04 Track vs 07 Z
I think its sooo funny how all the older Z owners hate on the 07's sooo badly. They are ugly, they are slow, they have 7 or so ft lbs less tq, they are heavy.
Jesus crackers. The arguements are pitiful, but if it makes you feel better, enjoy looking stupid
Jesus crackers. The arguements are pitiful, but if it makes you feel better, enjoy looking stupid
Originally Posted by marques1
I,M STILL WAITING FOR AN ANSWER TO MY ABOVE POST, SOMEONE THANKS!
As you can see if you have a very good manual driver and very good auto driver the difference is very minimal actually the race would look like a tie if you were spectating the race. The 6 speed is a little faster by very little with two good drivers as you can see above. Also consider the 6 speed was a base and the auto was a heavy *** touring model im sure he could of made the difference in time up with taking those heavy *** seats out and speaker. I would like for someone to show me some factual evidence that the 6 speed is so much faster with two very good drivers please. If you ask me the only person that should be able to talk about slow auto z should be veteec since he is the only driver that is able to beat the fastest auto z stock time.
As you can see if you have a very good manual driver and very good auto driver the difference is very minimal actually the race would look like a tie if you were spectating the race. The 6 speed is a little faster by very little with two good drivers as you can see above. Also consider the 6 speed was a base and the auto was a heavy *** touring model im sure he could of made the difference in time up with taking those heavy *** seats out and speaker. I would like for someone to show me some factual evidence that the 6 speed is so much faster with two very good drivers please. If you ask me the only person that should be able to talk about slow auto z should be veteec since he is the only driver that is able to beat the fastest auto z stock time.
FASTEST STOCK TIMES FOR 03-06 Z 1/4 MILE TIMES:
(1) MIVEC --------------------------04 Base 6spd 10.640@128.42mph 1.983 60ft Verified
(2) B0bBy --------------------------- 03 Tour Auto 20.667@76.57mph 1.996 60ft VerifiED
SWEET!
*rolls eyes*
jim
illjim69 they are not made up numbers i just copied and pasted them from 1/4 mile times and they are verified dumb *** not made up. If you noticed vettec has the fastest 07 6 speed time so far and the fastest auto time also. I have more than one vehicle and all my cars arent auto either tard. May i ask what your fastest time is at the track so far since your 6 speed is so fast and so furious.
here is all the made up times everyone: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....2F4+mile+times
lol you fkin newb
here is all the made up times everyone: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....2F4+mile+times
lol you fkin newb
Last edited by marques1; Sep 20, 2007 at 09:28 AM.
pm performance i agree the 07's are faster i live in reality unlike some of the people on here but i think you might be wrong about your torque numbers anyhow. Im just talking to liljim about auto vs manual because he just talks and has no information to prove his points unlike me. I like manuals and auto's people should just be thankful they can afford a damn car instead of saying my car can do this and that and then misleads people to believe false information.
Originally Posted by marques1
illjim69 they are not made up numbers i just copied and pasted them from 1/4 mile times and they are verified dumb *** not made up. If you noticed vettec has the fastest 07 6 speed time so far and the fastest auto time also. I have more than one vehicle and all my cars arent auto either tard. May i ask what your fastest time is at the track so far since your 6 speed is so fast and so furious.
here is all the made up times everyone: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....2F4+mile+times
lol you fkin newb
here is all the made up times everyone: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....2F4+mile+times
lol you fkin newb
quit crying already. nobody cares fella, that is why nobody answered you. besides, i tend to shy away from taking someone seriously when they refer to other people who disagree or have different tastes as "haterz". nobody is "hating" you stupid clown shoe. we are stating facts. the OP wanted to know what was up, everyone told him the reasons why he won and that the outcome would be different versus a 6spd, mainly due to an extra 900rpms in the higher end of the power band for each gear.
now, go get mommy to dry your eyes out and put a band aid on your boo boo.
jim
i was not even talking about the 07 z i know its faster liljim. I was stating the facts that people said that it was an auto and that is why he got beat so bad in reality that is not why. Just because its a auto first of all does not mean you can drive the car good just like a manual their is more than just slamming the gas pedal to the ground believe it or not. Please post your track times up for me so we can compare otherwise just shut the hell up. Im not the fastest driver in the world and dont pretend to be but im ok. So we will see how my auto compares to your manual lol. I AGREE KIW. lILJIM WHAT FACTS ARE YOU STATING I JUST POSTED THEM FOR YOU WHERE IS YOUR PROOF NO TRACK TIMES NO NOTHING JUST TALKING OUT OF YOUR ***. iM NOT SURE IF YOU EVEN KNOW IF YOUR CAR TAKES OIL OR NOT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
Last edited by marques1; Sep 20, 2007 at 09:41 AM.
Originally Posted by marques1
but i think you might be wrong about your torque numbers anyhow. .
2003-2005 287@274tq
2007 306@268tq
07 is 19hp more and 6ft lbs less tq.
Everyone brings up tq and weight because they have nothing better to argue about.
I haven't looked at side by side dynos to see the power bands, but 6ft lbs of tq doesn't mean jack to me. The weight might be a diff story though. but I am sure its not as extensive as others make it to be.
This crap goes on once a day. Its old and stupid. They have nothing better to comment on, so lets make fun of the hood. lol
Wow some people here are delusional.
The 07 will stomp out any previous Z in a straight line without a doubt This started to happen in the 06 when they changed the engine to 30% different and now with the HR its 80 % different
The 04-05(non anniversary) will not beat a 06 revup motor top end
and the 06 revup stock will not beat a HR unless driver error lack of skills enable. Its the progression of HP and technologies fellas. You can be in denial all you want. I had a 287 and now a revup and driven a HR. And its the progression of power being had earlier or later and just more of it .
The 07 will stomp out any previous Z in a straight line without a doubt This started to happen in the 06 when they changed the engine to 30% different and now with the HR its 80 % different
The 04-05(non anniversary) will not beat a 06 revup motor top end
and the 06 revup stock will not beat a HR unless driver error lack of skills enable. Its the progression of HP and technologies fellas. You can be in denial all you want. I had a 287 and now a revup and driven a HR. And its the progression of power being had earlier or later and just more of it .
Originally Posted by PM-Performance
I dunno about autos, but the numbers I get are
2003-2005 287@274tq
2007 306@268tq
07 is 19hp more and 6ft lbs less tq.
Everyone brings up tq and weight because they have nothing better to argue about.
I haven't looked at side by side dynos to see the power bands, but 6ft lbs of tq doesn't mean jack to me. The weight might be a diff story though. but I am sure its not as extensive as others make it to be.
This crap goes on once a day. Its old and stupid. They have nothing better to comment on, so lets make fun of the hood. lol
2003-2005 287@274tq
2007 306@268tq
07 is 19hp more and 6ft lbs less tq.
Everyone brings up tq and weight because they have nothing better to argue about.
I haven't looked at side by side dynos to see the power bands, but 6ft lbs of tq doesn't mean jack to me. The weight might be a diff story though. but I am sure its not as extensive as others make it to be.
This crap goes on once a day. Its old and stupid. They have nothing better to comment on, so lets make fun of the hood. lol
bblover and pm perfomance we are i guess the only sensible people on this thread and maybe a few others. I have a 03 and i wont go as far as saying my 03 is faster than the 07 and i have some mods. liljim is just a tard he has not even figured out yet that we have a 1/4 mile thread so when i post the numbers he said i made them up lol. LIL JIM IF YOU WANT TO BELIEVE IT OR NOT THE 6 SPEED AND THE AUTO ARE VERY VERY CLOSE IN PERFORMANCE WITH 2 VERY GOOD DRIVERS. THE 6 SPEED WILL BE A LIL FASTER BUT ONLY BY ABOUT A FRONT BUMPER IF THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. NOW I WOULDN'T DARE TRY TO RACE A MANUAL IN THE CURVES I KNOW BETTER BUT IN A STRAIGHT LINE YOU HAVE A RACE ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. i SO WISH I COULD POST UP SOME OF MY VIDEOS FOR YOU LIL JIM.
Last edited by marques1; Sep 20, 2007 at 09:50 AM.
I agree, the auto will pull a little power, but nothing major. i dont know why people think autos are slow.
Most of the faster 1/4 mile cars out there are autos.
Whats that say? Actually in many worlds the autos are much faster then the 6spd cars. Take Supras for example. The autos they put in there are just more stoudt and more consistantly faster cars
Most of the faster 1/4 mile cars out there are autos.
Whats that say? Actually in many worlds the autos are much faster then the 6spd cars. Take Supras for example. The autos they put in there are just more stoudt and more consistantly faster cars
Oh bye the way i would have made the best 25 stock times in the 1/4 mile for 03-06 z's with my auto touring model and that was the first time i have ever gone to a drag strip in my life and i have not been back since because it is to far from my house. I did not make the cut though because of my aftermarket wheels which are 19inch stern which weight 28lbs each so they slowed me down quite a bit so please stop talking. Im i a good driver no im ok but not bad. i like manuals and auto's sometimes i wish i had a manual so i could drive in the twisties a little more but performance wise its pretty equal in the straights and the more power you put down the better you will be in the auto.
Last edited by marques1; Sep 20, 2007 at 09:58 AM.
why would the 04 track be heavier than a 04 or 03 touring? The track model is a stripped down version of the other z's with lighter wheels and everything. The grand touring is the heaviest model if you are not including the convertibles.
The automatics in the 350z are actually really good 1/4 wise with there perfomance compared to the manual as compared to the competetion of sports cars in its genre. They suck with boost from what i seen. And bar none the 6mt will beat out a auto every time if shifted properly.Whoever doesnt think so ,ask yourself why wouldnt it LMAO .And On a road race course they are obsolutly horrid. Not being able to actaully control ur rpm range especially when in need of heal toe shifting is the major down fall of any auto matic transmission.
I dont understand why would 03 or any previous Z will say they can honeslty beat a 07 Z. Not only did you only beat a driver, but ur lying to urself.
I dont understand why would 03 or any previous Z will say they can honeslty beat a 07 Z. Not only did you only beat a driver, but ur lying to urself.
what also people forget to mention is when you are racing a auto z you are not racing the same exact setup. For one the auto z has taller gearing which affects acceleration but the same gearing in a auto z and you will see the auto z will win most of the time. The throttle body only opens up partially during a launch on a auto unlike the manual which opens up all the way, we get retuned so that the auto's throttle body opens up fully im not sure if you know this or not. So if you ask me the auto is doing super good if the times are that close to each other with taller gearing which can make a good difference and the throttle body.
As far as the auto turbo z's they are getting better they have alot of transmission upgrades that hold the high torque numbers a turbo setup produces i believe fcon thats not his screen name but somewhat close i think have already done this and he is running i believe 500whp+ so the (auto) will be fast believe me they are just starting the transmission uprgrades for them. actually i think i might get people opinions in another thread on this subject for more info.
As far as the auto turbo z's they are getting better they have alot of transmission upgrades that hold the high torque numbers a turbo setup produces i believe fcon thats not his screen name but somewhat close i think have already done this and he is running i believe 500whp+ so the (auto) will be fast believe me they are just starting the transmission uprgrades for them. actually i think i might get people opinions in another thread on this subject for more info.
the 07 hood is gross...thats why i bought an 06 touring...saved me some cash and can upgrade with an mrev2 and MD +5/16th and prob be as fast as an 07...i'm hating on the 07 solely because it doesn't look good
Originally Posted by marques1
why would the 04 track be heavier than a 04 or 03 touring? The track model is a stripped down version of the other z's with lighter wheels and everything. The grand touring is the heaviest model if you are not including the convertibles.
Track: 3225
Touring: 3247
Performance: 3217
Enthusiast: 3197
Base: 3188
(Oh, by the way, these were all for 04's) And I also meant that I thought the 04 track model was the heaviest trim for that year. But it's slightly lighter than the Touring.


