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Old 11-24-2007, 09:00 AM
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Just curious whats the difference from the base to an enthusiast in the 2004 world of the Z? I did have a carfax done but I was more intrested in the time for it to match VIN numbers and to see if there was any kind of accident work done. So what would be the difference in the 04....thank!
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Old 11-24-2007, 09:16 AM
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So i guess its too late to complain that they false advertised the car huh? I am really curious about that car fax and what they said...
Old 11-24-2007, 09:21 AM
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It's not uncommon to see Z's mis-listed. Sometimes it works to your benefit (buying a touring listed as a enthusiast) and sometimes it goes the other way. It never hurts to complain, you might get something out fo them for the trouble.
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yea i saved the ad on cars.com in a pdf. I love the car and all and I got a good price if it was an enthusiast but being a base i got the asking price that edmunds shows. Any ideas what to say...? This was a nissan dealer too
Old 11-24-2007, 10:23 AM
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A Nissan dealer should definately know the difference in trim levels... Sounds like false advertising with intent to me... Maybe try to get a warranty out of it?
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It would help if you have us more details. I assume you bought a car listed as an Enthusiast but are now suspecting it's a base model. What makes you think it's a base?
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Complete specifications for each year and each model can be found here: http://www.nissanhelp.com/.
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Originally Posted by banshee
A Nissan dealer should definately know the difference in trim levels... Sounds like false advertising with intent to me... Maybe try to get a warranty out of it?
Yes thats what I got when I went in, which was included in the price.

I have a 2004, 6 speed, cloth, no HIDS, no buttons for TCS or anything like that. No steering wheel controls for volume. From what I read on here I should have a TCS button right?
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No HIDs would indicate Base. There were no steering wheel controls for radio in 2004, the only controls you would have had were for Cruise. If you don't have them, then it's definitely a Base. Enthusiast would definitely have TCS, lack of the switch again indicates Base.
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So any ideas what I can do to fix this? Ill have to i guess sort it out with the dealer and then if not go to Nissan USA and see what they say.
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Originally Posted by phat04350z
So any ideas what I can do to fix this? Ill have to i guess sort it out with the dealer and then if not go to Nissan USA and see what they say.
You are in a tricky situation.

You looked at the car before you bought it. Nothing was hidden from you. You could file a suit in small claims court. You would have to show that the dealership intentionally misrepresented the car.

Does your contact say “Enthusiast?”

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Originally Posted by davidv
You are in a tricky situation.

You looked at the car before you bought it. Nothing was hidden from you. You could file a suit in small claims court. You would have to show that the dealership intentionally misrepresented the car.

Does your contact say “Enthusiast?”

Typically you take a dealerships word on a model, I have never had to second guess that especially a dealer that makes that car.

You are smart though with checking paperwork! Under model it just says 350Z or 350Z Coupe. Ill have to make a post and see if anyone has a carfax account and can do a lookup for me.

Is the census that I have a base though?
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From when I ran a free carfax just typing in the VIN # I got
Year/Make/Model: 2004 NISSAN 350Z
Body Style: COUPE
Engine Type: 3.5L V6 SFI DOHC 24V
Manufactured In: JAPAN
Search Results: 12 records found in our database

I doubt it will specify the make of the car... or are you sure.
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Carfax works off of the VIN and there is nothing in the VIN to identify the trim level (model). You're buying a used car based on the "what you see is what you get" concept. You had the opportunity to examine it and decide if it was a good deal or not.

All that being said, you might have some leverage with the dealership based on the misrepresentation of the vehicle. You have to have something in writing though. You can't work from "the salesman told me it was an Enthusiast". If they want to make you happy and treat you right, you might be able to get something out of them. Otherwise, the deal is done and unless you have a three day recision period, there's nothing much you can do. As others have suggested, a lawsuit, but again, if there's nothing in writing, you have no case.
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The only thing i have is an add on cars.com in a PDF format. I wonder if I bring that in and speak to a manager what they can do.
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Check the fine print, it may say something to the effect " not responsible for mistakes or incorrect listings".
Old 11-25-2007, 09:37 AM
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It just says cars.com is not reponsible, the poster is. In this case the dealer. I will print it out tomorrow at work and then if i have time drive to see them and see what they say.
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