Aren't you taking profits away from the designers of the "real body kits"? How can you possibly justify hurting those companies? This whole argument is ridiculous anyway. Everyone should just buy what they want and be done with it. It really doesn't matter who manufactured the product.............each item will perform in a satisfactory manner. As I said before, accepting replica products in one kind of product and refusing to accept replicas in another is hypocritical. If you are truly concerned with the manufacturers of so called "real products" you should be concerned with manufacturers of all "real products". You should not be selective with your high moral ground.

 

I am, however the markup seems much more ridiculous on kits than on wheels. Like i said, your buying a much better made product with wheels. With kits, i cant say the same. If markup wasnt so insane on kits, id reconsider even paying more for the authentic just to support the original designer.

My moral high ground has limits, friend. That's not hypocritical, that's being smart. At some point you need to start looking out for your own interests as well. I disagree with their markup strategies, whether the profit margin is slim or not. I would like to see some reform on pricing, therefore my support is limited to these companies. Its not that i am not buying authentic kits because i cant afford them, (reason most buy fake wheels), its because i disagree with their price points.

Just like with everything else in life, you have to draw lines somewhere. Im not gonna buy an authentic oil cap for 10k just because its authentic and i have to or im a hypocrite. That attitude give those said companies free reign to set the prices as high as they want, barring competition from other authentic companies, as they know loyalists would pay whatever it took.

Like body kits being of the SAME MATERIAL AND FITTMENT whether authentic or replica, when Varrstoen starts to make forged wheels at the much cheaper price point they are at now, then i will reconsider.

That is how knockoffs thrive, making a duplicate product but with much cheaper materials and methods therefore a cheaper price. (like wheels) Not making a duplicate product with the same materials and methods but with a cheaper price. (like kits) The latter promotes fair pricing to the consumer, imho. The former is just making a cheap *** version of a higher end product.

 

Still your argument makes no sense. If one kind of replica is bad, than all replicas must be bad. Replica wheels are bad but replica body parts are good. That position cannot be defended by any reasonable person.

 

I guess none of you believe in helping out the economy. I don't believe replica wheels hurt The originator's to badly. One, people buy knock offs because they don't want to spend that much money on an object or just don't have the means to, so they are not taking profit away from the originator's because the person would just do without. A person buying the original is not looking to buy a replica or fake and therefore is not in that segment of the market.


I believe this whole issue is more about branding/posing then actually taking profit away from the originator's. For one I don't have any knock off items or replica's on my car but if I couldn't afford an item and decided to buy a knock off wheel; I wouldn't have the means to buy the authentic and thus wouldn't be buying the authentic anyhow! If your going to knock replica wheels it's only right to do the same to body kits. That is my piece in this discussion.

 

Theres no reason to argue over Replica wheels, Wheels are wheels, If you like them and can afford them buy what you like!!

 

The argument is not as simple as that. There are things in life called variables. They differ from one instance to another, despite how seemingly black and white you can break down the argument to.

Sure, that nice little simple sentence you typed above sounds perfectly feasible when looking no further into the subject. I could break down any argument to my liking in order to support either side if i wanted to. "If one kind of drug is bad for you, they must all be bad for you."

Either way, others are correct, this argument will go nowhere productive and never has. If you fail to at least understand my side of the argument after 2 huge posts, let alone agree or disagree with it, we are both wasting our time. And providing your own argument of "If one replica is bad, they must all be bad" is just keeping this conversation stuck in one place with no fuel to keep going. I cant argue with something that has no substance.

 

Hmm... For the record, you know Rays makes G-Games, right? They're cast, lower-priced wheels.




This



Maybe people don't realize how many authentic kits are only sold in fiberglass and do not fit 100%. In addition... I wanted a flexible material, so I went with a Shine Auto V2, rather than the "authentic" one. Price was the least of my concern, as was availability. I waited longer for my Shine Auto kit than I would have waited for the authentic one.

For the record, some authentic parts have been discontinued, making them unobtainable by most. What should one do in this situation if they have a certain look they want? Pay a premium for a used part that they can possibly wait a year for?
Hmm, wheels... Seems like everyone likes Volk designs, but they can't afford them.

The only reason for off-brand wheels is price. This is correlative to eBay parts that are made in china.



Refer above

 

I haven't read all these pages... but if anyone reads my reply, this is what I think:


1. Get whatever wheel makes you happy.

2. Get whatever wheel YOU can afford, no matter what look you are going for.

 

I about never see eye to eye with kornercarver on things, I think hes an old religious loon, but he is spot on here Geaux.

 

You bought Varrstoens for the new Camaro, didnt you?

 

Not here to argue buddy but not everyone likes Volks. Me in particular hate their design. I personally feel like it has come to the point where in this Forum if you don't have Volk Wheels your not liked or people really don't care about your car. To me Volk is just another wheel name not greater than others out there. They just a material piece called Volk. A wheel is a wheel regardless of the name/brand and some are better than others but not just Volk. I am not by any means supporting the fake wheels because i don't think is right for you guys to pay so much for your Volk when you can go and buy 3 or 4 sets of the copycat. That is unfair to me, but it will never stop happening and they will never stop making them and there is nothing we can do to make it stop either. That is just business and the business will go on. The way i think of it is, as long as you know you have the real thing and you worked your behind off just to buy them or whatever the case might have been. Be happy and proud your not that guy rocking them fake wheels thinking he got the real deal. Hell! if i was a Volk fanboy i would be damn happy and proud i got the real thing and not some fake ones.

I know a couple people that have volks and they love them and they are also very proud when they see someone that has the knock offs that they got the real Volk. It is a moment to be proud of yourself. Here in the internet its whatever because at the end of the day. To each its own.

Piece

 

Very well said, but the fanboys here bleed from their V....... at all times.

 

from link:

http://stopbuyingrotas.wordpress.com...nk-you-mackin/

 

I bought a rep kit so I could afford my genuine rims. Look at my car and tell me you see any fitment issues or can tell the difference.

 

Here's my view on it.
1) I would think that Volk owners buy their products because of the quality forgings that are super strong & super light, something that you won't get in a knockoff.

2) As far as Volk deserving exclusive rights to very similiar designed rims, Volk did not invent or design the first 6, 8, 10, or 12 spoke rims, truth is, to some extent they copied previously designed wheels.

3) If your a Volk owner and it pisses you off when you another Z with knocksoffs has achieved the same look (from a distance) for $2000 less. GET OVER IT already.

4) If your selling knockoffs and trying to pass them off as originals (ie stickers) your an a$$wipe who deserves to go to jail.

 

If rocking fake gear is your thing then, play on player(s)...

Ive never ironed on alligators on my shirts, my adidas have 3 stripes and my polo shirts have a man on a horse holding a mallet. I even pay for my music downloads on itunes. The gratification I get is bar none knowing Im riding legit and didnt have to fake the funk to do it.

The only time I can justify rocking a replica is…. If the kit/wheel is discontinued or like the V3 when it first came out was only available for Nismo owners needing a replacement.

People complaining about price may not understand that this stuff comes in from Japan. Not only is there a long wait due to shipping, it cost bank to get it here.

As for Fatlace, cant blame them for their stance on this. They need to keep their sponsor(s) happy.

 

Do Volk owners get generic or name brand at the pharmacy?

 

which is lighter in wieght?

 

Last ppl on planet earth i want to actively support is the drug companies.

 

LOL at both replies.