I live in the Northeast and and need of new tires but I'm not sure if I should get these or dedicated snow tires and a set of all seasons (i have toyo proxies 4).

basically I've never driven the snow know and I don't want to get stuck but I've heard horror stories.

if I did get snow tires I would run all season tires from march til december. I'm just unsure if these all season tires (toyo proxies 4) would get me through winter.

Edit: i cant change the name of the thread, should read toyo proxies 4 or dedicated snows

 

I don’t have experience with Toyo Proxies 4, but I have run Continental DWS all season tires during the winter.

Since you get snow and ice where you live, I recommend studless snow tires. I tried running the Continental DWS all season tires in snow, and I soon switched to snow tires (Dunlop Graspic DS-2 studless tires), The snow tires are much better. --Spike

 

Thanks spike. Ive been reading threads about sizes.

Which is the best for stock 17" wheels without messing up the traction control and vsd.

 

I live in the Northeast (Philadelphia) and I run dedicated Summer tires end of March - end of November, then dedicated Winter tires for the rest of the year. I only had one instance where I couldn't drive (with summer tires on), which was random snowfall towards the end of October/early November.

I don't think there would be a point of running All Seasons + Winter, whereas Summer + Winter would be a more ideal setup since you'd get the best of both during their respective times. I stuck to OEM sizes for my winter tires and they're mounted on my OEM rims.

 

Suwaidi, that is true I guess I was worried about running summer tires for when it's colder out like 30-50 degrees. I know that summer tires in these conditions would be rock hard and thus performance would change.

My wheels in front have brand new Toyo Proxies 4 and the rears are Hankook which are shot. Can't afford 4 new tires at this point so just getting new rears.

Would having summer tires on the rear and all seasons on the front not be optimal verus all seasons all around?

 

The general graph I've seen where Winter tires outperform Summer in terms of temperature starts at 45, where above = Summer, below = Winter. That being said, back in November I drove 3 hours in ~32 degree weather, not once did the slip light come on or did I have issues. Many people expect summer tires to perform somewhat well in cold weather and when they push it, they complain about the tires being horrible in cold weather (which, they are, but they aren't THAT bad.). For reference I had Pilot Super Sports when I did the commute, and I did drive in under 40 degree weather many times (although not optimal of course).

They have different tread patterns and designs due to what they're designed for, I've even read threads that say you shouldn't mix/match certain tires of the same type because they're different brands (eg. Summer Michelin + Summer Hankook). Call Tirerack and ask them:

Neal, 1-877-522-8473 ext 4624

He's a rep on the board and should be able to answer your questions regarding tire matching. IMO, I would go with all seasons all around in your case.

 

Thanks I'll do that.

Wish I had the $$ for 4 new tires but it's just oem base rims and money is tight.

 

Alternate solution; run a set of somewhat used tires (tires depreciate in value very very quickly) that are in good condition until you can buy a set of what you want. Winters almost over anyway!

 

Yeah i actually was just going to get the two toyo proxies and wait to get a used oem set of rims and some snow tires until next winter. The winter is now nit too bad and the roads are normally clear

 

I have a dedicated snow set and a dedicated summer set. If you do this dont go with all seasons, get summer performance tires. All seasons will never have the grip that summer performance tires have.

Summer setup: stockies with BF Goodrich G-Force KDW2
Winter setup: 04 Touring stockies with Dunlop Winter Sport M3

This setup gives the best of both worlds, and you can buy snow tires and wheels for cheap in the spring, I paid 200 from a member here for mine and this is my second season with them.

 

I had no idea you could get winter wheels and tires so cheap. I was upset at the fact i thought i had to spend about $900-1000 on a set. I could careless if they were used as long as there is a lot of tread.

My only issue with that is my fronts are brand new all seasons snd im not sure if mixing is the best option. Sadly i dont have the cash for 4 new tires.

 

I had Proxes 4 on mine. First snow of the year, couldn't back up my driveway into the garage, and got stuck half way on my lawn from sliding around.
Finally got help and pushed it in the garage to put on a set of stock 18's with 225/50/18Blizzak's all round. Bought the set for $450 used from somebody locally. Put two sand bags in the back ahead of the rear strut bar, and have driven this almost every day of our miserable Canadian winter. It's actually a better winter car than my moddded Cherokee SRT8 with Conti DWS on. Don't mix tires, you're asking for trouble. Good luck with the used tire shopping!

 

One set of dedicated snows and a set of warm weather tires is ideal. However, if you are looking for an all season, the DWS would be a good choice. Those have the best winter traction of the bunch as far as a sport a/s tire goes.

 

I live in Northern Virginia and the DWS are definitely a nice all season since the weather fluctuates frequently here. However, if it snows enough and there's enough snow and ice you're better off with dedicted snows.

Also there's snow socks! http://www.autosock.co.uk/
I think they actually work! I really wanted to try them but never got around to ordering them in time..

 

^ Interesting find - Some threads on the bmw forums have reviews that they work quite well but wider tires are harder to fit over

Accuweather says it snowed 10.1 inches on February 8 in Rochester... Seeing as how up north NY is much colder than where I am, I would heavily suggest investing in Blizzaks. True, used ones sell for much less, but then again tires depreciate quickly!

 

I had leftover Z33 base 17" wheels leftover from my drifting days. What I did was combine 4 rear wheels with same size snow tires so I can rotate them. Here's an old thread about it. https://my350z.com/forum/wheels-and-...l#post10026941 #159-160 are most useful. You could try Falken Eurowinters in 225/55-R17 (ideal 17" size) if you're concerned about the cost. I'm not sure how they stack up against Blizzaks but I'm using dirt cheap Federal Himalaya WS2 215/55-R17 which I found brand new on Ebay and they do about as well as my old Blizzak LM22 in staggered oem size in the snow minus dry handling probably due to my really narrow treadwidth. I just came back from Elk mountain in Union Dale, PA for some skiing and it was snowing today. It snowed about a month ago here in Jersey and no problem then as well.