350Z or Boxter S/ Cayman S
03-19-2007, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tropicalypso
One thing to consider is the engine layout. A mid-engine layout, such as the Cayman, results in lower drivetrain loss then a comparable front engine design. It also provides a very balanced weight distribution between the front and the back of the car... so much that Porsche decided not to beef the engine up on the Cayman, as it would have easily smoked the base 911 on a track.
03-19-2007, 12:37 PM
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Between a Boxster and a Cayman, I'd get the Cayman. Better structural rigidity/stiffness.
Cayman S will beat a base Z in a straight line, too as well as in the corners. And you can "restore" the Cayman to its pre-production potential with aftermarkets. Or, if you have $245k to spend, you can drop off your Cayman at Ruf for them to "buff it up a lil' bit" (440bhp).
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=4068
Cayman S will beat a base Z in a straight line, too as well as in the corners. And you can "restore" the Cayman to its pre-production potential with aftermarkets. Or, if you have $245k to spend, you can drop off your Cayman at Ruf for them to "buff it up a lil' bit" (440bhp).
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=4068
03-19-2007, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Electricchild
Meh, would still rather have the 911 if I had the money.
03-19-2007, 01:47 PM
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Boxster... FTL... literally. I took a Boxster S down pretty easy from a 60-120+ (we weren't street racing... it was..uh.. a closed course...
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I like the Cayman a lot but if I could break down for a P car it's be a GT3... or maybe Carerra GT.
)I like the Cayman a lot but if I could break down for a P car it's be a GT3... or maybe Carerra GT.
03-19-2007, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ****.
boxter aka. poor mans porsche
BoxSter for the poor? So what does that make the Z?
Cayman S if I could afford one, I don't do finance!
03-19-2007, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jonb7007
+1..
How can a porsche be 50k+ with a weak *** 295/285 hp????? I dont get it..
I thought boxters were like 40k and 30k....
Rsx is prob faster than a porsche.....lol
How can a porsche be 50k+ with a weak *** 295/285 hp????? I dont get it..
I thought boxters were like 40k and 30k....Rsx is prob faster than a porsche.....lol
You're talking about german engineering here..and Porsche is known
for having the best chassis and laying down the most of their available hp to the road.
The 911 Carrera S with 'only' 355hp will reach 0-60 in 4.5 sec and will be faster
on the track than cars with more than 100hp more.
03-19-2007, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by gsazabi
The Caymen S with 'only' 295hp is faster than the Z.
You're talking about german engineering here..and Porsche is known
for having the best chassis and laying down the most of their available hp to the road.
The 911 Carrera S with 'only' 355hp will reach 0-60 in 4.5 sec and will be faster
on the track than cars with more than 100hp more.
You're talking about german engineering here..and Porsche is known
for having the best chassis and laying down the most of their available hp to the road.
The 911 Carrera S with 'only' 355hp will reach 0-60 in 4.5 sec and will be faster
on the track than cars with more than 100hp more.
03-19-2007, 02:18 PM
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Y'all need to read "lightning lap" in the November '06 issue of Car and Driver.
On a 4.2 mile road course (Virginia International Raceway), the Cayman outperforms the Z.
But considering that it is over twice the price, the difference is not very significant. The Porsche turned in 3:09.5 lap time (av spd 79.8) and the Z turned in a 3:12.5 (av spd 78.5)
I think I 'd rather have 2 Zs than one Cayman. Maybe a coupe AND a roadster.
bill
On a 4.2 mile road course (Virginia International Raceway), the Cayman outperforms the Z.
But considering that it is over twice the price, the difference is not very significant. The Porsche turned in 3:09.5 lap time (av spd 79.8) and the Z turned in a 3:12.5 (av spd 78.5)
I think I 'd rather have 2 Zs than one Cayman. Maybe a coupe AND a roadster.
bill
03-19-2007, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bailey bill
Y'all need to read "lightning lap" in the November '06 issue of Car and Driver.
On a 4.2 mile road course (Virginia International Raceway), the Cayman outperforms the Z.
But considering that it is over twice the price, the difference is not very significant. The Porsche turned in 3:09.5 lap time (av spd 79.8) and the Z turned in a 3:12.5 (av spd 78.5)
I think I 'd rather have 2 Zs than one Cayman. Maybe a coupe AND a roadster.
bill
On a 4.2 mile road course (Virginia International Raceway), the Cayman outperforms the Z.
But considering that it is over twice the price, the difference is not very significant. The Porsche turned in 3:09.5 lap time (av spd 79.8) and the Z turned in a 3:12.5 (av spd 78.5)
I think I 'd rather have 2 Zs than one Cayman. Maybe a coupe AND a roadster.
bill
03-19-2007, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jonb7007
+1..
How can a porsche be 50k+ with a weak *** 295/285 hp????? I dont get it.. I thought boxters were like 40k and 30k....
Rsx is prob faster than a porsche.....lol
How can a porsche be 50k+ with a weak *** 295/285 hp????? I dont get it..
I thought boxters were like 40k and 30k....Rsx is prob faster than a porsche.....lol
bill
03-19-2007, 02:26 PM
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I would definately drive a cayman. If i were in the market for a 60K sports coupe that's what i'd have. Not a whole lot faster than the Z in a straight line, but it out handles and out refines the Z by quite a bit.
03-19-2007, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Electricchild
While I am sure what you are saying is correct, does the Z have the same amount of PRESENCE that the Cayman has?
But I buy toys that impress ME, not to impress my neighbors.
Actually, I looked at and considered the Cayman before I pulled the trigger on the Z. (I really am a big Porsche fan). It really was the only other car I seriously considered. I just couldn't convince my self that the Cayman was worth twice the price, or that the Cayman was worth the additional maintenance costs.
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03-19-2007, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by moflow
Not a whole lot faster than the Z in a straight line, but it out handles and out refines the Z by quite a bit.
bill
03-19-2007, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bailey bill
Actually, according to the article I referenced above the base price/as tested price for the Z (TracK) was $28,255/35,865 and for the Cayman it was $59,965/68,650.
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03-19-2007, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by hardrock905
The Cayman is a sweet ride for sure. Is it 70K sweet? I don't think so. .
Make no mistake, I really liked the Cayman, it just wasn't worth more than twice what I paid for the Z.
If it had been maybe $12-15K more, I think I would have bought it. The Boxster would have been in the "acceptable" range, but I didn't want another roadster (not even a Porsche roadster)
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03-19-2007, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gothchick
I parked next to a new Boxter S today at work. It looked pretty beefy, so I looked it up to see what they are all about these days. The Boxter S/ Cayman S now come with a 3.4L 295 hp engine. I wonder how either of those compare to the Z besides their $55,500 price tag?
if after watching the following video you are not convince on which car to get, then you fall into the former category. Enjoy the following video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...46194990307368
03-19-2007, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bailey bill
Neither did I.
Make no mistake, I really liked the Cayman, it just wasn't worth more than twice what I paid for the Z.
If it had been maybe $12-15K more, I think I would have bought it. The Boxster would have been in the "acceptable" range, but I didn't want another roadster (not even a Porsche roadster)
bill
Make no mistake, I really liked the Cayman, it just wasn't worth more than twice what I paid for the Z.
If it had been maybe $12-15K more, I think I would have bought it. The Boxster would have been in the "acceptable" range, but I didn't want another roadster (not even a Porsche roadster)
bill
And I know it's been said thousands of times but, for performance, looks and value, you just can't beat the Z.
