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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 06:27 AM
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Default Stock DE vs Revup vs HR vs VHR numbers

This really puts things into perspective. All done on the same exact dyno.

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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 06:29 AM
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awesome...lots of people have been looking for this...

sticky?

the vhr is super refined
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 06:37 AM
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nice post. Finally some dyno sheets to shut up the DE vs. HR debate. Good numbers for the VHR.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 06:48 AM
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Test drove a 370Z yesterday and compared to my fully bolt on DE w/Osiris base map it felt a bit faster on the butt dyno. These dynos look like confirmation of a logical and reasonable progression in engine development by Nissan.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 07:22 AM
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Keep dreaming. According to Nissan (you know, the guys who actually build these cars), the DE has the highest torque (274) of any Z ever built.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 07:28 AM
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Thanks for doing the testing and dynos. Very informative.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Category5
Keep dreaming. According to Nissan (you know, the guys who actually build these cars), the DE has the highest torque (274) of any Z ever built.
lol
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 07:34 AM
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^ If that was directed at me I thought I made it clear that I believe these dynos and that the 370Z was without doubt making more power than my modded DE...comprehenshun. get some.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 08:06 AM
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I lol'd at the 274 ft/lb torque.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Category5
Keep dreaming. According to Nissan (you know, the guys who actually build these cars), the DE has the highest torque (274) of any Z ever built.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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Nice collection of dynos - thanks to Sam at GTM for sharing them!


Here is the original thread: https://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds...velopment.html


All quite similar up till 5k rpms. Then the newer designs just keep pulling away...

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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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looks like someone f'ed up on the vq35HR run. I have had mine dyno'd several times and never seen spikes like that in the mid range. Mine were all very smooth.(for a stock tune anyway)
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by New JerZ
looks like someone f'ed up on the vq35HR run. I have had mine dyno'd several times and never seen spikes like that in the mid range. Mine were all very smooth.(for a stock tune anyway)
Why don't you go over to Sam's thread and tell him that? I think it has to do with the 2nd throttle body opening or cam changes - not sure. If you do ask him about it, I wouldn't phrase it quite the way you did. Top tuners take offense to those kinds of remarks.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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Thanks 4 the info.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Category5
Keep dreaming. According to Nissan (you know, the guys who actually build these cars), the DE has the highest torque (274) of any Z ever built.
This statement needs an explanation.
The DE indeed has the highest peak Tq published by Nissan, but it only achieves this in one small rev band. ( aprox 4.5K to 4.8K ) at most other revs the later motors are making more Tq than the DE & therefore more power.
Tq = HP x 5252 divided by RPM and HP = Tq x RPM divided by 5252.

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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 06:56 AM
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great info
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Glad i have the VHR.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 08:19 AM
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great info
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 10:24 AM
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very informative. even though theres less torque there is more area under the curve.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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The torque curve on the 09 motor is just phenomenal.
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