Fatlace article on fake wheels...
10-05-2010, 06:36 PM
#82
You make some very good points, and ones that are very true when it comes to the down side of nice wheels. No argument here, just wanna show how i address these issues:
Good shop here in town works with these wheels daily. No worries whatsoever and guarenteed blemish free after service. They specialize in high end wheels, and for near the same price as any other shop.
They dont get messed up by weather. I dont use the wrong type of cleaners, just soap and water which saves money on wheel cleaner i guess. Easy.
I would tell her she's doing it wrong. Cute or not, im sure she would understand you showing her the correct way.
Wheel locks. Easy. Im actually more worried about whats inside my car than whats on the outside, besides my paint and the douche that likes to damage what he cant have. Moreover, like just about anything in life, you could worry yourself to death over just about anything. This is no different. Just have to learn that you can only do so much to avoid it. I would park just as anally even if i had cheaper wheels.
I dont Valet....EVER. Again, i'm more worried about whats inside then them curbing my wheels. In fact, sometimes i actually PAY to park my own car in the valet area just because i know valet area is up front and constantly being watched. I even tip.
Like i said, very good points. It is def much easier to own a cheaper set of wheels...but for me, paying 1k for some wheels to settle = me not loving what i purchased and therefore me end up not caring as much about them eventually = why i buy them in the first place? For me, the rewards outweigh the extra effort involved. But as Z1 said, it all depends on what you want to spend your money on, and why you are modding your car in the first place.
Like i said, very good points. It is def much easier to own a cheaper set of wheels...but for me, paying 1k for some wheels to settle = me not loving what i purchased and therefore me end up not caring as much about them eventually = why i buy them in the first place? For me, the rewards outweigh the extra effort involved. But as Z1 said, it all depends on what you want to spend your money on, and why you are modding your car in the first place.
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10-05-2010, 06:57 PM
#85
...but for me, paying 1k for some wheels to settle = me not loving what i purchased and therefore me end up not caring as much about them eventually = why i buy them in the first place? For me, the rewards outweigh the extra effort involved. But as Z1 said, it all depends on what you want to spend your money on, and why you are modding your car in the first place.
How many times do you see "I really want Volks or Works but i cant afford them so im getting Rotas or Varrs." ... I see it daily.
Last edited by GeauxLadyZ; 10-05-2010 at 07:04 PM.
10-05-2010, 08:53 PM
#87
I dont agree with people buying fake wheels and on top of that making themselves believe they are the real thing. i understand not all of us have the money to spend on brand wheels but if you buy fake wheels it just looks stupid to put real stickers or think/believe you have the real Volks or whatever the case is. I myself don't own Work wheels but if i did and someone parked beside me with some fake ones and tells me they got the same wheels as me or the real thing i would be pissed specially because most of the people that go to the meets and stuff dont know what you have and they will think they are both the same and only those who know the real thing will know the difference. In a way i am glad i don't have Work wheels.
10-05-2010, 09:20 PM
#89
Everything is copied to some extent, get over it. Some copy and improve on the design (palm, blackberry , Iphone, andriod ) some just copy and make it cheaper. Does it matter if Invicta has a Rolex knock off for $100 , than Walmart has a generic knock off for $15. The peron buying the $15 watch isn't in the market for the $100 version, the person buying the $100 version isn't in the market for the $5k one. Just like XXR wheel, then Rota/Varr then Volk.
Levis made the original jeans, do you wear something other than Levis?
Levis made the original jeans, do you wear something other than Levis?
rep·li·ca
[rep-li-kuh]
–noun
1.a copy or reproduction of a work of art produced by the maker of the original or under his or her supervision.
2.any close or exact copy or reproduction.
Invicta
Rolex
Ok guy... You cant put a sticker on the Invicta and say you have a Rolex, you can't change the Japanese movement to a Swiss movement. Though the look very very similar, the Invicta is NOT a replica or a Knock off as you like to call it... its simply an Invicta so you have the "look" your trying to attain but at no point can you Pose that you own a Rolly. I cant show you an Invicta and say "hey like my Rolly?" but I can show you a set of Varrs with Volk stickers and say " Like my new TE's?" Thats the difference here.
That is a Varrosteon Wheel...
That is a TE37(weak offset but you get the point).. Now if someone removes the "Volk" sticker from his TE's and put them side to side with a Varrs it would be very very difficult to discern them.. why? Because THEY ARE AN EXACT REPLICA. Only guys that are very good can recognize an Authentic TE to a Replica Varrs. I can't personally but I can recognize a Replica LM from my authentic set.
If the Varrs came with something that could differentiate themselves from the TE's I think this would be less of an issue. If they engraved "Varrstoen" in a similar fashion that 19 TE's have "forged" it would be a little more respectable in my opinion. B/c at that point you've tried separating themselves from Volk and have established that they are NOT Volks.
Now for the guys who get but hurt that own a set of Varrs and tell us(being the ones who have Authentic wheels) that we are Aholes for hating on you... dont say that you "prefer" getting the Varrs b/c thats what you "like" b/c if you had a choice you wouldnt have bought them. I understand that people cant afford expensive wheels but don't pose them as originals.
10-05-2010, 10:48 PM
#91
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If the Varrs came with something that could differentiate themselves from the TE's I think this would be less of an issue. If they engraved "Varrstoen" in a similar fashion that 19 TE's have "forged" it would be a little more respectable in my opinion. B/c at that point you've tried separating themselves from Volk and have established that they are NOT Volks.
Same Invicta i have, decent watch. The band digs in when typing, definatly sharper edges on the band and case.
10-05-2010, 11:36 PM
#92
^Or at least do something that would make them different... I would NEVER in my life rock a Varrs.. EVER! I could understand if the quality was as good or better, a perfect example would be Meister's vs. SP1's. They're both incredible quality wheels, both are multi piece, and both have racing pedigree. The SP1's are a little less but the Meister's are the one everyone strives for. As for the watch I like 44mm or bigger watches... I cant rock a Rolly b/c looks girly on my small wrists(no homo).
10-06-2010, 04:35 AM
#93
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I think it's the difference between an imitation and a copy. When you imitate, you are recognizing a greatness of another and you're striving to be the same or even better, it is flattering. A copy is blatant, like copying verbatim a design, putting on a fake logo, basically trying to pass something off as real. It is stealing, illegal and unethical. So is a Varrstoen an imitation or a copy? How bout the Rolly and Invicta? If a fake logo is put on, it certainly becomes a copy.
Last edited by Zakira; 10-06-2010 at 04:46 AM.
10-06-2010, 05:57 AM
#95
I think it's the difference between an imitation and a copy. When you imitate, you are recognizing a greatness of another and you're striving to be the same or even better, it is flattering. A copy is blatant, like copying verbatim a design, putting on a fake logo, basically trying to pass something off as real. It is stealing, illegal and unethical. So is a Varrstoen an imitation or a copy? How bout the Rolly and Invicta? If a fake logo is put on, it certainly becomes a copy.
^ No, the watches are not the same.
If you were to put a Rolly logo on the Invicta, one could still tell that it was not a Rolly.
With wheels, where 18" are concerned, there is very little if no way to tell the difference besides tags. You cant "see" that they are cast wheels vs. forged.
10-06-2010, 01:16 PM
#100
I can understand a 18 year old who spent his entire life savings on a salvaged 03 Z with 140K that he bought for $7K, that wants to look cool too. I think its cute, I really do. Come on, if youre over 21, have some class. Stop being a poser. I've heard every excuse in the world on why you have fake ghetto wheels. Own up, you cant afford them then dont, stop buying cheaply made ghetto fakes and ricing up your ride. I'll never understand the need for wheels so much that youre going to get rid of your quality OEM wheels for some chitty poser garbage. Nice Altezzas 
Oh and Nice R8 Brah!
Oh and Nice R8 Brah!