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01-07-2008 | 08:58 PM
#61
Well I had to get rid of my Z a while back. I might be getting a z with in the next few days, so I'll see if we can invite some of the folks from work to the track. I never bad mouthed the civic and I don't really care about what car people drive. I like the z and that's that. I simply was asking a question from the z community and a little support. Anyways wish me luck with getting my z.
Cheers!
Cheers!
01-07-2008 | 09:29 PM
#62
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From: japan
Originally Posted by Scribl3
wow.. you losers need your car to pick up women? what a joke. i use to have a honda let me tell you, more reliable than a nissan anyday.Also, who said anything about a k20 motor anyways?Gsr motors can be just as strong for a fraction of the cost of a k20, and have more resources for parts. You people need to do your homework before you start bashing on other cars. Its a 350z not a Ferrari.We love our Z's just like they love their hondas. get over it!! And dont make the Z be an extension of your *****. Thats pathetic!!
+1 you guys drive 350zs not Ferraris. A B18c can be built up with forged internals, then throw on a 1200 dollar ebay turbo kit should be good for 350 +hp in a 2200 lb car. Not exactly the most reliable set up but still quite fast. Some of you guys sound about as informed as rednecks driving Pontiacs and Fords.
Last edited by skylin3R33; 01-07-2008 at 09:38 PM.
01-07-2008 | 09:34 PM
#63
some of those civics done right are no joke...I had a turbocharged K20A..he was practically gutted...he left me on the 15 N bound like I was stopped. Those things are light as fukk, plus theyre not that expensive to mod compared to our cars.
01-07-2008 | 09:37 PM
#64
Originally Posted by blackstealthz
You guys need to relax first of all theres not alot of people who can just say i think ill go buy a 350z the insurance alone on the Z is crazy.Plus to mod our cars is very expensive our cars are tuned so well already stock that its hard to achieve hp gains off simple bolt-ons and etc FI is our only way to see real gains and im sure there's not alot of Z owners who can just go and buy a tt set-up when ever they feel.I understand there's not alot of people who can afford a Z so they get other cars like civic hatch,integra,talon etc and they fix them up and with a simple motor swap and a few upgrades the car is very fast.I respect all cars and let me tell you there is a big difference in honda owners theres the ones who fix there cars up nice and respect other cars and then theres the ones who just throw a $50bodykit on and a fart can exhaust and try to race every fast looking car on the highway.And no the Z is not the best performing car in the world but for $30,000 your not gonna find a car with such nice lines and looks plus performance/handling for that price.Personally i think the Z opened up the american people's eyes specially when the 300zx tt came here it was giving the corvette at the time a run for their money.
+1 I had a K20 turbocharged EK dust me the other week on the 15. But yeah even those GSR powered civics are FAST AS ****!
01-07-2008 | 10:01 PM
#65
Originally Posted by Z_rican
I need a little help.
I got some guys at work that keep telling me that if you have a hatch back civic and a Z, both cars have a $5000.00 buget to spend on mods, they say that the civic will win. I'm out numberd 6 to 1 and these guys have fully built evos and 240s turboed cars. I'm the only z guy here.
They say that they can get a used engine ls for like $ 500 and turbo the car and rape a z with 5 grand.
My argument is that I'll get a used turbo kit boost to 420 or to 450 to the wheels.
Do you guys think that a civic with a 5 grand budget will rape a z with a 5 grand budget?
Sorry for the spelling and punctuation I typed this in a hurry with a bunch of guys talkingchit in the background
Thanks
I got some guys at work that keep telling me that if you have a hatch back civic and a Z, both cars have a $5000.00 buget to spend on mods, they say that the civic will win. I'm out numberd 6 to 1 and these guys have fully built evos and 240s turboed cars. I'm the only z guy here.
They say that they can get a used engine ls for like $ 500 and turbo the car and rape a z with 5 grand.
My argument is that I'll get a used turbo kit boost to 420 or to 450 to the wheels.
Do you guys think that a civic with a 5 grand budget will rape a z with a 5 grand budget?
Sorry for the spelling and punctuation I typed this in a hurry with a bunch of guys talkingchit in the background
Thanks
So, your friends are right on .... but, at what cost down the road. I've barely beat out one of these Monster Ricers at the track with my 650HP 67 Camaro.
I wasn't too shocked after looking at the motor.
It was funny, I saw the motor prior to the race. All his buddy at the starting line. 12" Front slicks ... primer grey. Turbo 4 banger with fenderwell custom header. They were all laughing like I didn't know what was coming.
I gave them props and beat them ..... not by much. maybe a hood length.
I'm now in the process of installing the 800HP motor in mine.
Hey, racing tech has come a long way. Our Z's are nice cars but, for a drag car you can build much better for a lot less. IMO The Z makes for a great sports car / economy car. For a race car .... Pretty good ... but, there are better race cars out there.
EVO - STI's are low cost road racers.
Camaros / Mustangs are low cost drag racers...... I'd even venture to say EVO - STI - HONDA are competitive at the drags. Z's OK for a hobby drag or bracket racing ... but, the fastest.... they are not. Unless of course you spend 30K plus the price of the car imo. Money can solve a lot of problems... ;-)
01-07-2008 | 10:02 PM
#66
Originally Posted by Z_Driver
The Honda guys are know for taking a motor and three grand to produce 750+ HP. The only problem my motor builder says is he sees them every six months with a new block to build stating.... Any way to build it so it won't blow up. He just laughs and explains there just isn't enough meat there.
So, your friends are right on .... but, at what cost down the road. I've barely beat out one of these Monster Ricers at the track with my 650HP 67 Camaro.
I wasn't too shocked after looking at the motor.
It was funny, I saw the motor prior to the race. All his buddy at the starting line. 12" Front slicks ... primer grey. Turbo 4 banger with fenderwell custom header. They were all laughing like I didn't know what was coming.
I gave them props and beat them ..... not by much. maybe a hood length.
I'm now in the process of installing the 800HP motor in mine.
Hey, racing tech has come a long way. Our Z's are nice cars but, for a drag car you can build much better for a lot less. IMO The Z makes for a great sports car / economy car. For a race car .... Pretty good ... but, there are better race cars out there.
EVO - STI's are low cost road racers.
Camaros / Mustangs are low cost drag racers...... I'd even venture to say EVO - STI - HONDA are competitive at the drags. Z's OK for a hobby drag or bracket racing ... but, the fastest.... they are not.
So, your friends are right on .... but, at what cost down the road. I've barely beat out one of these Monster Ricers at the track with my 650HP 67 Camaro.
I wasn't too shocked after looking at the motor.
It was funny, I saw the motor prior to the race. All his buddy at the starting line. 12" Front slicks ... primer grey. Turbo 4 banger with fenderwell custom header. They were all laughing like I didn't know what was coming.
I gave them props and beat them ..... not by much. maybe a hood length.
I'm now in the process of installing the 800HP motor in mine.
Hey, racing tech has come a long way. Our Z's are nice cars but, for a drag car you can build much better for a lot less. IMO The Z makes for a great sports car / economy car. For a race car .... Pretty good ... but, there are better race cars out there.
EVO - STI's are low cost road racers.
Camaros / Mustangs are low cost drag racers...... I'd even venture to say EVO - STI - HONDA are competitive at the drags. Z's OK for a hobby drag or bracket racing ... but, the fastest.... they are not.
post pics of the camaro ?
01-07-2008 | 10:11 PM
#67
Originally Posted by Tubbs
Really? I thought the 240z,260z,280z, and 300z did a good job of paving the way...you know... for the 350z. Also, I believe the miata did more for japanese sports cars in the last 15 years than any other. And, newsflash.. Honda doesn't really care about young ricers who can only afford 15 year old civics.
Everytime I go to NISSAN Dealer there is something new from NISMO out.
This is not to say NISSAN has a better aftermarket.... It doesn't HONDA does.
01-07-2008 | 10:15 PM
#68
Originally Posted by Reyes_USN
post pics of the camaro ?
If your interested .... Here's the new motor going in:
My point is there is trade off in racing. I just like my motor to stay together.
I wouldn't like to take a piston to the gut someday. That wouldn't be good
Some old picture before teardown:
Street Legal Trim:
Old Motor 650HP:
Interior - Will be upgraded with Computer Dia and DVD Engine Management Monitoring. New gauges etc... Can hardly wait to install them.
Last edited by Z_Driver; 01-07-2008 at 10:21 PM.
01-08-2008 | 11:23 PM
#69
Originally Posted by Z_Driver
Is that a request ... Or, are you wondering why I did that? I did it to prove I'm not a poser.
If your interested .... Here's the new motor going in:
My point is there is trade off in racing. I just like my motor to stay together.
I wouldn't like to take a piston to the gut someday. That wouldn't be good
Some old picture before teardown:
Street Legal Trim:
Old Motor 650HP:
Interior - Will be upgraded with Computer Dia and DVD Engine Management Monitoring. New gauges etc... Can hardly wait to install them.
If your interested .... Here's the new motor going in:
My point is there is trade off in racing. I just like my motor to stay together.
I wouldn't like to take a piston to the gut someday. That wouldn't be good
Some old picture before teardown:
Street Legal Trim:
Old Motor 650HP:
Interior - Will be upgraded with Computer Dia and DVD Engine Management Monitoring. New gauges etc... Can hardly wait to install them.
lol you got what I meant, I wanted to see pics
thats awesome man!
01-10-2008 | 11:55 AM
#71
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From: San Diego
Gutted CRX's are usually the fastest in Auto-X around the track, they are like go karts. A hatch with a K20 motor + K24 Head will do 12.2 bone stock, so unfortunately with $5k, the civic would be faster Quarter Mile or around the track.
01-10-2008 | 01:10 PM
#72
i agree that the Z is put to better use for Drift racing or road racing, if you want to spend the money to be the fastest drag racer, go with a camaro, uni-bodies like our Z's just cant take the stress, get something with a frame, then you will be in business.
i would have to say that there is no way to practically take a Z and a Civic on a 5k spending limit and make the civic faster than the Z
the Z has more Displacement, nuff said
i would have to say that there is no way to practically take a Z and a Civic on a 5k spending limit and make the civic faster than the Z
the Z has more Displacement, nuff said
01-10-2008 | 03:46 PM
#73
You know it would be cool for someone to buy one of each and try this. NOS or whatever ... smog not an issue and track them. I'd bet you could build a Z motor to about 900HP..... but, then it would explode like that 750HP civic. Where's the fun in that? It's not like you can buy a Z motor for $300-500 and turn the trick. I think your looking at $1500 to start on a Z motor....
Don't know.... could it be done ???? Very interesting question.
Don't know.... could it be done ???? Very interesting question.
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