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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 05:48 AM
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Arizona probalby has similar laws to new jersey, basically when someone does something to your property you are not allowed to touch them, no matter what. Example, if your house is being robbed, you are not allowed to touch the person robbing your house. Times have changed, I'm going for my law degree, and so far all of my classes have shown me one thing, America's law system is stupid. We can sue over some dumb ****, it's crazy, and kind of embarassing that criminals can sue when they're breaking the law, and sometimes make more money when they sue.
Blame your state not America. In Texas if someone brakes into your house you can shoot them no ?;s asked. Same deal if they break into your car. Think Louisiana has this same law.
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 06:15 AM
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why did he throw a wrench at you?

and since when do illegals have any rights? I thought you could basically murder them and not get in trouble for it.
Ahhh asking the ultra liberals out there who fight tooth and nail so an illegal can sue the pants off you. They have rights too

See stories like this make me sick!
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 06:25 AM
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Ahhh asking the ultra liberals out there who fight tooth and nail so an illegal can sue the pants off you. They have rights too

See stories like this make me sick!
I'll see your vomit and raise you 2 pukes!
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 06:59 AM
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haha dang...
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueBoxer
Well, local law enforcement, well for that matter any law enforcement agent/officer who has not passed the training/academy for immigration enforcement cannot determine alienage let alone deport them. Also, most are too overworked to the point where they do not bother to hassle with doing turn overs to Customs and Border Protection. Unfortunately, a lot of illegal immigrants do get busted for DUI (multiple times) and drug use or dealing before they finally get deported.

However, illegal immigrant, tourist, or US citizens all have equal rights and protection in terms of the law. That is why so many people want to live here, individuals are given equal protection under the law. Please don't think this means they should have equal access to social security, medical care, etc...

More than likely the judge will drop the charges against you and give the guy some minimal time (days in the county jail) and probation without ever even considering turning him over to immigration officials. I would definately get an attorney just in case.
It's possible assuming he IS an illegal that this constitutes what is known as an "Immigration Felony". I'm from the UK, and am here legally on a work visa - working towards Green Card status.

However, until you become a citizen, there are many crimes that would warrant misdemeanor status in a normal person, that count as an "Immigration Felony" for anyone on a Green Card or below (including illegals I think).

Basically this gives the US the opportunity to deport someone for what could be a minor crime (few days in jail and a fine).

It all depends though if he is checked for his status, which may happen if he's being charged on something - so I would push all you can to check that.

As many other posters have said, it's a shame you are not in Texas the "Castle" law is freaking awesome, it is bad down here from time to time, but at least you know you can pop someone that is threatening your life without fear of the liberals biting your ***.
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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Wow~ Shoulda called ol' Chucky boy to the rescue.
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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I Mess with Texas because Texas Messes with me. I threw a wrench at the Alamo last week

Come on guys, I live in Texas, and found that hilarious....#1 qoute of the thread! Winner!
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by gothchick
Wow~ Shoulda called ol' Chucky boy to the rescue.
Gothchick, as long as you mean Chuck Norris and it wasn't a typo for me I'm for that... LOL

I couldn't beat up a fly...

Shoot them with a .40 cal sure... not very chucky though
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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Come on guys, I live in Texas, and found that hilarious....#1 qoute of the thread! Winner!

Ya, it was funny... but we don't want to give him an ego. He's already enough of an ass.
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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Wow~ Shoulda called ol' Chucky boy to the rescue.
Fckin' priceless...
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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WTH is up with all this racism against hispanics because im almost positive he was hispanic because everyone thinks that only hispanics are illegal...We are not stupid if he was illegal he wouldnt want to attract attention to him self so if he threw a wrench u provoked him. and i freaking swear this forum is filled with people who dont hesitate to freaking start that damn illegal this damn beaner that....blah blah blah damn!!! we as a working class do the jobs u dont want to do so next time ur like damn illegal remember ur lawn is nice cuz we probably cut it. ur house is clean cuz we probably cleaned it. ur house is built because we were there working for less than minimum wage so u can sell the house for thousands and u can make money and buy ur damn Z.....ok im done
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jetnoirZ
WTH is up with all this racism against hispanics because im almost positive he was hispanic because everyone thinks that only hispanics are illegal...We are not stupid if he was illegal he wouldnt want to attract attention to him self so if he threw a wrench u provoked him. and i freaking swear this forum is filled with people who dont hesitate to freaking start that damn illegal this damn beaner that....blah blah blah damn!!! we as a working class do the jobs u dont want to do so next time ur like damn illegal remember ur lawn is nice cuz we probably cut it. ur house is clean cuz we probably cleaned it. ur house is built because we were there working for less than minimum wage so u can sell the house for thousands and u can make money and buy ur damn Z.....ok im done
Wow, would have thought all that work would have gotten you more than a Z . You seem alil upset, what are you going to do about it?
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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Im actually a pretty good fighter, I could have beat him to death if I wanted to. I thought I was doing the right thing just keeping him at the scene, guess I was wrong, should have beaten him good and left...

BTW Just got my car back today, looks ok I guess. I'm slowly learning it's just a car and can't stay perfect forever.
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jetnoirZ
WTH is up with all this racism against hispanics because im almost positive he was hispanic because everyone thinks that only hispanics are illegal...We are not stupid if he was illegal he wouldnt want to attract attention to him self so if he threw a wrench u provoked him. and i freaking swear this forum is filled with people who dont hesitate to freaking start that damn illegal this damn beaner that....blah blah blah damn!!! we as a working class do the jobs u dont want to do so next time ur like damn illegal remember ur lawn is nice cuz we probably cut it. ur house is clean cuz we probably cleaned it. ur house is built because we were there working for less than minimum wage so u can sell the house for thousands and u can make money and buy ur damn Z.....ok im done
#1, go home,
#2 Mexico is a country so you CANNOT be racist against Mexicans.
#3 Most illegals are criminals and are scum that even Mexico doesn't want.
#4 Mexico is actually a nice place to live if you have a skillset and just don't build fences.
#5 In the 50's when America saw a huge drop in LEGAL immigration we were fine. Construction is a good proud job so don't go saying "illegals do the work we don't want to"

You will never change my mind that illegals should not just GTFO

But thats not what this thread was about in any way. It was about me getting screwed for no reason and me wanting to vent about it. No one forced you to read this thread or respond to it.
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jetnoirZ
WTH is up with all this racism against hispanics because im almost positive he was hispanic because everyone thinks that only hispanics are illegal...We are not stupid if he was illegal he wouldnt want to attract attention to him self so if he threw a wrench u provoked him. and i freaking swear this forum is filled with people who dont hesitate to freaking start that damn illegal this damn beaner that....blah blah blah damn!!! we as a working class do the jobs u dont want to do so next time ur like damn illegal remember ur lawn is nice cuz we probably cut it. ur house is clean cuz we probably cleaned it. ur house is built because we were there working for less than minimum wage so u can sell the house for thousands and u can make money and buy ur damn Z.....ok im done
Don't forget to tell everyone that your country's social services are in shambles because illegals keep using them up but not paying INTO it (i.e. not paying taxes). Note, I am talking against illegals, regardless of ethnicity... I am not singling out any one race/ethnicity.

And the OP has still yet to explain how he knew the person who threw the wrench was illegal.

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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 04:35 AM
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WTH is up with all this racism against hispanics because im almost positive he was hispanic because everyone thinks that only hispanics are illegal...We are not stupid if he was illegal he wouldnt want to attract attention to him self so if he threw a wrench u provoked him. and i freaking swear this forum is filled with people who dont hesitate to freaking start that damn illegal this damn beaner that....blah blah blah damn!!! we as a working class do the jobs u dont want to do so next time ur like damn illegal remember ur lawn is nice cuz we probably cut it. ur house is clean cuz we probably cleaned it. ur house is built because we were there working for less than minimum wage so u can sell the house for thousands and u can make money and buy ur damn Z.....ok im done
No one is saying that hispanics are the only illegals - there are procedures in order for an immigrant to be a citizen in this country the LEGAL way, and illegals take the easy way out, break the laws, and come in anyway. Unfortunately, there are certain useless organizations in this country (ACLU, cough cough), that allow this to happen. This is a disgrace to the immigrants that actually come into this country the right way. It also sets a terrible precedent with the policy we have today that basically says, "go ahead and enter this country illegally, get public assistance, and take jobs away from the legal citizens of this country". It gives no incentive for immigants to immigrate the lawful way.

WTF is up with this "ur lawn is nice cuz we probably cut it., etc" ********. I cut my own lawn thank you. Plus, are you saying that we == illegal immigrants? That is my interpretation of your statement. So, if the above is true, you are an illegal immigrant. If so, I advise you to GTFU, and enter the country the legal way. Plus, if I was in the position to hire someone to perform odd jobs like you mentioned, I wouldn't stoop myself to that level and hire an illegal immigrant, even if it saved me money, since I'd be screwing the legal workers out there.

Sorry everyone else for the off topic post.
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 08:45 AM
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Im not illegal im a US citizen. Born and raised in California. But it irritates me how people can go around saying **** illegals gtfo etc. Most of the people saying that have never left their little safety bubble. I say u travel the world read about BS going on in other countries i.e. darfur, africa, murders in mexico, Chavez in Venezuela, Communist Korea and their BS. You'll apreciate what u have. And ull start to understand why these people risk their lives to get here illegally. Yeah theres bad ones out there but think about it if a different illegal did some thing bad everyday thats 365 a year. But think about the thousands more that go to school work below minimum wage and mind their own buisness here. Just open urself a little first before people go condeming illegals as a burden.
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OP doesn't want to say what happened because he figures we're all on his side about it, and in retrospect realizes that he may have done something wrong.
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OP doesn't want to say what happened because he figures we're all on his side about it, and in retrospect realizes that he may have done something wrong.
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