Gray Davis' CA car tax increase and a new Z
10-14-2003, 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by Dissident
Well, ****! You're paying for lunch at the next Z meet! And, are you hiring? j/k You hiring? lol
BTW, if you're in Vista, you ughta roll up to RB some time for lunch and we can run Highland Valley (as long as you ain't the guy in Vista dating my ex in Vista LOL)
Well, ****! You're paying for lunch at the next Z meet! And, are you hiring? j/k You hiring? lol
BTW, if you're in Vista, you ughta roll up to RB some time for lunch and we can run Highland Valley (as long as you ain't the guy in Vista dating my ex in Vista LOL)
I am looking for someone to make a GUI for a project I'm working on....but that is not for my company, it is a side project.
Highland Valley? Sounds fun, where is it exactly? Sorry I took so long to respond, I never got an email that there were replies to this thread.
Dating your ex? Check out page 16 of the "let's see your gf/wife" thread for a pic of my gf to double check it is not your gf, okay? Here is a link for your convenience.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....&pagenumber=16
10-14-2003, 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by nbdyfcnsqnc
If you vote for someone in the green party, you will make an impact on everyone you tell that you are a moron.
If you vote for someone in the green party, you will make an impact on everyone you tell that you are a moron.
Thank you for making it clear who the moron really is.
10-14-2003, 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by sifuK
green party?
kind or ironic.
enviornment vs 350z(heavy fuel burning car!)
green party?
kind or ironic.
enviornment vs 350z(heavy fuel burning car!)
10-14-2003, 08:25 PM
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Speaking of ironic, do you know how much energy is used to power the internet? Don't throw stones so quickly, try looking into the mirror and trying to change yourself before you judge others not fully knowing who they are and how they live their lives.
BTW, driving SUV/Mini vans can be more fuel efficient that driving a sports car if you consider hauling 5+ people at lets say 12mpg vs driving a sports car with only one person.
BTW, driving SUV/Mini vans can be more fuel efficient that driving a sports car if you consider hauling 5+ people at lets say 12mpg vs driving a sports car with only one person.
10-14-2003, 08:48 PM
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No one really knows. If you do, enlighten me. I bet it's less than powering all the TV sets (or fridges) in the world. 90+% of the suvs I see (and that you see) are driven by one person so it's not really a good example. And if it baffles you that I own a 350z and that I also voted Green this time around knowing that it was a loss cause then read up on democracy.
Who's throwing stones at anyone? I was responding to someone that was attempting to throw a stone at me, nothing personal but read the quoted messages directed at me. I thought this thread was long dead.
Who's throwing stones at anyone? I was responding to someone that was attempting to throw a stone at me, nothing personal but read the quoted messages directed at me. I thought this thread was long dead.
10-14-2003, 10:11 PM
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I have been told the hubs or switching stations so to speak for internet are hugh power users.
Actually, I am just happy you voted. Most people dont yet complain about what goes on. So if Greed does it for you, more power to you.
Actually, I am just happy you voted. Most people dont yet complain about what goes on. So if Greed does it for you, more power to you.
10-15-2003, 02:06 AM
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Hey zland,
>> Hmm, does that mean that I am not a quality teacher?
Not necessarily. It means a lot of people who might be quality teachers never pursue teaching because they don't think they can afford to.
>> FYI, most of your private school teachers get paid less than their peers. So according to your own logic, they must be inferior?
I know. It costs private schools about half to do a better job.
They might be inferior teachers with superior students, or students whose parents take a greater interest. I have a feeling the average public school teacher is smarter than the average private school teacher.
>> The bottom line is any school, including your beloved private schools have an advantage if they can set their own standards and determine who is enrolled.
Sadly, the kind of private school I want to see is exactly the kind that the government monopoly on education keeps out of existance. And yes, the bottom line you just described sounds good to me, too. But that isn't going to happen as long as the government is in charge of education.
>> You have been listening to Rush too long.
I have NEVER listened to Rush, but even if I had, it could not be for too long. From what I hear from people I trust, he's usually right.
I don't follow what you have written after that.
>> Hmm, does that mean that I am not a quality teacher?
Not necessarily. It means a lot of people who might be quality teachers never pursue teaching because they don't think they can afford to.
>> FYI, most of your private school teachers get paid less than their peers. So according to your own logic, they must be inferior?
I know. It costs private schools about half to do a better job.
They might be inferior teachers with superior students, or students whose parents take a greater interest. I have a feeling the average public school teacher is smarter than the average private school teacher.
>> The bottom line is any school, including your beloved private schools have an advantage if they can set their own standards and determine who is enrolled.
Sadly, the kind of private school I want to see is exactly the kind that the government monopoly on education keeps out of existance. And yes, the bottom line you just described sounds good to me, too. But that isn't going to happen as long as the government is in charge of education.
>> You have been listening to Rush too long.
I have NEVER listened to Rush, but even if I had, it could not be for too long. From what I hear from people I trust, he's usually right.
I don't follow what you have written after that.
10-15-2003, 02:31 AM
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>> No, actually to me he was the only with a vision, all those other candiates were basically the same. I did vote for him because I agreed with most of his ideas, more so than any of the other clowns.
Have you read the Green Party platform? I'm not going to vote for someone just because they have a vision, especially when that vision is socialism. If it's vision you want, read the libertarian platform ( http://www.lp.org ).
I would love it if you'd start a thread to explain what you like about the green party, so that we could have a back and forth on it. Maybe we'd both learn something.
>> Thank you for making it clear who the moron really is.
That's not necessary, and I mean that in all three ways.
Have you read the Green Party platform? I'm not going to vote for someone just because they have a vision, especially when that vision is socialism. If it's vision you want, read the libertarian platform ( http://www.lp.org ).
I would love it if you'd start a thread to explain what you like about the green party, so that we could have a back and forth on it. Maybe we'd both learn something.
>> Thank you for making it clear who the moron really is.
That's not necessary, and I mean that in all three ways.
10-15-2003, 03:02 AM
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djbit,
I just skimmed through the Green Party platform guide:
http://www.gp.org/platform/2000/index.html
I don't believe that you could have read that and still support the green party. Some of their material and the things Camejo said, might sound good. Some of it is meaningless and harmless, especially the overviews. But mention anything meaningful in the platform, or spoken by Camejo, and I will gladly expose it for what it is: venom. It is socialism distilled to its most grotesque and virulent essence, and I find it disgusting.
I just skimmed through the Green Party platform guide:
http://www.gp.org/platform/2000/index.html
I don't believe that you could have read that and still support the green party. Some of their material and the things Camejo said, might sound good. Some of it is meaningless and harmless, especially the overviews. But mention anything meaningful in the platform, or spoken by Camejo, and I will gladly expose it for what it is: venom. It is socialism distilled to its most grotesque and virulent essence, and I find it disgusting.
10-15-2003, 03:03 AM
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Well, I think increasing our vehicle license tax is fine but let it be incremental so people can save for it and/or prepare for it. Just having it go up by 300% in one shot is ********.
Yeh, Davis did not pass this originally, it was Wilson who signed on it to go into effect if CA's debt went into a an unbelievable hole. Who got us into that hole?
Didn't we have a huge surplus when Davis started? If you're the governor, the budget is ultimately in your hands. At least, you're in the position to have the best control over it.
So if Davis got us into the hole which set off the law to increase the tax, it's just like he passed the vehicle tax law himself; sort of speak.
Arnold, our newly elected governor, has stated on his first day as governor (although not officially sworn in) that he'll overturn the 300% increase in vehicle license tax. Hopefully, that'll happen before we have to pay that ridiculous rate (or for those who already paid, at least lower it the second time around).
Yeh, Davis did not pass this originally, it was Wilson who signed on it to go into effect if CA's debt went into a an unbelievable hole. Who got us into that hole?
Didn't we have a huge surplus when Davis started? If you're the governor, the budget is ultimately in your hands. At least, you're in the position to have the best control over it.
So if Davis got us into the hole which set off the law to increase the tax, it's just like he passed the vehicle tax law himself; sort of speak.
Arnold, our newly elected governor, has stated on his first day as governor (although not officially sworn in) that he'll overturn the 300% increase in vehicle license tax. Hopefully, that'll happen before we have to pay that ridiculous rate (or for those who already paid, at least lower it the second time around).
10-15-2003, 07:19 AM
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Originally posted by zland
Speaking of ironic, do you know how much energy is used to power the internet? Don't throw stones so quickly, try looking into the mirror and trying to change yourself before you judge others not fully knowing who they are and how they live their lives.
BTW, driving SUV/Mini vans can be more fuel efficient that driving a sports car if you consider hauling 5+ people at lets say 12mpg vs driving a sports car with only one person.
Speaking of ironic, do you know how much energy is used to power the internet? Don't throw stones so quickly, try looking into the mirror and trying to change yourself before you judge others not fully knowing who they are and how they live their lives.
BTW, driving SUV/Mini vans can be more fuel efficient that driving a sports car if you consider hauling 5+ people at lets say 12mpg vs driving a sports car with only one person.
BTW 350Z is lighter than I'd guess 1/2 the cars on the road...and has better aerodynamics...it gets better gas mileage than my old 4 cylinder Prelude.
BTW, we are not wasting energy using the itnernet. Electricity can not be stored efficiently, so if a plant is running at 80% capacity, 20% is being produced and wasted. So it should be our civic duty to run as many appliances as possible until we are at the brink of brown out, only then can we actually say no electricity is being wasted.
10-15-2003, 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by Mikestro
BTW, we are not wasting energy using the itnernet. Electricity can not be stored efficiently, so if a plant is running at 80% capacity, 20% is being produced and wasted. So it should be our civic duty to run as many appliances as possible until we are at the brink of brown out, only then can we actually say no electricity is being wasted.
BTW, we are not wasting energy using the itnernet. Electricity can not be stored efficiently, so if a plant is running at 80% capacity, 20% is being produced and wasted. So it should be our civic duty to run as many appliances as possible until we are at the brink of brown out, only then can we actually say no electricity is being wasted.
10-15-2003, 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by Mikestro
If you are concerned about energy consumption, there was a great thread on it a while back. Someone suggested exercise equipment that fed energy back in to the energy grid.
If you are concerned about energy consumption, there was a great thread on it a while back. Someone suggested exercise equipment that fed energy back in to the energy grid.
But how?
10-15-2003, 12:39 PM
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it would be an "exercise" (sorry the pun) to figure that out. Prolly need to do a business study.
In my opinion, you design it to fit in existing industrial designs for exercise equipment, then the guys who sell the equipment would just offer it as an option. People would prolly pay an extra $100 for an exercise bike if they thought it would reduce their electric bill by $10/month. You are essentially just removing gearing that is resistive and replacing it with an AC generator that generates 120V AC.
In my opinion, you design it to fit in existing industrial designs for exercise equipment, then the guys who sell the equipment would just offer it as an option. People would prolly pay an extra $100 for an exercise bike if they thought it would reduce their electric bill by $10/month. You are essentially just removing gearing that is resistive and replacing it with an AC generator that generates 120V AC.
10-15-2003, 01:17 PM
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Who cares about how much energy we use as long as we pay for it? The reason the man-made crisis existed in this state burnt through so much money was because Davis made the state pay for the price increases instead of passing that cost onto the consumer. We still owe that money. If the person who used the electricity had to pay more, they would be willing to conserve because it would have cost them actual dollars directly to waste electricity.
I don't know if people in other states have this, but in CA we have TV commercials telling us to conserve electricity. Every piece of correspondance we get from the state has a stamp that says "Flex your power." Here's the web site: http://www.fypower.com/ Somehow I bet that costs more money than it saves.
I don't know if people in other states have this, but in CA we have TV commercials telling us to conserve electricity. Every piece of correspondance we get from the state has a stamp that says "Flex your power." Here's the web site: http://www.fypower.com/ Somehow I bet that costs more money than it saves.
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