Some people get way too carried away when it comes to bashing the Z's auto tranny
06-13-2009, 05:18 PM
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Some people get way too carried away when it comes to bashing the Z's auto tranny
I don't know WTF is it with some people, but it seems like there is a very unnecessary abundance of e-thug boy racer wannabe's that have a very questionable hatred for any Z that has an automatic transmission. Now for starters I know that I don't have the best 350Z in the world, but I like to think that I have a damm nice one. I mean I put a lot of money, time, research, and work into getting my Z to where it is today, and yet it seems like there are some forum's out there where people just hate on my car endlessly just because of the transmission.
Now I am not the kind of person that really cares when someone has something negative to say about my car since I know what it is capable of, I love it, I know where I stand with it, and I wouldn't have it any other way. However I just can't help but to find it puzzling how some people can be such haters with my car, and completely disregard how well tuned and modified my car is and blindly consider it terrible and try to bash me for it just because it's got a torque converter. I mean I always thought you would have to be a complete ignorant moron to talk **** about a modified car that you have no conception over, but that's just me. I don't know if it's some kind of jealously inspired defense mechanism, or if some people are just that damm ignorant when it comes to transmissions, but I just don't understand where this all comes sometimes. It just all seems so completely... unnecessary.
Since when was it so bad to not conform to the same ideals as every one else and actually have a mind of your own? What happened to just simply respecting people's taste and work?
Now I am not the kind of person that really cares when someone has something negative to say about my car since I know what it is capable of, I love it, I know where I stand with it, and I wouldn't have it any other way. However I just can't help but to find it puzzling how some people can be such haters with my car, and completely disregard how well tuned and modified my car is and blindly consider it terrible and try to bash me for it just because it's got a torque converter. I mean I always thought you would have to be a complete ignorant moron to talk **** about a modified car that you have no conception over, but that's just me. I don't know if it's some kind of jealously inspired defense mechanism, or if some people are just that damm ignorant when it comes to transmissions, but I just don't understand where this all comes sometimes. It just all seems so completely... unnecessary.
Since when was it so bad to not conform to the same ideals as every one else and actually have a mind of your own? What happened to just simply respecting people's taste and work?
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06-13-2009, 06:43 PM
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sooooo...I have an auto too and i get **** from people too. But i don't really give a crap b/c i don't race it so it makes no difference to me.. yea would i like a manual of course. But i did not feel like taking the time to find a car with a manual. 
... Any way you have a supper charger with your auto? waht kind of power it making? i would love to put one in my car 
... Any way you have a supper charger with your auto? waht kind of power it making? i would love to put one in my car
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06-13-2009, 06:49 PM
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Two years in row at the Branson Z Fest my 07 AT has come in first in the Bracket Racing Event over many manuals both 350s and other Z years. I know what my car can do and just keep dialing in winning times. After they lose they don't do much bashing.
06-13-2009, 06:50 PM
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# When choosing between manual and automatic, one of the considerations is power.
* If you want the most power from your engine, going with a manual transmission versus an automatic is most likely going to be your best bet.
* While some modern automatic transmissions, i.e. CVT transmissions, manumatics, and conventional 4 or 5-speed automatic transmissions allow for some excellent acceleration, there is still usually a substantial difference in 0-60 times between these types of automatics and a 5 or 6-speed manual transmission.
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o For example, an automatic equipped Dodge Neon has a reported 0-60 MPH time of approximately 10.5 seconds.
o The same Neon when equipped with a 5-speed manual has a reported 0-60 time of 8.1 seconds; a huge difference.
* While most cars do not have this large of a 0-60 MPH gap between auto and manual transmissions, 99 percent of the time you will receive noticeably better performance from a manual gearbox.
# The acceleration offered from a vehicle when equipped with a manual transmission is usually superior for a number of reasons; most predominantly due to gear ratios and the availability for more precise shifting. To explain, if you own a car that receives 200 horsepower @ 7,000 RPM, but your automatic transmission will up-shift under full throttle at only 6,000 RPM, you probably will never feel the full amount of power that your engine was made to offer. So, your engine may be stamped with a 200 horsepower rating, but because your car is equipped with an automatic that up-shifts too soon, you may be missing up to 20% of available power. On the other side, with most manual transmissions, you can usually take the engine revs to redline (or past). This enables you to get the most power possible to the front, rear, or all 4 wheels under full throttle take-offs.
* If you want the most power from your engine, going with a manual transmission versus an automatic is most likely going to be your best bet.
* While some modern automatic transmissions, i.e. CVT transmissions, manumatics, and conventional 4 or 5-speed automatic transmissions allow for some excellent acceleration, there is still usually a substantial difference in 0-60 times between these types of automatics and a 5 or 6-speed manual transmission.
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o For example, an automatic equipped Dodge Neon has a reported 0-60 MPH time of approximately 10.5 seconds.
o The same Neon when equipped with a 5-speed manual has a reported 0-60 time of 8.1 seconds; a huge difference.
* While most cars do not have this large of a 0-60 MPH gap between auto and manual transmissions, 99 percent of the time you will receive noticeably better performance from a manual gearbox.
# The acceleration offered from a vehicle when equipped with a manual transmission is usually superior for a number of reasons; most predominantly due to gear ratios and the availability for more precise shifting. To explain, if you own a car that receives 200 horsepower @ 7,000 RPM, but your automatic transmission will up-shift under full throttle at only 6,000 RPM, you probably will never feel the full amount of power that your engine was made to offer. So, your engine may be stamped with a 200 horsepower rating, but because your car is equipped with an automatic that up-shifts too soon, you may be missing up to 20% of available power. On the other side, with most manual transmissions, you can usually take the engine revs to redline (or past). This enables you to get the most power possible to the front, rear, or all 4 wheels under full throttle take-offs.
06-13-2009, 07:59 PM
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screw what others say. big deal if you get an auto. maybe some people don't know how to drive stick, or maybe they just prefer auto. It's a matter of personal choice, so I don't know why people make a big deal out of it. Sure, it's a sports car, but not all sports cars are manual.
OP, it sucks when people hate, especially when they ask "why did you dump so much money on an auto?" I've learned to get over it because I enjoy my Z. I did most of the work, I take the painstaking time to detail it and make it look good on a daily basis. As long as YOU'RE happy with the car, which is appearent, that's all that matters. Let the haters hate and the ignorant be stubborn.
06-13-2009, 08:05 PM
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# When choosing between manual and automatic, one of the considerations is power.
* While some modern automatic transmissions, i.e. CVT transmissions, manumatics, and conventional 4 or 5-speed automatic transmissions allow for some excellent acceleration, there is still usually a substantial difference in 0-60 times between these types of automatics and a 5 or 6-speed manual transmission.
* While some modern automatic transmissions, i.e. CVT transmissions, manumatics, and conventional 4 or 5-speed automatic transmissions allow for some excellent acceleration, there is still usually a substantial difference in 0-60 times between these types of automatics and a 5 or 6-speed manual transmission.
It basically comes down to personal preference and driver ability.
Whichever transmission, the Z is sweet. Ignore the bashers..
06-13-2009, 08:19 PM
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I agree. Ignore the ignorant bashers.
I've driven an 5AT and while I like my 6MT, the 5AT is an exceptionally good transmission. In fact, Nissan was the first to have a "blip to downshift" 5AT, and we're only just getting that in the 370Z 6MT. The 5AT is one of the better "manumatics" in that it's almost impossible to fool into an undesired upshift.
In the "old days" an automatic transmission seemed to "have a mind of its own." Those days are ancient history -- at least as far as the Nissan 5AT (and now 7AT in the 370Z).
I've driven an 5AT and while I like my 6MT, the 5AT is an exceptionally good transmission. In fact, Nissan was the first to have a "blip to downshift" 5AT, and we're only just getting that in the 370Z 6MT. The 5AT is one of the better "manumatics" in that it's almost impossible to fool into an undesired upshift.
In the "old days" an automatic transmission seemed to "have a mind of its own." Those days are ancient history -- at least as far as the Nissan 5AT (and now 7AT in the 370Z).
06-13-2009, 09:58 PM
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I agree, as long as your driving a z, your all ready a hell of a lot better off than most people out there. the transmission is just a preference, not something to hate on. Im a 6mt fan myself, but i have to admit, the 370z has one of the crispest ATs ive ever driven! (and im a valet, so ive driven LOTS of NICE cars)
06-13-2009, 11:43 PM
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people bash me all the time for my auto, then we hit the strip and they all shut up. if you love your car like i do, and i cannot drive a 6spd like i want to cause of a messed up knee, then who cares, i tell the hates to **** off. i drive a z because i love it. nuff said let the haters hate
06-14-2009, 12:04 AM
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OP, it sucks when people hate, especially when they ask "why did you dump so much money on an auto?" I've learned to get over it because I enjoy my Z. I did most of the work, I take the painstaking time to detail it and make it look good on a daily basis. As long as YOU'RE happy with the car, which is appearent, that's all that matters. Let the haters hate and the ignorant be stubborn.
no one will know unless they ride in your car.
06-14-2009, 03:30 AM
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they quiet down after they realize that no matter how much effort they put in, they can not beat a computer shifting, it will do the same thing everytime you accelerate.
