tyre size? and tyre type? because i found it fits very well, and the stretching is perfect, not too much and less, because im getting one for my self soon? thanks
Old Sep 29, 2010 | 08:56 AM
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From a looks perspective, still trying to determine which is the best fitment.
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by drebin893
From a looks perspective, still trying to determine which is the best fitment.
19x9.5 +12 front
19x10.5 +12 rear

End of story.
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