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if i remember correctly- they sold some things that were falsely advertised as somethin else (ie. kinetix tp= megan instead)... i dont rememberthe exact details, plus they had some issues or somethin bout customer service and with the advertising fees on the board. Red6 which was affiliated with them recently posted up a pic of his car repainted purple ( was the redline car on the black magic ads), maybe he can chime in on this.