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Old 01-07-2008, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DomZ
I was talking drag - hence the "making passes", "launches", and "shift points" in my previous post. I don't care about road racing so for my intents and purposes (daily driver in rush hour traffic + drag racing) it works fine.
well you "make passes" "Launch " and have "shift points" in road racing aswell.lol but understood.

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Old 01-07-2008, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DomZ
With some practice and experimenting with launches and shift points a 5AT is definitely fast.

i didn't know 14 second passes were considered fast.
Old 01-07-2008, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperBlack350z
i didn't know 14 second passes were considered fast.
well, not to defend the auto arugment because i think its a loosing war, but usually inexpreinced drivers do put up times in the 14s with a 350z 6mt. I know its redioculous but in fact my previous expreinces going to english town upnorth saw alot of newbies hitting those times. Now understanding that its easy for a auto Z and compete with those driver and beat them consistantly because of driver error alone. This giving the impression that the merits goes to the auto . but in reality its driver inexpreince on how to make the most out of the 6mt while your preety much giving it all its got on a auto z on every pass.
Old 01-07-2008, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RBlover69
but see your saying exactly why a auto is more deficient in areas in road racing, your brakes wouldnt be fading that much if you had a MT. The argument was which was faster, clearly in a sports car on a road race cours you are alot more in control of your cars behavior and entry exits with a 6MT. To me its a matter of actually driving the car and making it perform what you expect it to know and knwing your car verses , the enormous dependancy on brakes and lack of rpm control in a auto. Hey the auto in the Zs are great for street driving but in a road course.....ill pass.

Hey when do you run and with what racing body?, i have been dying to get with some Zs and run on sebring you have to send me some info man PM if ya have to.
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Old 01-07-2008, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperBlack350z
i didn't know 14 second passes were considered fast.
I think you're mistaken. Did you mean to quote me?
Old 01-07-2008, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperBlack350z
i didn't know 14 second passes were considered fast.

Why do I see DomZ's name posted in the drag forum for fastest times with an auto, and your name, with your obviously superior transmission, is no where to be found?
Old 01-07-2008, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DomZ
I think you're mistaken. Did you mean to quote me?
I'm well aware of what you ran in your auto z. fact is, most auto zs will be in the 14's. You even running at a 13.6 is still slow. Even though my quarter time with bolts on is still not faster than your time stock (13.89x), it's no where considered fast. For a person who go to the drags, i thought you would of known that.
Old 01-07-2008, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperBlack350z
I'm well aware of what you ran in your auto z. fact is, most auto zs will be in the 14's. You even running at a 13.6 is still slow. Even though my quarter time with bolts on is still not faster than your time stock (13.89x), it's no where considered fast. For a person who go to the drags, i thought you would of known that.
Old 01-07-2008, 06:30 AM
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Umm... I've seen a bone stock auto Z run a 13.9 while 6spd aren't much faster
Old 01-07-2008, 06:31 AM
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Maybe i'm just sensitive with the word "fast". I rather a person who runs in the 13's using the word "quick" or something. My friends would laugh at me if i told them that my car is fast. When they are consistently doing 10 second passes.
Old 01-07-2008, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperBlack350z
Maybe i'm just sensitive with the word "fast". I rather a person who runs in the 13's using the word "quick" or something. My friends would laugh at me if i told them that my car is fast. When they are consistently doing 10 second passes.
lol anyone that asks me if the Z is fast I shake my head and say its decently quick.
Old 01-07-2008, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperBlack350z
Maybe i'm just sensitive with the word "fast". I rather a person who runs in the 13's using the word "quick" or something. My friends would laugh at me if i told them that my car is fast. When they are consistently doing 10 second passes.
No wai! A 10 second pass is faster than a 13? Holy shit!

I hang out with a lot of friends who have much much faster cars than me but for what my car is it is decently fast and even they'd agree. I'm not trying to say we're amazing with our bolt-on Z's but we're not exactly Accords either. Fast is a relative term and you miss the fact that we were discussing auto vs. manual Z's - not other cars.
Old 01-07-2008, 06:45 AM
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Nissan put a 3.3 fd in the slushbox and the mt6 got a 3.5 to equal things out a bit, so gear rowers would not get spanked all the time

ADDENDUM:

"unless driven perfectly"
Old 01-07-2008, 06:51 AM
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no blasian...you say "it can keep up with some..."
Old 01-07-2008, 06:56 AM
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RB understands where I'm coming from. I would get assraped on a road course against a car with equal mods but on the drag strip is where I would have a chance to at least keep up with my 6MT counterpart.

Who gives a **** anymore , I can almost taste my 08 6MT its so close.
Old 01-07-2008, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by kobalt
Nissan put a 3.3 fd in the slushbox and the mt6 got a 3.5 to equal things out a bit, so gear rowers would not get spanked all the time

ADDENDUM:

"unless driven perfectly"
funny, lol a bit deranged way of thinking but funny lol
Old 01-07-2008, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DomZ
RB understands where I'm coming from. I would get assraped on a road course against a car with equal mods but on the drag strip is where I would have a chance to at least keep up with my 6MT counterpart.

Who gives a **** anymore , I can almost taste my 08 6MT its so close.
wait, so did you choose your auto right now? Why not go with an 08 5at?
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Originally Posted by DomZ
RB understands where I'm coming from. I would get assraped on a road course against a car with equal mods but on the drag strip is where I would have a chance to at least keep up with my 6MT counterpart.

Who gives a **** anymore , I can almost taste my 08 6MT its so close.
Def i agree with you, on a 1/4 i wouldnt bet money on a 6mt Z vs a auto Z stock for stock unless the driver in the 6mt i know 100% certain is a expert at his craft or a never lift to shift fellow like alberto lmao. But yea you would be stupid to say in the 1/4 that it isnt close because it is.

Road racing is a different animal thus the advatanges and disadvantages become alot more evident. Even things such as tires gearing are evident even aero components. Its just a more variable driven beast. Transmissions are really evident on the courses.

But yea i agreee with dom aswell.
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Originally Posted by DomZ
RB understands where I'm coming from. I would get assraped on a road course against a car with equal mods but on the drag strip is where I would have a chance to at least keep up with my 6MT counterpart.

Who gives a **** anymore , I can almost taste my 08 6MT its so close.
lmao

these are one of those arguments that can go as long as people can talk lol. Or moreso type.
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Originally Posted by SuperBlack350z
wait, so did you choose your auto right now? Why not go with an 08 5at?
who cares ??? maybey he wants to hate first gear in traffic like the rest of us cool manual owners lmao.


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