Stock DE vs Revup vs HR vs VHR numbers

Diesel350 · 01-16-2009, 07:27 AM

This really puts things into perspective. All done on the same exact dyno.

kacz07 · 01-16-2009, 07:29 AM

awesome...lots of people have been looking for this...

sticky?

the vhr is super refined

WhiteNoiz · 01-16-2009, 07:37 AM

nice post. Finally some dyno sheets to shut up the DE vs. HR debate. Good numbers for the VHR.

350Zenophile · 01-16-2009, 07:48 AM

Test drove a 370Z yesterday and compared to my fully bolt on DE w/Osiris base map it felt a bit faster on the butt dyno. These dynos look like confirmation of a logical and reasonable progression in engine development by Nissan.

Category5 · 01-16-2009, 08:22 AM

Keep dreaming. According to Nissan (you know, the guys who actually build these cars), the DE has the highest torque (274) of any Z ever built.

davidv · 01-16-2009, 08:28 AM

Thanks for doing the testing and dynos. Very informative.

ajcool2 · 01-16-2009, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Category5

Keep dreaming. According to Nissan (you know, the guys who actually build these cars), the DE has the highest torque (274) of any Z ever built.

lol

350Zenophile · 01-16-2009, 08:34 AM

^ If that was directed at me I thought I made it clear that I believe these dynos and that the 370Z was without doubt making more power than my modded DE...comprehenshun. get some.

ajcool2 · 01-16-2009, 09:06 AM

I lol'd at the 274 ft/lb torque.

jimpactmfsc · 01-16-2009, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Category5

Keep dreaming. According to Nissan (you know, the guys who actually build these cars), the DE has the highest torque (274) of any Z ever built.

rcdash · 01-16-2009, 12:24 PM

Nice collection of dynos - thanks to Sam at GTM for sharing them!

Here is the original thread: http://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds/...velopment.html

All quite similar up till 5k rpms. Then the newer designs just keep pulling away...

New JerZ · 01-16-2009, 01:19 PM

looks like someone f'ed up on the vq35HR run. I have had mine dyno'd several times and never seen spikes like that in the mid range. Mine were all very smooth.(for a stock tune anyway)

rcdash · 01-16-2009, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New JerZ

looks like someone f'ed up on the vq35HR run. I have had mine dyno'd several times and never seen spikes like that in the mid range. Mine were all very smooth.(for a stock tune anyway)

Why don't you go over to Sam's thread and tell him that?

I think it has to do with the 2nd throttle body opening or cam changes - not sure. If you do ask him about it, I wouldn't phrase it quite the way you did. Top tuners take offense to those kinds of remarks.

2004Black350z · 01-16-2009, 03:06 PM

Thanks 4 the info.

Nathan · 01-16-2009, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Category5

Keep dreaming. According to Nissan (you know, the guys who actually build these cars), the DE has the highest torque (274) of any Z ever built.

This statement needs an explanation.
The DE indeed has the highest peak Tq published by Nissan, but it only achieves this in one small rev band. ( aprox 4.5K to 4.8K ) at most other revs the later motors are making more Tq than the DE & therefore more power.
Tq = HP x 5252 divided by RPM and HP = Tq x RPM divided by 5252.

maximariceboi · 01-17-2009, 07:56 AM

great info

jumpin800agl · 01-17-2009, 08:10 AM

Glad i have the VHR.

jray8 · 01-17-2009, 09:19 AM

great info

tuko316 · 01-17-2009, 11:24 AM

very informative. even though theres less torque there is more area under the curve.

Berk_Technology · 01-17-2009, 08:45 PM

The torque curve on the 09 motor is just phenomenal.

01-16-2009, 07:27 AM	#1
Diesel350 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,686 iTrader: (2)	Stock DE vs Revup vs HR vs VHR numbers This really puts things into perspective. All done on the same exact dyno. __________________ 2006 Silver Alloy 6mt- Mods-Motordyne MREV Plus, HKS Dual Hi-Power (Ti) Exhaust, Popcharger

01-16-2009, 07:29 AM	#2
kacz07 Professional Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 1,231 iTrader: (5)	awesome...lots of people have been looking for this... sticky? the vhr is super refined __________________ 06 6MT Touring Silverstone- Nismo V2 front bumper, Nismo JDM sides, Tourenn rear bumper, GTspec underbody braces, JWT popcharger, Cosworth Manifold, Berk HFC, Borla TD exhaust

01-16-2009, 07:37 AM	#3
WhiteNoiz Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 1,621 iTrader: (0)	nice post. Finally some dyno sheets to shut up the DE vs. HR debate. Good numbers for the VHR. __________________ 2004.5 DB Touring Coupe 6MT, K&N drop-in, Bassani Exhaust, 5/16" MD spacer

01-16-2009, 08:28 AM	#6
davidv Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 34,038 iTrader: (2)	Thanks for doing the testing and dynos. Very informative. __________________ 370Z 2009 Sport Package

01-16-2009, 09:06 AM	#9
ajcool2 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Baltimore Posts: 1,872 iTrader: (10)	I lol'd at the 274 ft/lb torque. __________________ 04 Touring 13.849@101mph AUTO Stock l PB 13.144@105.71 Modded

01-16-2009, 07:48 AM	#4
350Zenophile Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,210 iTrader: (11)	Test drove a 370Z yesterday and compared to my fully bolt on DE w/Osiris base map it felt a bit faster on the butt dyno. These dynos look like confirmation of a logical and reasonable progression in engine development by Nissan.

01-16-2009, 08:22 AM	#5
Category5 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: South Miami, FL Posts: 211 iTrader: (0)	Keep dreaming. According to Nissan (you know, the guys who actually build these cars), the DE has the highest torque (274) of any Z ever built.

01-16-2009, 08:34 AM	#8
350Zenophile Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,210 iTrader: (11)	^ If that was directed at me I thought I made it clear that I believe these dynos and that the 370Z was without doubt making more power than my modded DE...comprehenshun. get some.

01-16-2009, 12:24 PM	#11
rcdash Living in 350Z Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 4,148 iTrader: (9)	Nice collection of dynos - thanks to Sam at GTM for sharing them! Here is the original thread: http://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds/...velopment.html All quite similar up till 5k rpms. Then the newer designs just keep pulling away... __________________ Forged Performance Built: Arias, Eagle, JWT-700bb, GTM-5AT, Haltech, Carbonetics LSD, Tein Monoflex. Motordyne Shockwave TDX, and StopTech BBK. Click Here for More Details! Last edited by rcdash; 01-16-2009 at 02:15 PM.

01-16-2009, 01:19 PM	#12
New JerZ Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: New JerZ Posts: 391 iTrader: (4)	looks like someone f'ed up on the vq35HR run. I have had mine dyno'd several times and never seen spikes like that in the mid range. Mine were all very smooth.(for a stock tune anyway) __________________ 07 Z~ Back to stock form after having a 300 whp NA Z with just I/E. MRC you will be missed.

01-16-2009, 03:06 PM	#14
2004Black350z Im that Guy Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NC Posts: 4,227 iTrader: (18)	Thanks 4 the info. __________________ Exhaust Whore

01-17-2009, 07:56 AM	#16
maximariceboi Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 583 iTrader: (33)	great info __________________ 1999 Maxima cammed vq35 with a few other goodies \| 04.5 350z Track\| www.teamalloutnissan.com

01-17-2009, 08:10 AM	#17
jumpin800agl Forged Army Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Vicenza, Italy Posts: 3,129 iTrader: (7)	Glad i have the VHR. __________________ International Beer Taster 2008 G37c Sport (TT project winter '09) Merry Christmas from the Stan

01-17-2009, 09:19 AM	#18
jray8 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ROCKY TOP, TENNESSEE Posts: 2,880 iTrader: (0)	great info

01-17-2009, 11:24 AM	#19
tuko316 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: queens new york Posts: 84 iTrader: (4)	very informative. even though theres less torque there is more area under the curve.

01-17-2009, 08:45 PM	#20
Berk_Technology Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Irvine Posts: 211 iTrader: (10)	The torque curve on the 09 motor is just phenomenal.

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