Driving during winter
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My guess is you slowed at the wrong time.
Originally Posted by Adibese
my guess is that you accelerated at the wrong time.
We see this all the time on the track. A driver will realize (or, even more often, wrongly think) that he / she overcooked it going into a turn, back off, and lose it rear-end first. It's amazing how far you can throw a car into a turn without losing it if you know what you're doing - stay on the throttle and add correction for oversteer early and often. Sometimes you're just in over your head and you're going to lose it no matter what you do. But backing off guarantees a problem, and you can often get through the turn if you just maintain your speed.
When it's slippery, the limits are much lower but the principle is the same. You can't violate the laws of physics but you can use them to your advantage. People usually underestimate their speed at turn-in (which is why they get into trouble). Then the fear of crashing makes them over-respond and they try to slow down in mid-turn instead of controlling the car with the wheel and throttle.
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You can test the tread by using the penny trick, if you insert the penny upside down into a tread and the tread does not go to Lincolns head the tread is too low. But it sounds like well overdue anyway.
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Originally Posted by camaro194
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Originally Posted by daveZ insanity
The most common problem causing a snap spin or other sudden change in direction is trying to slow down fast once you're committed to a turn. When you back off the throttle, the weight shifts forward and unloads the rear tires. So it's no surprise that the rear loses traction. You were probably just plain going too fast for conditions - but backing off guaranteed you a problem.
We see this all the time on the track. A driver will realize (or, even more often, wrongly think) that he / she overcooked it going into a turn, back off, and lose it rear-end first. It's amazing how far you can throw a car into a turn without losing it if you know what you're doing - stay on the throttle and add correction for oversteer early and often. Sometimes you're just in over your head and you're going to lose it no matter what you do. But backing off guarantees a problem, and you can often get through the turn if you just maintain your speed.
When it's slippery, the limits are much lower but the principle is the same. You can't violate the laws of physics but you can use them to your advantage. People usually underestimate their speed at turn-in (which is why they get into trouble). Then the fear of crashing makes them over-respond and they try to slow down in mid-turn instead of controlling the car with the wheel and throttle.
We see this all the time on the track. A driver will realize (or, even more often, wrongly think) that he / she overcooked it going into a turn, back off, and lose it rear-end first. It's amazing how far you can throw a car into a turn without losing it if you know what you're doing - stay on the throttle and add correction for oversteer early and often. Sometimes you're just in over your head and you're going to lose it no matter what you do. But backing off guarantees a problem, and you can often get through the turn if you just maintain your speed.
When it's slippery, the limits are much lower but the principle is the same. You can't violate the laws of physics but you can use them to your advantage. People usually underestimate their speed at turn-in (which is why they get into trouble). Then the fear of crashing makes them over-respond and they try to slow down in mid-turn instead of controlling the car with the wheel and throttle.
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I'm working on my 3rd winter in the Z on the STOCK POTENZAS with absolutely ZERO problems at all. (a problem being - spinning out, a wreck, ending up in a ditch, stuck, etc) That's not to say I haven't scared myself silly more times than I would like to admit... but hey... you only live once, right?
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Originally Posted by roast
I'm working on my 3rd winter in the Z on the STOCK POTENZAS with absolutely ZERO problems at all. (a problem being - spinning out, a wreck, ending up in a ditch, stuck, etc) That's not to say I haven't scared myself silly more times than I would like to admit... but hey... you only live once, right?
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Originally Posted by Reality350
Not necessary in Toronto... It would be nice, but not necessary.
http://www.toronto.ca/path/index.htm
You're living just north of warm & sunny Buffalo/Rochester, New York.
Geez! It's only 60 degrees here!
http://weather.cnn.com/weather/forecast.jsp?locCode=YYZ
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Originally Posted by Reality350
Not necessary in Toronto... It would be nice, but not necessary.
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Be safe. Z on.
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Even though I got the Z in February, I am considering this my first winter. There was a bit of flurries today. Tomorrow is going to be 30 degrees. Good thing I got a beater. I am gonna miss my Z for the next few months
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Toronto peeps...
http://www.citynews.ca/
like 6 degrees on Sunday! Anyone up for a bbq? I got my "safari shorts" ready
to go! It's BYOBS&Z (bring your own beer, steak and z)
RAOTFLMAO (roll around on the floor laughing my *** off)
*him being sarcastic of course but he will take the Z out for the last weekend of 2006...Z wise that is lol*
like 6 degrees on Sunday! Anyone up for a bbq? I got my "safari shorts" ready
to go! It's BYOBS&Z (bring your own beer, steak and z)
RAOTFLMAO (roll around on the floor laughing my *** off)
*him being sarcastic of course but he will take the Z out for the last weekend of 2006...Z wise that is lol*
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Originally Posted by Nucleus
And wear are you located?
Driving on solid ice is no joke. The measliest slope/hill will park even the best drivers.
I've attached a link and a few photos to give you the idea, if in doubt.
http://www.noble.org/Press_Release/A...2000/index.htm
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I think you should get summer tires for the summer, and new winter tires for the winter. The only weather the Z cant handle with snow tires is when the snow is deeper than 6" (which is rare in Toronto). All of those other conditions (icy roads etc.) apply to all cars not just the Z.
Originally Posted by d!abolic
He actually posted this for me. Ok, the tires have about 28,000mi on them and were driven year-round. Yea, I know. What do you guys think though? Time to buy new ones? Or if I keep these, can I insert little metal studs into them or whatever you call those things?
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You're right - and that's what causes the problem
Originally Posted by Adibese
Well, I was about to write the same thing, but I thought you'd be accelerating on an "On Ramp". And braking on an "Off ramp".
A lot of ramps (on and off) seem to have a decreasing radius, too - if it tightens up on you (or it even looks like it does because of the way they shape or position the edge barriers), you've got the same problem.
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