Dont want to offend anyone, but so you think your Z is faster than the 300ZX eh???
I did'nt time it. I was going along around 80mph and this caddy past me. So I waited for him to get way ahead. Then opened it up, caught and passed him like he was stopped. Had to back out of it when I came upon this curve leading into Indian Springs.
Originally Posted by kcobean
I can smoke a 300ZXTT all day long....been there done that, even before the upgrades to my Turbonetics kit.
And I'd really say the same about an APS TT 350Z as well. I think the best I've heard out of that kit is mid 11s...11.6 maybe. Not really a big deal for TT owners anymore.
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Originally Posted by 1991TT
Come on now, honestly.
Do you really think Nissan would admit that the 350Z was actually slower than its predecessor?
Do you really think Nissan would admit that the 350Z was actually slower than its predecessor?
Obviously not...
But numbers dont fudge themselves, It is what it is
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Originally Posted by 1991TT
I'm having trouble finding a timeslip from a completely stock TT. What I can tell you is, that if you go to Z32racing.com you'll find a list of guys breaking into 10's and at least one guy that'll make 9's before long.
Funny thing about most of the guys on these lists is the fact that they're using their stock turbos, injectors, and ICs.
I'm about to post on twinturbo.net to see if I can find someone to help me look for a 'stock' timeslip. I'll post back if I can find one.
Funny thing about most of the guys on these lists is the fact that they're using their stock turbos, injectors, and ICs.
I'm about to post on twinturbo.net to see if I can find someone to help me look for a 'stock' timeslip. I'll post back if I can find one.
I ran against a 300ZX TT that was running 11's, back when I had my 93 FD, with a T78, street porting and supporting mods. We were both running similar times, but he had larger than stock turbos, can't remember the exact size, and a ton of other mods.
Originally Posted by VeeTec
I know they take better to mods, but stock I haven't seen better than high 13's, that's why I was wondering if someone had a slip.
Has anyone here ever actually driven a TT?
I don't know, but I think that depends on how you define a 'FAST' car.
I don't call a car that can run from 0 to 100kph or 60mph faster a faster car.
I don't call a car taht can run 1/4 mile faster a fast car either.
Of course the acceleration is important, but being fast is not all about the straight line acceleration. For that sort of performance, all you need is the power and tyres that can hold the power. Power to weight ratio will clearly show the result of 1/4 mile or 0-60 for one being faster than the other, in most cases.
If you have a so called '10 second car', then u need the balance and suspension that will match your power. If you spent few bucks into 300zx TT, yes it will have massive increase in power due to it being a turbo, more exhaust flow and boost will make 100hp real easy, but you will need to spend quite a few to match up the body rigidity/gear ratio/shock/spring/brake and etc also, or you have nothing but power, you got the power that you can use on a stright line but nowhere else.
I personally think Z33 got very nice chasis. I am not so sure about the tire feathering issues going on in the US, but nearly all cars i drove were wearing inside more than the outside due to the camber i run at. You need more camber to corner with more grip, and that will hurt your tyres when going straight. again, if you have a fast straight line car, you need as less camber as possible close to 0, which will give you much better grip off the line or to support your massive hp but you will suffer from every corner you hit.
Anyways, back to the topic.. I think Z33 is a faster car because it has better chasis design and overal balance, and the weight being lighter than Z32. The stock suspension setup of Z33 will not satisfy most of the 'drivers', but thats what you get from a production car. At least Z33 comes with very very stiff chasis and light weight components. The motor of Z33 does not satisfy me very much, I think this car is more of an 'american' style motor - high displacement low revving engine. Pity Nissan had to discontinue RB and SR engines due to emmision rules. Z33 comes with brembo brakes too, while its not the best brakes available, with pads that can really bite, it will do more than enough braking for average 'drivers'.
Its 2:30 am here and probably the consistency of my write up is all fxxed up.. But calling a car FAST should involve the overall balance of the car, not the straight line acceleration. And to compare a car, should compare it stock to stock. If you made more power from z32 by doing the exhaust and boost, so can z33 with turbokit, and will have even better potential for it being higher cc than z32, and the compression rate being higher will keep the car more 'streetable' also.
Would you call S2000 a fast car? This car barely hits low 14's but I would call that car a REAL fast car. I personally think S2000's balance is way beyond z33's but its losing its practicality for street use.
bahh what am i talking about.. im going to sleep now :P
I don't call a car that can run from 0 to 100kph or 60mph faster a faster car.
I don't call a car taht can run 1/4 mile faster a fast car either.
Of course the acceleration is important, but being fast is not all about the straight line acceleration. For that sort of performance, all you need is the power and tyres that can hold the power. Power to weight ratio will clearly show the result of 1/4 mile or 0-60 for one being faster than the other, in most cases.
If you have a so called '10 second car', then u need the balance and suspension that will match your power. If you spent few bucks into 300zx TT, yes it will have massive increase in power due to it being a turbo, more exhaust flow and boost will make 100hp real easy, but you will need to spend quite a few to match up the body rigidity/gear ratio/shock/spring/brake and etc also, or you have nothing but power, you got the power that you can use on a stright line but nowhere else.
I personally think Z33 got very nice chasis. I am not so sure about the tire feathering issues going on in the US, but nearly all cars i drove were wearing inside more than the outside due to the camber i run at. You need more camber to corner with more grip, and that will hurt your tyres when going straight. again, if you have a fast straight line car, you need as less camber as possible close to 0, which will give you much better grip off the line or to support your massive hp but you will suffer from every corner you hit.
Anyways, back to the topic.. I think Z33 is a faster car because it has better chasis design and overal balance, and the weight being lighter than Z32. The stock suspension setup of Z33 will not satisfy most of the 'drivers', but thats what you get from a production car. At least Z33 comes with very very stiff chasis and light weight components. The motor of Z33 does not satisfy me very much, I think this car is more of an 'american' style motor - high displacement low revving engine. Pity Nissan had to discontinue RB and SR engines due to emmision rules. Z33 comes with brembo brakes too, while its not the best brakes available, with pads that can really bite, it will do more than enough braking for average 'drivers'.
Its 2:30 am here and probably the consistency of my write up is all fxxed up.. But calling a car FAST should involve the overall balance of the car, not the straight line acceleration. And to compare a car, should compare it stock to stock. If you made more power from z32 by doing the exhaust and boost, so can z33 with turbokit, and will have even better potential for it being higher cc than z32, and the compression rate being higher will keep the car more 'streetable' also.
Would you call S2000 a fast car? This car barely hits low 14's but I would call that car a REAL fast car. I personally think S2000's balance is way beyond z33's but its losing its practicality for street use.
bahh what am i talking about.. im going to sleep now :P
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Originally Posted by 1991TT
Nah, looks like the best was a 13.7 someone ran a while back. Someone did post a 13.9 though. I think its a safe to say that if you get ten 350Zs and ten 300ZXTTs, the times they run in the 1320 are going to be very, very close on the average. One single car posting a tenth faster in the quarter isn't the final word in which car is faster every time the two line up.
Has anyone here ever actually driven a TT?
Has anyone here ever actually driven a TT?
First and second gear in the TT seem to lag a bit compared to when 3rd picks up strongly. Probably due to gearing.
Originally Posted by VeeTec
I have driven a few of them. They feel faster with the top end burst, but I am pretty sure it was the boost feel, versus the linear feel of the 3.5 VQ.
First and second gear in the TT seem to lag a bit compared to when 3rd picks up strongly. Probably due to gearing.
First and second gear in the TT seem to lag a bit compared to when 3rd picks up strongly. Probably due to gearing.
About the gearing thing...full throttle in first gear was a mess. My tail would hop and skip all over the place. Second gear would break loose as soon as I hit it, gain traction....then loose it again at the top of the gear once the turbos spooled.
But, my car wasn't stock either.
I miss it.
Originally Posted by 1991TT
Has anyone here ever actually driven a TT?
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