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Old 05-01-2008, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by chefsz
the Z hands down

you couldnt find research on this?
there is no way on earth a g performs better than the z stock for stock

cannot wait to read more of these posts
I couldn't find more info on this. I asked because the G is longer ~6in? and the G drivers said that would account for better handling around a track. Since i'm not familiar with the technical aspects of handling, I just wanted to know what the professionals say about it.
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Originally Posted by SargentZ
maybe some of our autocrossers can answer for us, same track, same class, which gets better times? anyone?

I mentioned autocross. In SCCA events the 350Z and G35 will not race in the same class. For raw times are there G35 racers who will kick my butt? Most certainly.

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Old 05-01-2008, 02:47 PM
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After having driven both cars of the same year, an Enthusiast Z and a track Z (Mine ) and a 6mt G, I can easily say the G is too tall stock and has too much body roll to contend with the Z when it comes to cornering and tossability. That being said, both cars are electronically limited at 156 mph and while I haven't driven a G that fast, my Z feels plenty stable. So I think the winner would be the Z.
Old 05-01-2008, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jlvvega
350z Nismo can be squeezed in here?.

Best Z handling ever and very stable at high speeds, not for drag racing.
Please don't bash me but according to car and driver article (link below), the base Z pulls better on a skid pad and is faster in the quarter mile then nismo Z. Basically they claim that Nismo Z feels tighter but performs worse then base Z in all aspects except braking.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/..._test/(page)/1

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Old 05-01-2008, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jyoder7
There's more to a cars handling than how fast it goes around a turn.
Seriously, you need to get out and visit an autocross.
Old 05-02-2008, 01:43 PM
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I’m not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but there is a noticeable handling difference among the different models in the G35/G37 coupe line.

If the main criteria when comparing a G35/G37 to a 350 Z is handling, you should use the G35/G37 Coupe Sport 6MT (it has a different suspension) for this test.

--Spike
Old 05-02-2008, 02:31 PM
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350z got the best handling for that price range
Old 05-05-2008, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Spike100
I’m not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but there is a noticeable handling difference among the different models in the G35/G37 coupe line.

If the main criteria when comparing a G35/G37 to a 350 Z is handling, you should use the G35/G37 Coupe Sport 6MT (it has a different suspension) for this test.

--Spike

correct, it'd be the only 'stock' one that should be compared. My friend has one and it rides rougher than my Z,

handles better?, nope...
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Old 05-05-2008, 11:21 AM
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The tampon in the glove compartment emergency kit should equate to more stability I think...and HP.
Old 05-05-2008, 11:24 AM
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I drive a G coupe 6MT and Ive driven a few Z's. The Z is without a doubt the better handler, there is no denying it. Its a stiffer car in every aspect.
Old 05-05-2008, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Donsred350Z
An Escalade competing in handling because of style. The Cadillac Truck/SUV might rate high if we comparing Trucks. But when talking about Sport cars its still a Truck that handles like a big truck and I don't care how much chrome or spinners it has it doesn't handle like a sport car.

What point were you trying to make? And what do you mean by handle, unless you are talking about your business and you're a PIMP.


The 350Z is a Sport Car the G35 is a Sports luxury Coupe, which one sounds like it should handle best, let you common sense guide ya. Of course the 350Z.

The G has better interior bc can you guess why? Bc its a SLC. Bingo.

LOL. YOU sir, must not know much about spinners and/or aerodynamics.

You see, when a vehicle with spinners rounds a hard corner at high speed, the spinners on all four wheels are generally spinning at a rather high rate of speed. Given sufficiently large wheels (20 inches is the MINIMUM), this rapid spinning actually creates four small vortecies (plural of vortex, I looked it up) at each corner of the vehicle.

Now, think of an airplane propeller - it spins, pulling air back, thus moving the plane forward. Well, these large spinners function in a similar way, pulling air toward the vehicle, thus moving the car in the opposite direction.

So, when a vehicle with large spinners rounds a corner, the inside spinners actually pull the car in the direction of the turn, while the outside spinners provide stability, making for a smooth, incredibly stable cornering experience.


Why else would people in Escalades feel safe enough to drive well over the speed limit while weaving through traffic? The incredible handling they know they have, provided by their extra large spinners.

(Edit cause I spelled 'airplane' wrong >.> )
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Z35
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Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep
Z35


Is that a mix between a V35 and a Z33?
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Its best to cut the springs on the car too. For better handling you have to cut a minimum of 4 inchs off the springs. Since the springs are smaller now they will be softer for better street and firmer on the track. Trust me on this one. And do get the spinners its all about the rotational mass (spinners add to the rotation making mass smaller thus better handling and make the car faster, since they are connected to the axles its called axcelleration.
Old 05-06-2008, 11:47 AM
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just read this road and track review g coupe achieved 0.92g around the skidpad and danced through the slalom at 67.7 mph, besting the 350Z's 0.89g and 65.6 mph.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=3

check g coupe handling
http://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/...1_g35_data.pdf

now check the 350z
http://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/..._350z_data.pdf

what happens is some people think that the go kart quick reaction from the z is handling when it's not. handling is determined by how much speed and grip is achieved at corners, turns.

so now everyone has their answer
Old 05-06-2008, 12:30 PM
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The G35/G37 is more stable due to longer wheel base in turns and it's easier to control. I had two G35s before the Z. The Z handles better than a G but you have to be careful at it's limits or it will snap it's rear loose without notice sometimes. The G would never do that.
Old 05-06-2008, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jyoder7
There's more to a cars handling than how fast it goes around a turn.
Everyone is flaming him for this comment, but i'd agree

For instance, a Porsche Cayenne probably has more grip in outright terms than a miata. Does that mean it handles better? Not necessarily.

If two cars reach their limits around a corner at the same speed, but one of them is an understeering mess, while the other one can be throttle steered through a four wheel drift on said corner, do both cars have "equal handling?"
Old 05-06-2008, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kel
just read this road and track review g coupe achieved 0.92g around the skidpad and danced through the slalom at 67.7 mph, besting the 350Z's 0.89g and 65.6 mph.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=3

check g coupe handling
http://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/...1_g35_data.pdf

now check the 350z
http://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/..._350z_data.pdf

what happens is some people think that the go kart quick reaction from the z is handling when it's not. handling is determined by how much speed and grip is achieved at corners, turns.

so now everyone has their answer
thanks for providing some actual numbers
Old 05-07-2008, 06:57 AM
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Actual numbers do not prove anything. Take both cars to a track and you will see the difference. You could take a Minivan and put suspension on it to pull .90 Gs but will it take the sudden lane change manuvers like a 350z? NO.


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