Me vs. my friend (Who is stupid?)
Originally Posted by MulhollandDrive
BUT double clutching doubles the wear and tear on your HIP JOINT! Dang. You guys (and girls) who are double clutching are risking premature hip disease. I mean is it worth it? 

Originally Posted by G35_TX
LOL! Take that dream and leave the site.
Originally Posted by 07TouringZ
Do we really need this sort of hostility? This thread started off as good discussion and ended with this sort of pettiness. Serious ego problems FTW. 

And "serious ego problems FTW".
I can see you are very new to the internet. But don't let that stop you from making random posts and trying to make peace among all.
Originally Posted by G35_TX
Okay, I will need to correct myself. I was thinking ahead of myself here. When you double clutch it actually never does it twice because its in neutral one of the times and the 2nd time it engages.
So it only wears onces.
http://www.boostaholic.com/revmatching.html
Good info.
So it only wears onces.
http://www.boostaholic.com/revmatching.html
Good info.
Originally Posted by G35_TX
Double clutching means you must press the clutch down twice. Means the clutch must adhere to the flywheel twice and have the material wear TWICE. Same goes for the throwout bearing and pressure plate. It is less wear on the Syncros than it is on those items. It is recommended and definitely not worth doing Double Clutching. Stop posting mis-information.
Originally Posted by Spoolin Z
HAHAHAHA
WTF are you talking about....
You just made my day with that post...wow....
WTF are you talking about....
You just made my day with that post...wow....
IF anything double clutching will put less wear on your clutch disk because you spin the clutch disk in neutral before it engages with the flywheel (going the same speed).
When you just downshift you have to slowly release the clutch so it can gradually increase in speed to compensate for the higher engine speed.
Last edited by Spoolin Z; Apr 29, 2007 at 07:00 PM.
Originally Posted by I1DER
I've been shaking my head so much at this thread, my gf thinks I've got a touch of Parkinson's Disease.
He Double Clutched but didnt mean too
Originally Posted by hardrock905
Wow....yeah. His post was like full of hatred and hostility.
And "serious ego problems FTW".
I can see you are very new to the internet. But don't let that stop you from making random posts and trying to make peace among all.
And "serious ego problems FTW".
I can see you are very new to the internet. But don't let that stop you from making random posts and trying to make peace among all.
Originally Posted by Spoolin Z
like I said before
You needed someone else to tell you were wrong because you'd hate to listen to a "noob" like me right....
IF anything double clutching will put less wear on your clutch disk because you spin the clutch disk in neutral before it engages with the flywheel (going the same speed).
When you just downshift you have to slowly release the clutch so it can gradually increase in speed to compensate for the higher engine speed.
You needed someone else to tell you were wrong because you'd hate to listen to a "noob" like me right....
IF anything double clutching will put less wear on your clutch disk because you spin the clutch disk in neutral before it engages with the flywheel (going the same speed).
When you just downshift you have to slowly release the clutch so it can gradually increase in speed to compensate for the higher engine speed.
And you oficially made yourself a noob on this site and a troll from having your firsts posts come a flame fest.
Originally Posted by 07TouringZ
I can see that you love having 1000 posts. But don't that keep you from missing the logic behind Spooling Z's argument.
Originally Posted by 07TouringZ
I can see that you love having 1000 posts. But don't that keep you from missing the logic behind Spooling Z's argument.
Sorry, but there is no logic behind Spoolin Z's arguement.
You must be a huge F&F fan yourself.
Originally Posted by hardrock905
It has nothing to do with my post count. It has everything to do with only using terminology that you are familiar with. "Losers FTW".
Sorry, but there is no logic behind Spoolin Z's arguement.
You must be a huge F&F fan yourself.
Sorry, but there is no logic behind Spoolin Z's arguement.
You must be a huge F&F fan yourself.
Don't let your ego get real big, because like we all said, its still not needed or required.
And you oficially made yourself a noob on this site and a troll from having your firsts posts come a flame fest.
And you oficially made yourself a noob on this site and a troll from having your firsts posts come a flame fest.
I didn't intend to come on here and start **** slinging, I just came to post some real information about the topic on hand.
My post count has nothing to do with my knowledge, as I have owned a couple cars prior to my Z
Originally Posted by Spoolin Z
Terminology like layshaft, input shaft and output shaft? they're all real terms....look them up if you want
I've also said its not needed and required, thats the job of the synchro. I've been saying that your synchros will do LESS work at no harm to other components in the drivetrain if you double clutch.
I didn't intend to come on here and start **** slinging, I just came to post some real information about the topic on hand.
My post count has nothing to do with my knowledge, as I have owned a couple cars prior to my Z
I've also said its not needed and required, thats the job of the synchro. I've been saying that your synchros will do LESS work at no harm to other components in the drivetrain if you double clutch.
I didn't intend to come on here and start **** slinging, I just came to post some real information about the topic on hand.
My post count has nothing to do with my knowledge, as I have owned a couple cars prior to my Z
The reason I won't rev match is I don't feel like blipping the throttle while holding down the clutch thus wearing the clutch out. I don't know about you guys but there isn't $600+ burning a hole in my pocket for a worn clutch replacement.
Originally Posted by hardrock905
It has nothing to do with my post count. It has everything to do with only using terminology that you are familiar with. "Losers FTW".
Sorry, but there is no logic behind Spoolin Z's arguement.
You must be a huge F&F fan yourself.
Sorry, but there is no logic behind Spoolin Z's arguement.
You must be a huge F&F fan yourself.
2. (not trying to be dick) because you do not understand the logic doesn't mean it isn't there. If you read Spooling Z's argument about d-c preventing a little stress on the syncros, and understand the concept, you can leave this thread with a little more understanding of the inner workings of a manual transmission, as I'm sure others have
This argument is pointless. You go with your method, and I'll go with mine; I think we can at least agree on the fact that the Z is a fantastic ride, and that getting a perfect rev-matched downshift right before a corner is oh-so-glorious.
Ok, so....
The moral of the story is...
Either way you choose to shift, your clutch and syncros will eventually go out.
It will be a long time. You have a few hundred thousand miles to save up.
The differences in wear are small, I would guess. Let's say you get an extra 5,000 miles out of your syncros... is it really so much worse to get 300,000 miles instead of 305,000?
I don't know much extra double-clutching will give you. Chances are, you're more likely to screw it up if you've never done it. And that's hurting your tranny more than either of the other two methods.
If it's worth it to you to get a little extra life out of an already long-living component - go for it.
Do you need to double-clutch? No.
Can you double-clutch? Yes.
Will it make a truely significant difference? Probably not.
Do what you find/think is the best. As long as you're not grinding the gears/riding the clutch/letting your syncros do all the high-RPM rev-matching themselves... you'll be fine.
If all else fails, just use your brakes. The pads are probably cheaper to replace
The moral of the story is...
Either way you choose to shift, your clutch and syncros will eventually go out.
It will be a long time. You have a few hundred thousand miles to save up.
The differences in wear are small, I would guess. Let's say you get an extra 5,000 miles out of your syncros... is it really so much worse to get 300,000 miles instead of 305,000?
I don't know much extra double-clutching will give you. Chances are, you're more likely to screw it up if you've never done it. And that's hurting your tranny more than either of the other two methods.
If it's worth it to you to get a little extra life out of an already long-living component - go for it.
Do you need to double-clutch? No.
Can you double-clutch? Yes.
Will it make a truely significant difference? Probably not.
Do what you find/think is the best. As long as you're not grinding the gears/riding the clutch/letting your syncros do all the high-RPM rev-matching themselves... you'll be fine.
If all else fails, just use your brakes. The pads are probably cheaper to replace
Originally Posted by Eazzzzzzy
Actually FTW was a term of the Haight-Ashbary Culture meaning Fukc The World
"Super egos FTW",
And I completely understand what Spoolin Z is trying to say, I just ain't buying it. Why because it's BS.
And here is the best part of 07TouringZ's post. He talks like he is actually Spoolin Z, lmao. He is the only other person in the entire thread that suddenly agrees with Spoolin. 07Touring only appeared to back up Spoolin after I pointed out to Spoolin that the only person that agreed with him was himself. Also check out the bold from his quote below.
Originally Posted by 07TouringZ
1. like I said, let's keep this aimed at the topic at hand, instead of vainly attempting to show us your "internet superiority" or whatever it is you are trying to accomplish (and I believe that "FTW" has been around for ages as a gaming term - not sure what you are trying to imply)
2. (not trying to be dick) because you do not understand the logic doesn't mean it isn't there. If you read Spooling Z's argument about d-c preventing a little stress on the syncros, and understand the concept, you can leave this thread with a little more understanding of the inner workings of a manual transmission, as I'm sure others have
This argument is pointless. You go with your method, and I'll go with mine; I think we can at least agree on the fact that the Z is a fantastic ride, and that getting a perfect rev-matched downshift right before a corner is oh-so-glorious.
2. (not trying to be dick) because you do not understand the logic doesn't mean it isn't there. If you read Spooling Z's argument about d-c preventing a little stress on the syncros, and understand the concept, you can leave this thread with a little more understanding of the inner workings of a manual transmission, as I'm sure others have
This argument is pointless. You go with your method, and I'll go with mine; I think we can at least agree on the fact that the Z is a fantastic ride, and that getting a perfect rev-matched downshift right before a corner is oh-so-glorious.
How desperate you are. You create an account to back up your other accounts BS.
IP check please!



