Notices
2003-2009 Nissan 350Z

BE WARNED!!! TheBlackPearlZ is a fraud and scammer!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 22, 2009 | 08:44 PM
  #921  
godlike0104's Avatar
godlike0104
Thread Starter
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
From: LA
Default

Originally Posted by spankey167
Hey Guys... This guy tried to scam me...

I had a thread on Wanted for Diamond Black CE28s. Same type of situation as the Poster.

He never replied to my thread, but did PM me saying that "his friend" had a set. He stated his friend was from Indiana, but was stationed in NC. He gave me a cell number (Probably his own) to call. I talked to someone (probably him) about the set of wheels.

The friend seemed to be pretty cool. As a buyer I asked for him to send pics. He delayed of course... Saying his old pics were at home in Indiana and not in NC with him. Through out this time he kept pushing on sending the payment. The deal I wanted to do was for him to take off the rear tires (since I did not need them) and sell the set of wheels with the front tires. I never confirmed for them to take off any tires since I wanted the pics first. So all of a sudden I get a text saying that he had his friend (Blackpearlz) took off the rear tires. I asked him why he did that, since I never got any pics. The guy finally sent the pics, but as a cautious buyer, i noticed that the cars plates was from CA.

I questioned him immediately and said that I will pass. At that time I knew he was trying to scam me. The friend started to try to throw a guilt trip on me by saying that his friend (blackpearlz) took the time to take off the two tires and I am not going to buy. He gave me a lame excuse that he was stationed out in CA for a bit, yadda... yadda... I told him to prove they were his and take more pics of them. He declined to do that, so I passed on the wheels... So glad I did...

I guess i am one of the lucky ones...

Good luck bro
No offense, but if something like that happened to me, i would make a post right away to warn other people, and its probably what you should've done. Maybe the victims would've avoid the fraud. Anyways, thanks for sharing your story.
Old Jan 22, 2009 | 09:00 PM
  #922  
spankey167's Avatar
spankey167
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
From: Tustin, CA
Default

I would have... I was gone for the holidays and just got back. Also, my computer just recently crashed... Sucks.. But yea. I was planning to, just never had the chance... Sorry to hear what happened bro. Hope things turn out for the better.
Old Jan 22, 2009 | 11:39 PM
  #923  
Xendric's Avatar
Xendric
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
From: Greece
Default

Originally Posted by godlike0104
No offense, but if something like that happened to me, i would make a post right away to warn other people, and its probably what you should've done. Maybe the victims would've avoid the fraud. Anyways, thanks for sharing your story.

You have a point there now, but the fact that someone suspected someone else of being a fraud doesn't mean he has the right to call him out publicly, because there's always a chance that Spankey could have been wrong.

It might seem obvious and the right thing to do now, but I wouldn't appreciate someone destroy my credibility just because he had a hunch.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 03:25 AM
  #924  
07rdsterGT's Avatar
07rdsterGT
Registered User
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,089
Likes: 0
From: Manassas, VA
Default

Originally Posted by godlike0104
No offense, but if something like that happened to me, i would make a post right away to warn other people, and its probably what you should've done. Maybe the victims would've avoid the fraud. Anyways, thanks for sharing your story.
+1
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 05:46 AM
  #925  
spankey167's Avatar
spankey167
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
From: Tustin, CA
Default

Originally Posted by Xendric
You have a point there now, but the fact that someone suspected someone else of being a fraud doesn't mean he has the right to call him out publicly, because there's always a chance that Spankey could have been wrong.

It might seem obvious and the right thing to do now, but I wouldn't appreciate someone destroy my credibility just because he had a hunch.
Thats for mentioning that. It was pretty much a hunch, since I was not sure if it was Blackpearlz or his "friend". But now, from reading the thread, I know it was Blackpearlz that was the scammer...
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 06:40 AM
  #926  
stogey420time's Avatar
stogey420time
Club Moderator
the Hot Spot
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,714
Likes: 79
From: Houston
Default

Originally Posted by spankey167
Thats for mentioning that. It was pretty much a hunch, since I was not sure if it was Blackpearlz or his "friend". But now, from reading the thread, I know it was Blackpearlz that was the scammer...
By the look of the PM writing you save from him....it's him b/c he doesn't use capitalize letter at the beginning of every sentence.
Someone did an analysis on the way he typed back in page (I don't know) but it's there.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 07:08 AM
  #927  
jubes's Avatar
jubes
Registered User
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,185
Likes: 2
From: Los Angeles, Ca
Default

Originally Posted by stogey420time
By the look of the PM writing you save from him....it's him b/c he doesn't use capitalize letter at the beginning of every sentence.
Someone did an analysis on the way he typed back in page (I don't know) but it's there.
Well his incident occurred around the same time frame as everyone else, so more likely it is the same person...
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 07:18 AM
  #928  
PerfZ's Avatar
PerfZ
New Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,402
Likes: 14
From: hilliard ohio
Default

Originally Posted by AroundMyHorn
This asshat is still trying to scam people after all this chit. Hey not-so-beautiful nerd, what do you think about your boy now?
Um, I think not. Seems it was around the same timeframe as all of the scams.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 07:28 AM
  #929  
AroundMyHorn's Avatar
AroundMyHorn
Registered User
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,001
Likes: 5
From: houston, texas
Default

Originally Posted by PerfZ
Um, I think not. Seems it was around the same timeframe as all of the scams.
Yup, didn't see the date. Oh well, I still hope people get this issue resolved.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 07:40 AM
  #930  
spankey167's Avatar
spankey167
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
From: Tustin, CA
Default

My experience with Paypal.

I just recently sold wheels to someone in TX (right before BlackPearlZ PMed me). Paypal did not let me transfer the large amount ($2300) into my bank account (put a hold on my paypal account) until they confirmed that the wheels were delivered to the buyer ( by UPS tracking number). So Paypal did do some buyer protection on my transaction.

Does this not happen to every large transaction?

Last edited by spankey167; Jan 23, 2009 at 09:14 AM.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 07:50 AM
  #931  
PerfZ's Avatar
PerfZ
New Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,402
Likes: 14
From: hilliard ohio
Default

Probably. Just another hole in the scammer's story.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 09:01 AM
  #932  
coolblue830's Avatar
coolblue830
Registered User
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 460
Likes: 0
From: SF Bay Area
Default

Originally Posted by spankey167
My experience with Paypal.

I just recently sold wheels to someone in TX (right before BlackPearlZ PMed me). Paypal did not let me transfer the large amount ($2300)(put a hold on my account) until they confirmed that it was delivered to the buyer ( by UPS tracking number). So Paypal did do some buyer protection on my transaction.

Does this not happen to every large transaction?
I don't think so, it might depend on your payment method maybe not sure. I know a friend that got scammed for 2k+ on some ebay computer deal that he paid via paypal and they never sent anything.

Last edited by coolblue830; Jan 23, 2009 at 09:06 AM.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 09:07 AM
  #933  
godlike0104's Avatar
godlike0104
Thread Starter
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
From: LA
Default

GOD DAMN IT!

Its 1/23, still no response what so ever from paypal...... what is going on... OMG
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 09:07 AM
  #934  
350z-Jim's Avatar
350z-Jim
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,174
Likes: 1
From: Toronto, Ontario (Woodbridge)
Default

Anxiously waiting an update. I hope this ends in you burnin his ***...
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 10:46 AM
  #935  
burner's Avatar
burner
Registered User
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 329
Likes: 0
From: Austin
Default

Originally Posted by godlike0104
GOD DAMN IT!

Its 1/23, still no response what so ever from paypal...... what is going on... OMG
Maybe you should call and ask to talk to the supervisor...then ask to talk to that persons supervisor. Take names and get up as high as you can and then politely tell them what is going on.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 11:00 AM
  #936  
PerfZ's Avatar
PerfZ
New Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,402
Likes: 14
From: hilliard ohio
Default

I generally make those calls by telling whoever answers the phone that they probably don't get paid enough to hear what I am about to say - they transfer you pretty quickly after that - then keep it as civil as possible as you move up the chain.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 11:10 AM
  #937  
burner's Avatar
burner
Registered User
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 329
Likes: 0
From: Austin
Default

Originally Posted by PerfZ
I generally make those calls by telling whoever answers the phone that they probably don't get paid enough to hear what I am about to say - they transfer you pretty quickly after that - then keep it as civil as possible as you move up the chain.


I like that....."I don't think you get paid enough to hear what I have to say"...thats pretty good. Just keep your cool though as we said and you will probably get further. Make sure you take names as I said as well becasue it is not uncommon for them to hang up on you.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 11:11 AM
  #938  
zen350z's Avatar
zen350z
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
From: Newport News Va
Default

I would contact the FBI.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 11:21 AM
  #939  
Rickdogg's Avatar
Rickdogg
Out of hiatus
Premier Member
iTrader: (234)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,759
Likes: 4
From: My350z
Default

but but but but, give the scammer a chance guys. He will make good. LOL
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 10:56 PM
  #940  
godlike0104's Avatar
godlike0104
Thread Starter
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
From: LA
Default

This is rediculous, im freaking upset, heres the email paypal sent me

Dear Jong Lee,

After careful review, we have concluded our investigation of the Buyer
Complaint described below.

We have decided in your favor, however, we were unable to recover any funds
from the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement, recovery
of funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed.

Please know that we will make our best effort to recover the funds in
question if they become available in the seller's account in the future and
will take appropriate action against the seller. Such action may include
issuing a warning, a temporary restriction, or terminating the account.
Keep in mind that PayPal uses a number of factors to determine when to take
action, including member complaints. Due to privacy laws, we cannot discuss
the details of any action taken. We hope you understand our policy and that
it assures you that you are safe using PayPal.


-----------------------------------
Transaction Details
-----------------------------------

Seller's name: Alexander Grusak
Seller's email: hollisterdout@yahoo.com
Seller's transaction ID: 1VV67515LB265545S

Transaction date: Dec 24, 2008
Transaction amount: -$2,300.00 USD
Your transaction ID: 3KM57800VV5342214
Case number: PP-614-914-048



-----------------------------------
What to Do Next
-----------------------------------

This case is now closed. No further action is required by you at this time.


-----------------------------------
Other Details
-----------------------------------

To make sure future transactions proceed smoothly, we suggest you visit the
PayPal site and click the Security Center link located at the bottom of any
page. There you will find tips on how to avoid fraudulent sellers in the
"Fraud Prevention Tips for Buyers" section.

Sincerely,
PayPal
Protection Services Department


Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and you
will not receive a response. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account
and click the Help link in the top right corner of any PayPal page.

BC:PP-614-914-048:R2:USD2300.00:01/09/2009:3KM57800VV5342214


SERIOUSLY, WTF??!!!??



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:10 PM.