07 350Z vs 07 S2K vs 06 GTO. Opinions.
05-24-2007, 06:53 PM
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Okay tough guy. Yeah, I never said it could do 180 stock. I said it could do 180 with a tune. Its speed limited at 160. 5th gear, maxed out, 178 mph with a tune. Thats all I said, so chillout. A Z won't do 170 with a tune, let alone 178 or more.
My vin is JN1AZ34D...etc. EXCUSE ME for putting Z34 instead of Z33 lol. Want to pick at my spelling too?
Your numbers. On planet SOLO-350Z. No one elses.
Have a good day lol.
My vin is JN1AZ34D...etc. EXCUSE ME for putting Z34 instead of Z33 lol. Want to pick at my spelling too?
Your numbers. On planet SOLO-350Z. No one elses.
Have a good day lol.
05-24-2007, 07:02 PM
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Where did I say a Z was faster than a GTO?! WHERE?!
Oh yea I will say in response to what you said here: "The GTO will beat a Z substantially in the 1/4. High 12s all day long. " I said the 13.3 is faster than the gto in that post. But in the tests the GTO has shown it was faster other than that one 13.3 test. Also I said later it would be a drivers race and that is a fact.
Btw. GTO will only hit 12s on DR on a good day. It is a 13 sec car that is all. And it will NOT beat a Z (A 07 model) substantially like you dream.
Oh yea I will say in response to what you said here: "The GTO will beat a Z substantially in the 1/4. High 12s all day long. " I said the 13.3 is faster than the gto in that post. But in the tests the GTO has shown it was faster other than that one 13.3 test. Also I said later it would be a drivers race and that is a fact.
Btw. GTO will only hit 12s on DR on a good day. It is a 13 sec car that is all. And it will NOT beat a Z (A 07 model) substantially like you dream.
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05-24-2007, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Where did I say a Z was faster than a GTO?! WHERE?!
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
The GTO can barely do 13s. It's a boat. The Z can do 13.3 obviously for a 07 model. That is faster than a GTO!
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Btw. GTO will only hit 12s on DR on a good day. It is a 13 sec car that is all. And it will NOT beat a Z (A 07 model) substantially like you dream.
05-24-2007, 08:24 PM
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This thread would have been 3 pages if it weren't for the bickering 
The threads asking for car comparisons should just be banned, they always end up in pissing matches...
The threads asking for car comparisons should just be banned, they always end up in pissing matches...
05-24-2007, 09:32 PM
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No Contest
If you`re a Grandpa get the S-2000, if you like Cavaliers on redbull get the GTO,but if you're a sports car lover of today's generation and want a car to take pride in 350Z for life.
05-24-2007, 09:42 PM
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Quite honestly I got to agree with the dude that has the nice chick doing herself in his avatar...the LS2 06 GTO can hit high 12s without DRs. You can hit a 13.3, but thats what we call freak cars. There are some in the Speed6 community, that hit 13.4/13.5/13.6....and they are VERY few, but the average GOOD run is 13.8/14.0, an awesome run would be 13.7, the rest just involves crazy tire pressure play, spare tire removal, racing fuel, perfect altituted/location, perfect weather, etc. Plus not to mention there are some tracks that give out some crazy numbers out there.
The real power of the GTO kicks in after 3rd, cuz it has no traction on 1st and 2nd...the GTO does a 13.2 GOOD, the 07 Z does a 13.6 GOOD. Thats that. Give both slicks/DRs and I assure you the GTO will open that gap even more, meaning with less traction problems it will be able to hit lower number and take more advantage than the 07 Z of the slicks/DRs...but all this, is straight line racing only...Im by no means bias, but I do know my stuff. The GTO is too underrated, if you could do a 100mph roll on (nobody does but..just saying) in 6th gear, the GTO would start pulling right away like if it was 50mphs...
The GTO does around 170 something stock, that I have seen. Not 180. Maybe with a tune as someone said.
The real power of the GTO kicks in after 3rd, cuz it has no traction on 1st and 2nd...the GTO does a 13.2 GOOD, the 07 Z does a 13.6 GOOD. Thats that. Give both slicks/DRs and I assure you the GTO will open that gap even more, meaning with less traction problems it will be able to hit lower number and take more advantage than the 07 Z of the slicks/DRs...but all this, is straight line racing only...Im by no means bias, but I do know my stuff. The GTO is too underrated, if you could do a 100mph roll on (nobody does but..just saying) in 6th gear, the GTO would start pulling right away like if it was 50mphs...
The GTO does around 170 something stock, that I have seen. Not 180. Maybe with a tune as someone said.
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05-24-2007, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Karma_Hunden
Quite honestly I got to agree with the dude that has the nice chick doing herself in his avatar...the LS2 06 GTO can hit high 12s without DRs. You can hit a 13.3, but thats what we call freak cars. There are some in the Speed6 community, that hit 13.4/13.5/13.6....and they are VERY few, but the average GOOD run is 13.8/14.0, an awesome run would be 13.7, the rest just involves crazy tire pressure play, spare tire removal, racing fuel, perfect altituted/location, perfect weather, etc. Plus not to mention there are some tracks that give out some crazy numbers out there.
The real power of the GTO kicks in after 3rd, cuz it has no traction on 1st and 2nd...the GTO does a 13.2 GOOD, the 07 Z does a 13.6 GOOD. Thats that. Give both slicks/DRs and I assure you the GTO will open that gap even more, meaning with less traction problems it will be able to hit lower number and take more advantage than the 07 Z of the slicks/DRs...but all this, is straight line racing only...Im by no means bias, but I do know my stuff. The GTO is too underrated, if you could do a 100mph roll on (nobody does but..just saying) in 6th gear, the GTO would start pulling right away like if it was 50mphs...
The GTO does around 170 something stock, that I have seen. Not 180. Maybe with a tune as someone said.
The real power of the GTO kicks in after 3rd, cuz it has no traction on 1st and 2nd...the GTO does a 13.2 GOOD, the 07 Z does a 13.6 GOOD. Thats that. Give both slicks/DRs and I assure you the GTO will open that gap even more, meaning with less traction problems it will be able to hit lower number and take more advantage than the 07 Z of the slicks/DRs...but all this, is straight line racing only...Im by no means bias, but I do know my stuff. The GTO is too underrated, if you could do a 100mph roll on (nobody does but..just saying) in 6th gear, the GTO would start pulling right away like if it was 50mphs...
The GTO does around 170 something stock, that I have seen. Not 180. Maybe with a tune as someone said.
The 07, has only been out for a short time. With an average driver, non-agressive, it has hit 13.4's at 105. Im pretty sure, with an agressive driver it should hit 13.2's at 106. Mph tells the story. You are also forgeting, that the Z has independent suspension, which is harder to launch and harder to maintain consistant times. I agree, that the GTO might be a tad bit faster, but I will also go out on a limb and say, the 350z would stop the pull, as speeds increase.
05-24-2007, 11:19 PM
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I have to disagree. The GTO the higher it gets the faster compared to other cars...the part where the Z hangs close to the GTO is at the bottom...pass 100mph its all downhill from there. The GTO holds quite amazingly at high speeds. I have a friend that has an 06 GTO and a 600cc bike...he wanted to race both, so he made me drive the GTO and he would ride the bike. From a dig, it almost caught up. From a 20mph, I caught up around 110mph and started to passed him but didnt quite make it and just hung even till we stopped pulling, i kid you not.
05-25-2007, 12:03 AM
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GTO - Faster in that year by a little. I'd buy a Firebird at the lower weight. It looks better.
S2000 - Way to buzzy. 6K just to get pull. After you test drive it and a Z the Z will win your heart ....price and power.
What can I say.... Z is put together right. Nice balance, composed at every step. Handling awesome, power good, fun factor .... unbelievable.
Buy a Z and never look back.
S2000 - Way to buzzy. 6K just to get pull. After you test drive it and a Z the Z will win your heart ....price and power.
What can I say.... Z is put together right. Nice balance, composed at every step. Handling awesome, power good, fun factor .... unbelievable.
Buy a Z and never look back.
05-25-2007, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by turismo
The 07, has only been out for a short time. With an average driver, non-agressive, it has hit 13.4's at 105. Im pretty sure, with an agressive driver it should hit 13.2's at 106. Mph tells the story. You are also forgeting, that the Z has independent suspension, which is harder to launch and harder to maintain consistant times. I agree, that the GTO might be a tad bit faster, but I will also go out on a limb and say, the 350z would stop the pull, as speeds increase.
13.5 is about right for the 07's. You'll see some freak times drop lower, but - for example, with heat all I can trap is 103. My friend with an 06 traps 102 in the same conditions. Its midrange pull that wins that race.
The clutch issue drops my times maybe a tenth, and my good run had no slip in 2nd or 3rd.
05-25-2007, 04:17 AM
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God....you people are annoying me. 13.4 with a non-aggressive driver, I guess a 1.95 60' is ****ty, or that having the same driver that had the record for a stock time in an 03-06 take it again in 07 in better than perfect conditions also makes it non-aggressive.
13.5 is about right for the 07's. You'll see some freak times drop lower, but - for example, with heat all I can trap is 103. My friend with an 06 traps 102 in the same conditions. Its midrange pull that wins that race.
The clutch issue drops my times maybe a tenth, and my good run had no slip in 2nd or 3rd.
13.5 is about right for the 07's. You'll see some freak times drop lower, but - for example, with heat all I can trap is 103. My friend with an 06 traps 102 in the same conditions. Its midrange pull that wins that race.
The clutch issue drops my times maybe a tenth, and my good run had no slip in 2nd or 3rd.
And a GTO running 12s stock all day long is false. It will run 12s if the conditions are perfect and it has a perfect driver. But they are 13 sec cars.
05-25-2007, 04:57 AM
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Btw, thanks for the links even though I have been there. Maybe you should read it yourself. Because like I said and they are all saying. The GTO will not run 12s stock 95% of the time. There are factory freaks and the car might hit 12s stock every once in a while. Most of the stuff I said they also said. About it being a pig, overweight, etc.
If you read through a few of these topics you will see them saying this.
http://ls2gto.com/forums/showthread....=06+stock+drag
And this one no one believes because its just a too outrageous time. But again they say 13s the norm.
http://ls2gto.com/forums/showthread....=06+stock+drag
If you read through a few of these topics you will see them saying this.
http://ls2gto.com/forums/showthread....=06+stock+drag
And this one no one believes because its just a too outrageous time. But again they say 13s the norm.
http://ls2gto.com/forums/showthread....=06+stock+drag
05-25-2007, 05:00 AM
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I've witness a stock LS2 running 12.8 bone stock and I've ran my friend with the LS1 GTO and barely lost from a roll of about 15.
My friend has an LS1 GTO and tells me how the GTO's aren't the easiest to launch either.
I mean... all the talk about drag racing though, the real excitement is in the turns
My friend has an LS1 GTO and tells me how the GTO's aren't the easiest to launch either.
I mean... all the talk about drag racing though, the real excitement is in the turns
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My suggestion is to forget the GTO. While GM makes great engines and the cars are fast, everything else they put into the car is of poor quality. Replacing all of the little POS parts that GM uses will get old fast.
I'm biased towards the Z, but I dont think you could go wrong with the S2K. Honda makes quality cars. Personally, I prefer a fixed roof over a convertable top.
I'm biased towards the Z, but I dont think you could go wrong with the S2K. Honda makes quality cars. Personally, I prefer a fixed roof over a convertable top.
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Originally Posted by Peak350
God....you people are annoying me. 13.4 with a non-aggressive driver, I guess a 1.95 60' is ****ty, or that having the same driver that had the record for a stock time in an 03-06 take it again in 07 in better than perfect conditions also makes it non-aggressive.
13.5 is about right for the 07's. You'll see some freak times drop lower, but - for example, with heat all I can trap is 103. My friend with an 06 traps 102 in the same conditions. Its midrange pull that wins that race.
The clutch issue drops my times maybe a tenth, and my good run had no slip in 2nd or 3rd.
13.5 is about right for the 07's. You'll see some freak times drop lower, but - for example, with heat all I can trap is 103. My friend with an 06 traps 102 in the same conditions. Its midrange pull that wins that race.
The clutch issue drops my times maybe a tenth, and my good run had no slip in 2nd or 3rd.
Look at the links posted. They're only trapping 104-106mph, which is well in reach 0f an 07 Z.
05-25-2007, 08:38 AM
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2006 GTO - High 12 1/4 mile capability. Torque monster. Top end advantage.
2007 350Z - Low 13 1/4 mile capability. Definite advantage over last years. Purpose built road course car, with excellent handling and brakes. Z looks. Top end is improved, and was already impressive to begin with.
2007 S2000 - High 13 1/4 mile capability. Sharper feel to the handling. Honda build quality.
FWIW, the Z has a governor, which kicks in around 158-160. Without it last years would run in the 165-170 range, which is plenty fast. The 07 will get there quicker and is stronger on the top end, so I would assume it could eclipse 170 mph, without the governor.
The GTO will still get there a bit quicker though, with a horsepower and torque advantage.
I chose the Z for its overall performance and looks, which to me was the best all around performer, and a true sports car. The S2000 is a sports car, but it lacked the power, and especially torque to keep me interested. Size was an issue as well. The GTO is a blast to drive, and it has gobs of torque, which will easily roast the tires on any given occasion. I love the GTO, and the fit and finish was very good for a Pontiac. What I didn't care for as much was the extra weight it carries, and the looks are a little on the bland side. It's still a nice looking clean car though.
If you want a muscle car, which has the biggest horsepower potential, the GTO is the best choice.
If you want a sports car, which has excellent all around performance, the Z is the best choice, imo.
The 2007 does have a clutch issue though, and I will be taking mine in for a fix soon. On about 1 out of 3, from what I can tell, the clutch pedal will drop to the floor under power at times, due to what appears to be a design flaw. Nissan must address and fix this problem.
2007 350Z - Low 13 1/4 mile capability. Definite advantage over last years. Purpose built road course car, with excellent handling and brakes. Z looks. Top end is improved, and was already impressive to begin with.
2007 S2000 - High 13 1/4 mile capability. Sharper feel to the handling. Honda build quality.
FWIW, the Z has a governor, which kicks in around 158-160. Without it last years would run in the 165-170 range, which is plenty fast. The 07 will get there quicker and is stronger on the top end, so I would assume it could eclipse 170 mph, without the governor.
The GTO will still get there a bit quicker though, with a horsepower and torque advantage.
I chose the Z for its overall performance and looks, which to me was the best all around performer, and a true sports car. The S2000 is a sports car, but it lacked the power, and especially torque to keep me interested. Size was an issue as well. The GTO is a blast to drive, and it has gobs of torque, which will easily roast the tires on any given occasion. I love the GTO, and the fit and finish was very good for a Pontiac. What I didn't care for as much was the extra weight it carries, and the looks are a little on the bland side. It's still a nice looking clean car though.
If you want a muscle car, which has the biggest horsepower potential, the GTO is the best choice.
If you want a sports car, which has excellent all around performance, the Z is the best choice, imo.
The 2007 does have a clutch issue though, and I will be taking mine in for a fix soon. On about 1 out of 3, from what I can tell, the clutch pedal will drop to the floor under power at times, due to what appears to be a design flaw. Nissan must address and fix this problem.
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