Jabdo233

How is it ridiculous. Both scenarios are instances of law-breaking and they are both unsafe.

TheGest

Agreed we didnt buy sports cars to drive them like buicks.

TheGest

U think too much of your self

spf4000

So you're saying that it's equally unsafe to go 5-10 mph over the speed limit than it is to street race against someone, going 100 mph+ down stretches of residential or business roads, with two or more cars where the drivers are paying more attention to the car next to them than anything else happening on the road? Riiight. Great logic you got going there.

drivenCSZ

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streetracing FTL! i dont care who it is. i was unaware that this accident involved it. good thing he didnt take anyone else out.



i think the bashing about the other accicdent with pickle(or whomever) was compounded by the fact that he was driving with his gf in the car


if you're going to streetrace, do it where there's no other cars around and you and the other driver are the only one's that can die.

spf4000

^^ Or how about just taking it to the track?

Built2shredZ

John 8:7

I think a lot of people are quick to judge because it makes them feel better about themselves...

The guy made a bad decision and paid the ultimate price...

drivenCSZ

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well of course, ive got no problem with that. And it sounds like this guy did track his car. But apparently couldn't control himself enough on the street.

And snippets from articles citing witnesses who don't know cars very well, as saying "it seemed like they were racing" is always not beleivable. But its also pretty hard to flip your car, if youve got track experience and you're driving like you should be driving on the street.



it's sad for his family and kids, but if you throw gasoline on a small fire(ie the everyday risk of driving on a public road)....you might just get burnt.

mcurry5

Just because two things are illegal doesnt make them both as equally unsafe. Your logic on this topic is way way off. If you think going 60 mph in a 55 mph zone is the same as two cars racing down the street at speeds obviously way above the posted speed limit(ie... in a turn and losing control) then there is no way to have a discussion about this with you. You are severly close minded. Good Luck

kernel843

I have to agree, comparing street racing to speeding as far as how unsafe they are is kind of rediculous. If he was street racing, then I think he acted without thinking of all the consequences and of his family.

Personally, I don't street race. Thats not to say if i'm in one lane and my friend is in the other i might not floor it for the first few seconds, but otherwise I don't. Had numerous people want to race my on my bike and I have always declined, not worth the risk.

I think in the end, we should all just try to learn from the mistakes of others on this forum and let the deceased rest in peace. There is no need to tarnish the reputation of someone who has passed away.

thefranchise

i still cant believe in the year 2007 people cant figure out how to where a seat belt. no one should be suprised when you split your skull open and leak out your brains on the pavement when u get ejected from a crash they you'd probably would have walked away from

thefranchise

thank god he only took himself out and not some innocent family.

Jabdo233

What? So his life is not as important as some family's now?

I don't get what everyone's problem is on this thread.

thefranchise

if someone wants to drive reckless AND not wear a seatbelt and kill himself, i have no issue with that, its his choice. what would bother me is if while acting reckless, he kills or mangles another innocent person or family in his Darwinian act of self indulgence.

Zmazing03

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LOL @ that. I guess we have redefined street racing so that you can say you "haven't done it". I guess competing with your friend to see who can accelerate isn't racing. You floored it, it is clearly an intention of getting in front of him, lets be realistic here.

I won't say I have never streetraced, because I have, and a majority of the posters on this site have as well. But I ALWAYS wear my seatbelt, and whoever is in the car with me will as well, or they can get out. I am also not going to be racing with heavy traffic or bad weather, etc. If it isn't wide open road and sunny, it ain't happening.

spf4000

That's true, eye witness accounts are questionable at best. They may have assumed that he was street racing when he may have just been out on a spirited drive. Then again, spirited drives can be just as deadly.

Either way, the safest place for 8/10ths+ driving (or whatever you want to call racing/spirited driving) is on the track, and I hope these two guys' losses will serve as a reminder for the rest of us.

Vorais

Well, I personally take my life into my own hands many times in my life by enjoying some riskier activities at times, icluding skydiving, rock climbing, spleuncking, tracking my car, back country downhill skiing, motorcycle racing, etc. I personally had a very good chance of death pretty much ever day of my life due to a heart defect so I enjoyed my life and lived each day as if it could be my last. Things have changed in my life and I don't do most of these things anymore.

The deal is my family is well aware of what I do, or did. They also know that if I died while doing it that it was likely going to be my fault, and even if it wasn't (e.g. a random rock falls off the face of a cliff while I am climbing and smacks me in the head) I was playing with fire to begin with. They would not feel sorry for me in that regard or ask others to feel sorry for me. I do hope that they would feel sorry for my family though as they would still have to deal with the loss.

Part of the draw and excitement of doing these things is that there is some risk involved. I don't get how you guys can just say that we have to feel sorry for him because the took a risk one too many times and got burned. Feel sorry for his family, not him. Feel glad that he didn't take anyone else with him when he went. It was his choice to do what he did, no one forced him. Also if you knew him, remember him for his joy that he brought others, but don't except people to condone what he did or feel sorry for him.

ps. If he was hit by a drunk driver, or swerved to miss something in the road and flipped, or some other RANDOM accident, then yes, I would also feel sorry for him, but that was not the case.

350ZTheStandard

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so sorry to hear about a loss of human life!!! The facts are Kevin was street racing and paid the price for the thrill of being the man...was it worth the loss of life, can we take away the pain his parents & family feel and will continue to feel for a long time to come????

Lets compare apples to apples, both street racing, one 16 years old the other much older, seems like Kevin should have had more experience, more intelligence, more common sense. The houston article did not state if the 16 year old and girlfriend were wearing seat belts, my guess would be yes.... apples to apples why why Kevin not wearing his seat belt, I am sure it is a law in Florida, I know it is a law in my state

I did not know Kevin and should not have anything either bad or good to say but...everthing in life has a purpose.....If this horrible tradgey has just wised up a single person up to wearing a seatbelt while driving or riding in a car....this was the purpose...betting Kevins poor parents and family wear seat belts


RIP KEVIN

Electricchild

What the hell are you talking about? He didn't say anything about the value of one life over another. Would people stop putting words into each others' mouths?

Think of it this way. Would you rather have one person die in a car accident, or that same person + a whole family die in a car accident?

I think you'd choose the former. THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE.