bnag0

So i am doing research on some wheels for the track and wanted to know everyone's opinion on staggerd vs non-staggerd. I know this is more of a driver preference rather than one being better than the other. This is strictly a performance question, the look of the wheel is not a variable in this question.

As far as i know...
Staggerd = Understeer More Traction?
Non-Staggerd = Balance Less Traction?

I can't see how staggerd vs non-staggerd would make all that much of a difference unless you were really driving hard or comparing very different sizes but this is why i am asking...

Spike100

What sizes are you thinking about? It does make a difference.

--Spike

terrasmak

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Well after driving staggered on the track for a while and now running a nonstaggered setup 275/40-17's , i really have to say non staggered all the way. The front end grip is awsome, diving into the corner hot is crazy, the mid corner grip is amaizing and the corner exit grip is great.

The only prob i have is ABS, my ABS hates it. Even with VDC turned off i still got slip, ABS, VDC and brake lights. No ABS on the track is kinda hairy, but i managed.

BonesZ33

iTrader: (2)

i believe overall tire diameter throws off the VDC, not the width

BakaN20

iTrader: (26)

https://my350z.com/forum/wheels-and-...staggered.html

https://my350z.com/forum/wheels-and-...ed-set-up.html

https://my350z.com/forum/wheels-and-...vs-square.html

https://my350z.com/forum/wheels-and-...r-corners.html

https://my350z.com/forum/wheels-and-...el-set-up.html

bnag0

I plan on staying N/A
I have been looking into these...
Enkei RPF1's 17x9.5 +18 all around
Enkei RPF1's 17x9.0 +22 all around
Buddy Club P1 SF 17x9.0 +15 all around
Buddy Club P1 SF 17x9.0 +28 all around

I plan on running the buddy club Racing spec coils and i am pretty sure i am going to run into some rubbing issues with some of these choices unless i do some fender rolling and some camber adjustments but trying to avoid that.

As far as tires go i have not done all the research yet.

terrasmak

iTrader: (8)

That is correct, and why i have problems. My front and rear tires are the same height.

bnag0

So even if i go with (4) identical wheels i still have to have (2) different tire sizes front and rear....

Sorry for bringing this up AGAIN but a lot of the threads ive read are kind of unclear and everyone has very different opinions but also have very different set ups which is why i decided to start my own thread to really narrow it down.

scotts300

iTrader: (46)

So why not run some higher offsets with big tires? Think about 17x10 +25s all around, 17x9.5 +~35, etc. I used to run both of those with 275 tires. Shameless plug: If you're ready for some Hoosiers, I have a full set of 275/40/17 x 4 for sale.

terrasmak

iTrader: (8)

Yes, but plenty of us don't, especially for the track. On the track i run 17x9+17 front and +7 rear with 275/40-17's all around. Yes you should
have VDC/TCS issues but its turned off , and you may have ABS issues. If you want to get rid of the issues you can run a 255/40 front and 275/40 rear or 275/40 front and depending on tire brand 285 or 295/40 rear.

bnag0

[QUOTE=scotts300;8317286]So why not run some higher offsets with big tires? Think about 17x10 +25s all aroundQUOTE]

This is the other thing im not sure of... What is the best width if i were to go with same widths all around? And why would this be? There are n/a people running 10.5"... the wider the wheel the heavier and more expensive it is but also more traction.. Where is the sweet spot on an n/a 350?

davidv

iTrader: (2)

OK I have to ask. Do you own a 350Z?

bnag0

No i do not own a 350 yet. Just doing a bunch of research while i shop for one.

davidv

iTrader: (2)

lol. Kind of figured that by the questions. Good questions but most answers will be obvious after you drive the Z.

bnag0

I agree, just making a list of things to think about after my purchase

Its not getting any shorter :P

But with the information i have gotten lately i am going with the enkei 17x10 or 9.5 all around i just need to do more research on tires now.

Thanks for the feed back everyone!

DavesZ#3

iTrader: (26)

Look at it this way - if it didn't make a difference even in everyday driving, do you think manufacturers would setup cars that way coming out of the factory?

bnag0

Reading this post makes my question sound pretty "nubish" i must say lol. I guess i should have asked what people prefer.

Thanks for your opinion

DavesZ#3

iTrader: (26)

For the most part, most people won't notice that they even have understeer. It may help to keep them out of trouble some day but they will never realize it.

If you do pursue "motorsports" in the Z, then understeer will be something you'll quickly learn about. It has it's advantages, especially when learning. When autocrossing, it took me a while to appreciate the adage "enter slow - exit fast". I was regularly plowing down cones because I tried to enter a turn too fast. Once I subscribed to that mantra, I tamed that beast and was ready to move on to a non-staggered setup.

My track setup is non-staggered and as most experienced drivers will tell you there's no other way to do it. It makes the Z well balanced and with the right tires, very predictable.

Hexxus

iTrader: (22)

I prefer staggered over staggerd.

Spike100

I guess we all knew what he meant to say, but nobody until your message mentions the misspelling.

--Spike