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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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https://my350z.com/forum/wheels-and-...ed-a-volk.html

Click that link.

If I had Volks/Works and that happened....I would be beyond fukking pissed. If I did that with my Varrstoen...I wouldn't really care that much because the rim is only worth $300-$350 anyways. It's common fukking sense.

Here's an example...

Say I have a EG hatchback and my Z. I drive my EG to work and get rear ended. Sure I would be kind of upset, but not really. It's fixable, no biggie.
I drive my 350z to work...get rear ended...I'm fukking pissed because my GOOD car was in an accident. Sure it's FIXABLE, but I will still be really pissed that somebody hit me.

Do you understand now?
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PikeZ 350, you're just comparing the replacemnet cost of expensive wheels to replicas, totally off subject. I still want to know (from you) why VARS. wheels are better then Enkei.

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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by huyrua
PikeZ 350, you're just comparing the replacemnet cost of expensive wheels to replicas, totally off subject. I still want to know (from you) why VARS. wheels are better then Enkei.
Haha never have I said that Vars. wheels are BETTER than Enkei....I just said to BUY the Varrstoen. I said that because I'm not a fan of the RPF1's...I guess everyone assumed that I thought Varrstoen was a better company than Enkei? Enkei is DEFINITELY a better company...look at their history.
Old Jul 7, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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don't even have to think about this one

rpf1 for sure, i'm thinking about getting a set soon
Old Jul 7, 2010 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by PikeZ_350
Haha never have I said that Vars. wheels are BETTER than Enkei....I just said to BUY the Varrstoen. I said that because I'm not a fan of the RPF1's...I guess everyone assumed that I thought Varrstoen was a better company than Enkei? Enkei is DEFINITELY a better company...look at their history.
-You are debating about rims/tires on 2 different threads...must be exhausting.

-Varrstoen repubility is a neverending agrument, don't get carpal tunnel about it.

-OP apparently found his answer. /thread

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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by huyrua
PikeZ 350, you're just comparing the replacemnet cost of expensive wheels to replicas, totally off subject. I still want to know (from you) why VARS. wheels are better then Enkei.

Because dude, Varrstoen uses CAT technology to cast wheels.

Old Jul 7, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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Because dude, Varrstoen uses CAT technology to cast wheels.

Hahahaha
I wonder what the story is with that picture, cant be good lol.
Old Jul 7, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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LOL at CAT forged.
Old Jul 7, 2010 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by scotts300
What, exactly, is hell? Heavy-*** cast wheels are typically strong because they are so damn thick. Enjoy those boat anchors at each hub of your car.
You do know that RPF1's are cast wheels also?
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Originally Posted by PikeZ_350
OP...


Buy what YOU want. Don't worry about what everyone else thinks. Take their advice and opinions...but don't let their opinions be your final decision. I was planning on buying a set of gold Work Meisters, but one day decided that I didn't want to spend several grand on wheels, without tires. Why? Because I knew if I curbed/damaged ONE of those wheels, I'd be beyond ****ing pissed and would have to wait several months for another one to get here from Japan. I also knew that it would take several months for the wheels to get here from overseas. I HAD the money to buy the Works. I'm happy with my Varrstoens, and will not mind shelling out $300-$350 for a rim if I mess one up.
By the same token, if you have expensive stuff, you may be more apt to take care of it better in the first place. I know I do.

I've had expensive wheels on my Z33 for 3.5 years now. I have never come close to kissing a curb (heck, even in my daily I am beyond **** about not wrecking stuff because I don't want to get charged when it comes time to turn the car in at the end of the lease). I watch the roads I drive on, and if I know they are rough, I simple avoid them altogether,or I drive in such a way as to ensure nothing happens.

With respect to the various replica companies, the risk you take is if you do damage one and you do need to replace it, will they even be around?

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Oh God....another Varrstoen vs ..... thread?
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Originally Posted by CrillZ
You do know that RPF1's are cast wheels also?

Yes... im pretty sure he does

The point he is making is not that they are cast vs cast (Although to get technical, RPF01's use a much better casting method (MAT, not CAT) to cast their wheels, which also have Forged centers unlike other cast wheels), but that the weight difference and wheel integrity is substantially different between the two.

Whether they are cast or not, point is that they are about 7lbs. lighter per wheel than the Varrstoens, and if you know about rotational mass in this instance, you know that 7lbs per wheel is a HELL of big deal.

IMHO, very few, if any, cast wheels out there will even compare performance wise to the RPF01 in strength, weight, manufacturing process and company.

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Quick update guys!

I wanted to buy a Gallardo, but get this, because i'm a stud, I bought a Fierro and made it look like a Gallardo! Now I figure that if somehow I got rear ended in the real thing, I would be pissed, but because its a cheap chit fake @$$ lame car, im not going to care, well lets be honest yes I will. But thats beside the point! Everyone thinks i've got a cool car though. I love posing!

Come on, why is it that whenever someone rices out their car there is a ridiculous excuse of what ifs and buts and etc? What if I flip my car on the freeway tomorrow, my Volks would be toast and my 4 day old HKS titanium exhaust would be gone. So what? I bought a new sports car and want to add performance to it not deminish it.

We should /Thread. The OP chose wisely on getting performance based wheels and not ghetto fakes. Now post some pics OP!
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Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep
Quick update guys!

I wanted to buy a Gallardo, but get this, because i'm a stud, I bought a Fierro and made it look like a Gallardo! Now I figure that if somehow I got rear ended in the real thing, I would be pissed, but because its a cheap chit fake @$$ lame car, im not going to care, well lets be honest yes I will. But thats beside the point! Everyone thinks i've got a cool car though. I love posing!
Because that is exactly the same scenario we are talking about here right? Horrible example. You can't compare Volks to Varrs like a Lamborghini to a Fierro. Just doesn't work that way.


You are all missing the point, no one is saying the Varrs are better than the Volks or Enkei, no one is saying they are stronger, no one is saying they are lighter. Then why the **** do you guys care so much? Is it your car? Your money? No, then foff. Let the owner do what he wants. Just give your opinion and stop bashing non stop about calling him a ricer *** cheap chit fake @$$ lame owner because that is immature and incredibly lame.
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forget all that and go https://my350z.com/forum/norcal-mark...ll-around.html

Old Jul 7, 2010 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
By the same token, if you have expensive stuff, you may be more apt to take care of it better in the first place. I know I do.


Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep
Hahahaha
I wonder what the story is with that picture, cant be good lol.
LOL. I like to know too...

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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 02:36 PM
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Because that is exactly the same scenario we are talking about here right? Horrible example. You can't compare Volks to Varrs like a Lamborghini to a Fierro. Just doesn't work that way.


You are all missing the point, no one is saying the Varrs are better than the Volks or Enkei, no one is saying they are stronger, no one is saying they are lighter. Then why the **** do you guys care so much? Is it your car? Your money? No, then foff. Let the owner do what he wants. Just give your opinion and stop bashing non stop about calling him a ricer *** cheap chit fake @$$ lame owner because that is immature and incredibly lame.

Actually, it is exacty the same. There is a something that is exclusive, performance oriented, expensive, etc. Then there is something that is a basic copy that has horrible performance, poorly made compared to the original, costs a fraction of the original price because its completely unoriginal and a joke in the automotive world. It works exactly that way. The Fierro is a rip off of the real car, the fake wheel is the same exact thing.

Think about this, why would you pay money to hurt the performance of your sports car? Because you think it "looks cool." Thats just dumb. Maybe you have a bunch of stickers on your car too I dont know. Either you dont want to accept it or you're in denial.
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Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep
Actually, it is exacty the same. There is a something that is exclusive, performance oriented, expensive, etc. Then there is something that is a basic copy that has horrible performance, poorly made compared to the original, costs a fraction of the original price because its completely unoriginal and a joke in the automotive world. It works exactly that way. The Fierro is a rip off of the real car, the fake wheel is the same exact thing.

Think about this, why would you pay money to hurt the performance of your sports car? Because you think it "looks cool." Thats just dumb. Maybe you have a bunch of stickers on your car too I dont know. Either you dont want to accept it or you're in denial.
You really like to argue huh? Damn. People don't track their cars, they might a nice looking wheel that fits good and is good enough for them. It doesn't need to be a $4000 set to be "cool". The TE is a very famous wheel, a lot of people want that look but can't afford or WANT to put that much money into wheels. Rota's copy a lot of wheels to, why don't you **** on their wheels too? Why is it just this specific wheel? Is it because it looks effin identical? Because it is 1/4 the price of the real deal? Is it because it comes in the same offsets and even more aggressive than the real volks?


Fierro and Lamborghini isn't like Varrs and Volks. Fierro doesn't have the speed, the identical looks, the same interior, the same engine, transmission, tires, etc. That I can understand is plain half-*** silly to think they are the same. But what if you can't afford a lamborghini and weren't going to drive it. What if you just wanted a model car sitting in your garage. Would you need that V10? Those paddle shifters? The expensive *** lamborghini who a shitload of people can't afford? Or would you make a replica just to have it in your garage that LOOKS identical from the exterior, sure it may have some blemishes and some different items, but it's close enough.

That's the same with the Varrs, people don't need a 21lb wheel, they don't track to worry about cast not holding up cause they should of spent $4000 on forged wheels. If you are a brand ***** and have to have a Volk, go for it, no one is stopping you. But others who can't afford it and want a similar identical design, shouldn't be shitted on, cause that is ********. You think Varrs are the only replicas made? HAH! There is a replica for almost every damn aftermarket part of the Z.

Stock wheels are 25-26lbs, so 27.5lbs for 10.5" wheel and 26.5lbs for the 9.5" wheel is nothing that is going to affect your car to make it feel "heavy, and chitty, and ghetto, and blah blah blah". Just get over the ****ing fact they are reps, they are just wheels.


Happy now? Made me rant for 30 minutes.
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Thanks to this thread I love my rpf1s even more
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Originally Posted by ttuberz
Thanks to this thread I love my rpf1s even more
Oh hey buddy! I was wondering when you would post. Long time no see.



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