STi owner asked did I buy the 350Z just for its looks?
Originally Posted by sulowz
Yay more slow *** morons speak up. How cooool does ur sophisticated car look when u get smoked. Not by tenths, but by seconds. Also, old hags drive 350z's. What does that tell you? Don't get mad cause you have slow cars it's okay. Get ur ugly *** bugs out of here. And get a good view of my rear cause it's going to be in front of you forever.
STI's are NOT, I say again, are NOT faster than the Z in a straight line. Your 2.5 liters plus a itty bitty little turbo equals NO top end. Sure spools quick and makes great low-end torque, but that's about it.
Sure, it's quicker in the quarter. It can't trap as high though, which proves it's not faster. Can you even tell me what the highest trap speed out of a stock STI is?
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Originally Posted by Donsred350Z
STi owner asked did I buy the 350Z just for it's looks? He goes on to say that I certainly didn't buy it because it's the fastest sportcar in its price range, nor the best handling sports car in this price range, and it's not the most practical in it's range. Why did I buy the Nissan because it was a Nissan? He stated man I don't get it. If I wanted a Porsche I wouldn't buy a look a like, he goes on to say.
My comment was because it was a Z-car, no one has to ask if its a Sports car by looking, no one has to ask what it is, its either a Z car or a Porsche.
Its fast enough and handles well enough that it puts a smile on my face while standing inside or outside it.
The STi I've driven are impressive while driving but a stop sign they look like a kid that stole his dad credit car and bought 3rd party parts to built it.
And standing outside it almost make you wanta cry or laugh. I know this is objective viewing. I have nothing but praise for the STi drive train and performance but its hard to look at and say its a Sports car more a mud racer/rally car brought to the street.
In hindsight I'd pick a 350Z car over a STi anyday, but I wouldn't race one.
Now if I had to choose one car for all seasons it would be the funny looking awd STi, but for a Sports Car the Z all the way. I got a jeep so I don't need a Subraru. We agreed to disagree.
How would you have answered him with out fist it cuffs?
My comment was because it was a Z-car, no one has to ask if its a Sports car by looking, no one has to ask what it is, its either a Z car or a Porsche.
Its fast enough and handles well enough that it puts a smile on my face while standing inside or outside it.
The STi I've driven are impressive while driving but a stop sign they look like a kid that stole his dad credit car and bought 3rd party parts to built it.
And standing outside it almost make you wanta cry or laugh. I know this is objective viewing. I have nothing but praise for the STi drive train and performance but its hard to look at and say its a Sports car more a mud racer/rally car brought to the street.
In hindsight I'd pick a 350Z car over a STi anyday, but I wouldn't race one.
Now if I had to choose one car for all seasons it would be the funny looking awd STi, but for a Sports Car the Z all the way. I got a jeep so I don't need a Subraru. We agreed to disagree.
How would you have answered him with out fist it cuffs?
Originally Posted by sulowz
Yay more slow *** morons speak up. How cooool does ur sophisticated car look when u get smoked. Not by tenths, but by seconds. Also, old hags drive 350z's. What does that tell you? Don't get mad cause you have slow cars it's okay. Get ur ugly *** bugs out of here. And get a good view of my rear cause it's going to be in front of you forever.
You saying the STi isn't faster than the Z in a straight line... Were you just born that mentally handy caped?
AWD off the line will rip the Z up 1st off and even at a roll the 2 are damn near dead even.
And I know this from MUCH experience. Good friend of mine has an 06 STi and she lets me take it whenever I want. The thing is a BEAST. With housr upon hours behind the wheel of both the STi and Z the STi is faster, but im still not convinced it handles as well.
Here's the thing. I built my Z to handle, 90% of my mods are suspension. She has an Intake and Turbo back exhaust with a stage 2 ECU tune, and let me tell you those 2 mods (ECU tune was FREE) made that a whole new car. It's sometimes boarderline scary when you hit boost in a corner, but then you have AWD to back you up
That car easily made a 50+ WHP gain from those 3 things. Can you say that about the Z? Add intake and exhaust and get what 10 HP at the most.
Now don't get me wrong I absolutely love my Z and would never trade it in, but I would also love to own an STi. Boost and AWD are both wonderful things to have.
Z is still and always will be a million times more SEXY, especally since the new STi is a station wagon... lol Only sad thing is it's a lot faster than the previous STi's. It's sad we can get smoked by a station wagon. Then again for 7K more than the Z msrp I would expect it to.
AWD off the line will rip the Z up 1st off and even at a roll the 2 are damn near dead even.
And I know this from MUCH experience. Good friend of mine has an 06 STi and she lets me take it whenever I want. The thing is a BEAST. With housr upon hours behind the wheel of both the STi and Z the STi is faster, but im still not convinced it handles as well.
Here's the thing. I built my Z to handle, 90% of my mods are suspension. She has an Intake and Turbo back exhaust with a stage 2 ECU tune, and let me tell you those 2 mods (ECU tune was FREE) made that a whole new car. It's sometimes boarderline scary when you hit boost in a corner, but then you have AWD to back you up
That car easily made a 50+ WHP gain from those 3 things. Can you say that about the Z? Add intake and exhaust and get what 10 HP at the most. Now don't get me wrong I absolutely love my Z and would never trade it in, but I would also love to own an STi. Boost and AWD are both wonderful things to have.
Z is still and always will be a million times more SEXY, especally since the new STi is a station wagon... lol Only sad thing is it's a lot faster than the previous STi's. It's sad we can get smoked by a station wagon. Then again for 7K more than the Z msrp I would expect it to.
Last edited by MyV6IsFast3r; Mar 31, 2008 at 12:59 PM.
this thread is funny. I don't get STI guys sometimes. Your car is fast, thats great and I can respect that. On the other hand, its pretty obvious that the majority of people (not just on Z forums) think the Z looks way better. Is the speed a way to justify the purchase of such a horrid looking vehicle? B/c if speed is all you care about you could've saved a lot of money making an older, cheaper, and uglier car faster than your STI.
I kinda feel sorry for the guys that had to purchase a car to make an impression on girls... Most Men have themselves for that.
The new STi is saweeet! The interrior has been upgraded and I think it's better than the one from my '05 Z Track.
Being able to carry my own wheels to the track will be a plus.
The one annoying things is it's way, and I mean WAY to fast for the street! The Z would slide around at reasonable speeds. The STi is just planted, dry or wet!
I have no regrets after swapping cars.
The new STi is saweeet! The interrior has been upgraded and I think it's better than the one from my '05 Z Track.
Being able to carry my own wheels to the track will be a plus.
The one annoying things is it's way, and I mean WAY to fast for the street! The Z would slide around at reasonable speeds. The STi is just planted, dry or wet!
I have no regrets after swapping cars.
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Originally Posted by MyV6IsFast3r
You saying the STi isn't faster than the Z in a straight line... Were you just born that mentally handy caped?
AWD off the line will rip the Z up 1st off and even at a roll the 2 are damn near dead even.
And I know this from MUCH experience. Good friend of mine has an 06 STi and she lets me take it whenever I want. The thing is a BEAST. With housr upon hours behind the wheel of both the STi and Z the STi is faster, but im still not convinced it handles as well.
Here's the thing. I built my Z to handle, 90% of my mods are suspension. She has an Intake and Turbo back exhaust with a stage 2 ECU tune, and let me tell you those 2 mods (ECU tune was FREE) made that a whole new car. It's sometimes boarderline scary when you hit boost in a corner, but then you have AWD to back you up That car easily made a 50+ WHP gain from those 3 things. Can you say that about the Z? Add intake and exhaust and get what 10 HP at the most.
Now don't get me wrong I absolutely love my Z and would never trade it in, but I would also love to own an STi. Boost and AWD are both wonderful things to have.
Z is still and always will be a million times more SEXY, especally since the new STi is a station wagon... lol Only sad thing is it's a lot faster than the previous STi's. It's sad we can get smoked by a station wagon. Then again for 7K more than the Z msrp I would expect it to.
AWD off the line will rip the Z up 1st off and even at a roll the 2 are damn near dead even.
And I know this from MUCH experience. Good friend of mine has an 06 STi and she lets me take it whenever I want. The thing is a BEAST. With housr upon hours behind the wheel of both the STi and Z the STi is faster, but im still not convinced it handles as well.
Here's the thing. I built my Z to handle, 90% of my mods are suspension. She has an Intake and Turbo back exhaust with a stage 2 ECU tune, and let me tell you those 2 mods (ECU tune was FREE) made that a whole new car. It's sometimes boarderline scary when you hit boost in a corner, but then you have AWD to back you up
That car easily made a 50+ WHP gain from those 3 things. Can you say that about the Z? Add intake and exhaust and get what 10 HP at the most. Now don't get me wrong I absolutely love my Z and would never trade it in, but I would also love to own an STi. Boost and AWD are both wonderful things to have.
Z is still and always will be a million times more SEXY, especally since the new STi is a station wagon... lol Only sad thing is it's a lot faster than the previous STi's. It's sad we can get smoked by a station wagon. Then again for 7K more than the Z msrp I would expect it to.
Originally Posted by MyV6IsFast3r
You saying the STi isn't faster than the Z in a straight line... Were you just born that mentally handy caped?
AWD off the line will rip the Z up 1st off and even at a roll the 2 are damn near dead even.
And I know this from MUCH experience. Good friend of mine has an 06 STi and she lets me take it whenever I want. The thing is a BEAST. With housr upon hours behind the wheel of both the STi and Z the STi is faster, but im still not convinced it handles as well.
Here's the thing. I built my Z to handle, 90% of my mods are suspension. She has an Intake and Turbo back exhaust with a stage 2 ECU tune, and let me tell you those 2 mods (ECU tune was FREE) made that a whole new car. It's sometimes boarderline scary when you hit boost in a corner, but then you have AWD to back you up That car easily made a 50+ WHP gain from those 3 things. Can you say that about the Z? Add intake and exhaust and get what 10 HP at the most.
Now don't get me wrong I absolutely love my Z and would never trade it in, but I would also love to own an STi. Boost and AWD are both wonderful things to have.
Z is still and always will be a million times more SEXY, especally since the new STi is a station wagon... lol Only sad thing is it's a lot faster than the previous STi's. It's sad we can get smoked by a station wagon. Then again for 7K more than the Z msrp I would expect it to.
AWD off the line will rip the Z up 1st off and even at a roll the 2 are damn near dead even.
And I know this from MUCH experience. Good friend of mine has an 06 STi and she lets me take it whenever I want. The thing is a BEAST. With housr upon hours behind the wheel of both the STi and Z the STi is faster, but im still not convinced it handles as well.
Here's the thing. I built my Z to handle, 90% of my mods are suspension. She has an Intake and Turbo back exhaust with a stage 2 ECU tune, and let me tell you those 2 mods (ECU tune was FREE) made that a whole new car. It's sometimes boarderline scary when you hit boost in a corner, but then you have AWD to back you up
That car easily made a 50+ WHP gain from those 3 things. Can you say that about the Z? Add intake and exhaust and get what 10 HP at the most. Now don't get me wrong I absolutely love my Z and would never trade it in, but I would also love to own an STi. Boost and AWD are both wonderful things to have.
Z is still and always will be a million times more SEXY, especally since the new STi is a station wagon... lol Only sad thing is it's a lot faster than the previous STi's. It's sad we can get smoked by a station wagon. Then again for 7K more than the Z msrp I would expect it to.
No **** the STI makes more power with bolt-ons... it's boosted, and responds pretty good to simple mods.
STI's are NOT "fast" stock. They're quick, but not fast. My friend's '05 STI with Cobb AP stage 2 and full TBE could BARELY pull my Z when I had it, and didn't stand a chance against my STOCK Evo.
The '07 STIs seem to do much better from a roll. I don't know about the '08s yet, but there's 2 in my crew that just got past their break in periods so we can run them against our Z and see what happens.
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LOL I smoke 350z's all day. I smoke evo's too. A stock evo will not beat a stock sti. But the evo engine is really nicely made and can hold more power than an sti no doubt. Too bad the new evo x engines are garbage.
Originally Posted by sulowz
LOL I smoke 350z's all day. I smoke evo's too. A stock evo will not beat a stock sti. But the evo engine is really nicely made and can hold more power than an sti no doubt. Too bad the new evo x engines are garbage.
Facts...
*Stock for stock they are very even cars... The Z will not "destroy" the STi. In my experience the Z starts to pull slightly as speeds get higher (displacement).
*The STi with minor mods yields higher potential than minor mods on a Z.
*Boost is great.
*STi and Z styling are on different sides of the spectrum.
*sulowz is a complete tool.
*08 STi is supposed to be worlds better than the previous year STi, so Nissan better get on the ball here with the 370Z.
*Stock for stock price for price the Z is a better value. 28K msrp vs. 35K msrp.
*There is more than can be counted on ones 2 hands and feet of Z's or G's on this board that will lay a whooping on you, mr. sulowz. From the dig, from a roll, or in reverse, get over yourself, and your "my car is the best car on the planet" mentality.
*Both are respectable cars and and true automobile enthusiast shal show respect to any great engineering feat, as both cars are. Unless, the driver of either car is a douchbag, such as in sulowz's case then that driver will be ignored and not respected as a true automotive enthusiast.
Thank you come again.
Reminds me of a story, guy was talking **** to me on how his SRT-4 (500WHP) could take my Z in the corners... A week later he totaled it taking a corner too fast and wound up buying an 05 Track Z....
*Stock for stock they are very even cars... The Z will not "destroy" the STi. In my experience the Z starts to pull slightly as speeds get higher (displacement).
*The STi with minor mods yields higher potential than minor mods on a Z.
*Boost is great.
*STi and Z styling are on different sides of the spectrum.
*sulowz is a complete tool.
*08 STi is supposed to be worlds better than the previous year STi, so Nissan better get on the ball here with the 370Z.
*Stock for stock price for price the Z is a better value. 28K msrp vs. 35K msrp.
*There is more than can be counted on ones 2 hands and feet of Z's or G's on this board that will lay a whooping on you, mr. sulowz. From the dig, from a roll, or in reverse, get over yourself, and your "my car is the best car on the planet" mentality.
*Both are respectable cars and and true automobile enthusiast shal show respect to any great engineering feat, as both cars are. Unless, the driver of either car is a douchbag, such as in sulowz's case then that driver will be ignored and not respected as a true automotive enthusiast.
Thank you come again.
Reminds me of a story, guy was talking **** to me on how his SRT-4 (500WHP) could take my Z in the corners... A week later he totaled it taking a corner too fast and wound up buying an 05 Track Z....
Last edited by MyV6IsFast3r; Mar 31, 2008 at 02:09 PM.
Are we even wasting our breath? Are you some 13 year old kid, talking about some Xbox game that you raced Zs and Evos. Post pictures of your STI lets see that 8 second car.
Last edited by zonic03; Mar 31, 2008 at 02:08 PM.
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Yeah, little Sully is a bit of a loser. His life consists of trying to find someone who has a slower car. He cruises other car forums because secretly he wishes he had one. He is trying to justify his STI purchase. Use the same excuse you did when you found out you had ED. I needed a fast car to prove I was a man. I needed the little blue pill to prove I was a man.
Give it up with your silly challenges. Your stuck with a box. Face it. You want fast, tons of Mustangs will blow your doors off in the 1/4 mile with next to nothing for mods and at a whole lot cheaper too. Man, the G8 with not much done will destroy you.
Funny, do many of the fast indy cars or nascar cars go AWD? That would be no. Where do they use AWD? Rally. So why don't you find yourself some gravel, put pedal to metal, find a nice hill to climb, and just keep on going. That AWD will take you far in the fields and I'm sure if you look hard enough you'll find the one that you were conceived in. (That would be made Sully!)
Old men and old women drive Z's. Yup. Ok you simpleton. What a witless wonder you are.
Give it up with your silly challenges. Your stuck with a box. Face it. You want fast, tons of Mustangs will blow your doors off in the 1/4 mile with next to nothing for mods and at a whole lot cheaper too. Man, the G8 with not much done will destroy you.
Funny, do many of the fast indy cars or nascar cars go AWD? That would be no. Where do they use AWD? Rally. So why don't you find yourself some gravel, put pedal to metal, find a nice hill to climb, and just keep on going. That AWD will take you far in the fields and I'm sure if you look hard enough you'll find the one that you were conceived in. (That would be made Sully!)
Old men and old women drive Z's. Yup. Ok you simpleton. What a witless wonder you are.
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Originally Posted by MyV6IsFast3r
Facts...
*Stock for stock they are very even cars... The Z will not "destroy" the STi. In my experience the Z starts to pull slightly as speeds get higher (displacement).
*The STi with minor mods yields higher potential than minor mods on a Z.
*Boost is great.
*STi and Z styling are on different sides of the spectrum.
*sulowz is a complete tool.
*08 STi is supposed to be worlds better than the previous year STi, so Nissan better get on the ball here with the 370Z.
*Stock for stock price for price the Z is a better value. 28K msrp vs. 35K msrp.
*There is more than can be counted on ones 2 hands and feet of Z's or G's on this board that will lay a whooping on you, mr. sulowz. From the dig, from a roll, or in reverse, get over yourself, and your "my car is the best car on the planet" mentality.
*Both are respectable cars and and true automobile enthusiast shal show respect to any great engineering feat, as both cars are. Unless, the driver of either car is a douchbag, such as in sulowz's case then that driver will be ignored and not respected as a true automotive enthusiast.
Thank you come again.
Reminds me of a story, guy was talking **** to me on how his SRT-4 (500WHP) could take my Z in the corners... A week later he totaled it taking a corner too fast and wound up buying an 05 Track Z....
*Stock for stock they are very even cars... The Z will not "destroy" the STi. In my experience the Z starts to pull slightly as speeds get higher (displacement).
*The STi with minor mods yields higher potential than minor mods on a Z.
*Boost is great.
*STi and Z styling are on different sides of the spectrum.
*sulowz is a complete tool.
*08 STi is supposed to be worlds better than the previous year STi, so Nissan better get on the ball here with the 370Z.
*Stock for stock price for price the Z is a better value. 28K msrp vs. 35K msrp.
*There is more than can be counted on ones 2 hands and feet of Z's or G's on this board that will lay a whooping on you, mr. sulowz. From the dig, from a roll, or in reverse, get over yourself, and your "my car is the best car on the planet" mentality.
*Both are respectable cars and and true automobile enthusiast shal show respect to any great engineering feat, as both cars are. Unless, the driver of either car is a douchbag, such as in sulowz's case then that driver will be ignored and not respected as a true automotive enthusiast.
Thank you come again.
Reminds me of a story, guy was talking **** to me on how his SRT-4 (500WHP) could take my Z in the corners... A week later he totaled it taking a corner too fast and wound up buying an 05 Track Z....
Sorry you 350z guys need to get over yourself. You will not beat an sti even from a roll. You will not beat sti's on the track. Go sell some more of ur piece of **** cars to some more old ladies. Cuz we all know 60 yr old ladies drive real sports cars amirite.
okay im done trolling these lame forums. u guys are slow. whatssss new. yes im being a douche because you 350z guys think u bought the prettiest car in the ****ing world. Sorry your so called sports car is slow as ****. I ****ing walk all of u.
Post pictures of that STI sulowz? You were pick in school so much that you're saved all your lunch money to prove to the world that your fast. You're so lame.
Last edited by zonic03; Mar 31, 2008 at 02:26 PM.
Originally Posted by MyV6IsFast3r
Facts...
*Stock for stock they are very even cars... The Z will not "destroy" the STi. In my experience the Z starts to pull slightly as speeds get higher (displacement).
Advantage:Z
*The STi with minor mods yields higher potential than minor mods on a Z.
Agreed.
*Boost is great.
God yes, it is.
*STi and Z styling are on different sides of the spectrum.
Very true. Both are hot in their own respects.
*sulowz is a complete tool.
Agreed.
*08 STi is supposed to be worlds better than the previous year STi, so Nissan better get on the ball here with the 370Z.
Worlds better in handling, yes. Bolt-on performance, yes. Stock straight-line performance, I'm not sure about that one.
*Stock for stock price for price the Z is a better value. 28K msrp vs. 35K msrp.
Agreed to a certain point.
*There is more than can be counted on ones 2 hands and feet of Z's or G's on this board that will lay a whooping on you, mr. sulowz. From the dig, from a roll, or in reverse, get over yourself, and your "my car is the best car on the planet" mentality.
Agreed.
*Both are respectable cars and and true automobile enthusiast shal show respect to any great engineering feat, as both cars are. Unless, the driver of either car is a douchbag, such as in sulowz's case then that driver will be ignored and not respected as a true automotive enthusiast.
Agreed.
Thank you come again.
Reminds me of a story, guy was talking **** to me on how his SRT-4 (500WHP) could take my Z in the corners... A week later he totaled it taking a corner too fast and wound up buying an 05 Track Z....
*Stock for stock they are very even cars... The Z will not "destroy" the STi. In my experience the Z starts to pull slightly as speeds get higher (displacement).
Advantage:Z
*The STi with minor mods yields higher potential than minor mods on a Z.
Agreed.
*Boost is great.
God yes, it is.
*STi and Z styling are on different sides of the spectrum.
Very true. Both are hot in their own respects.
*sulowz is a complete tool.
Agreed.
*08 STi is supposed to be worlds better than the previous year STi, so Nissan better get on the ball here with the 370Z.
Worlds better in handling, yes. Bolt-on performance, yes. Stock straight-line performance, I'm not sure about that one.
*Stock for stock price for price the Z is a better value. 28K msrp vs. 35K msrp.
Agreed to a certain point.
*There is more than can be counted on ones 2 hands and feet of Z's or G's on this board that will lay a whooping on you, mr. sulowz. From the dig, from a roll, or in reverse, get over yourself, and your "my car is the best car on the planet" mentality.
Agreed.
*Both are respectable cars and and true automobile enthusiast shal show respect to any great engineering feat, as both cars are. Unless, the driver of either car is a douchbag, such as in sulowz's case then that driver will be ignored and not respected as a true automotive enthusiast.
Agreed.
Thank you come again.
Reminds me of a story, guy was talking **** to me on how his SRT-4 (500WHP) could take my Z in the corners... A week later he totaled it taking a corner too fast and wound up buying an 05 Track Z....