just a thought, i've heard engine blown up problem in Rsx and celica forum due to miss-shifting, do u think our 350Z will have the same problem too? and does anyone know how does this happen? and what will happen if u shift to a lower gear in a wrong speed)?(like u shift to first gear when u are 100km)

 

Umm... Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that happens in every car. If you're quick back on the clutch you can usually save the car from blowing up.

I think there is a video on the net of an RSX Type-S shifting into 1st instead of 3rd and the needle on the tach goes to like 9500rpm and nothing major seemed to happen

 

that's what get to confuse me sometime, i've seen people use miss shifting skill in old car to stop a car in a short distance without any major damage..............

 

i hope 350Z has kind of the feature as ur prelude or else i 'm pretty sure i will meet the problem since i've never driven a stick before.

 

Rev limiters mean nothing when you mis a shift. There were a slew of engine blow up's with the 1997-1998 boxsters. The first thing the dealers did was hook up the engine to their computer and if there was what they call a "stage two redline" then the engine was not replaced under warrenty. A stage one redline occurs when you floor it to redline, a stage two is on a downshift. Think about it. When you accellerate, and hit redline, the fuel cut off comes on and you can not go any faster. But on a downshift, the car is already going faster so fule cut off will not do anything.

 

I'm not saying it went to a position numbered 9500rpm, just saying that if the tach continued the needle would be at a 9500-10000rpm position, see for yourself:

RSX Type-S *Missing a Shift*

that needle looks like its past 10,000rpm to me.

 

WOW....that needle sure went way the heck up there....however, the kid was pretty quick in getting the clutch backed off. i sure hope the car wasnt anywhere near the break-in period! This is why I will never buy another usedcar, cuz one instance like that will score the piston or weaken a ring and cause problems latter.....

BTW...i looks like 9k + to me!, but the engine didnt sound too strained....Im sure there is a certain tolerance, like if he was going for 5th and hit 1st then he would have first ground a gear, spun out of control, then had to pick up the pieces.

 

so can anyone tell me(or teach me) how to drive a stick safely that will prevent those kind of engine blow up incident not to happen?

 

Yah, here you go: How not to blow up your engine!

 

Rev limiters only work under acceleration (prior to an upshift.) The system will not stop over-revving during a downshift, i.e. 5th to 2nd....limitation of the system.

 

thx~~

 

I haven't heard about that in the RSXs yet. But spending as much time at the Toyota parts department as I have tendancies to do, I have heard lots of the guys talk about the Celica's problems. If I am under the correct impression, it all has to do with the rev-happy engines and the gearing. I personally think that a 4 doesn't need a 6spd. A high powered V6 will actually be able to justify having the sixth gear.

 

so that means if u don't miss shift, then there's no way u will get into trouble with that, right?

 

I believe the problem that I read on the Toyota forums with all the celica was actually the trannies. A TON of new owners in "spirited" driving situations were slamming the car into reverse instead of 5th gear......that is the way I understood it to be happening......sounded like a design flaw to me.

I didn't even think that would be possible...but who knows?

A bunch of the owners were p!ssed that it was so easy to do....the misshift I mean. I don't belive it dealt with actually over revving the engine, unless of course this is a recent addidtion to the problem with the tranny.

also agree with post above, a 4 cyl doesn't justify the 6-speed

just my $.02