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Old 10-17-2012, 03:23 PM
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Btw..there is actually no actual valid "argument" here.
Everyone in.the world hates teens..
Its the way it is. In japan, Nigeria, and elk grove Illinois. Lol.

Even teens hate teens..!
27-34 yr olds hate teens.
35-44 yr olds hate teens.
45-64 yr olds hate teens.
65-84 yr olds hate everyone.

Ur in luck tho teens : your 5 year old kid sister adores you...AND... soon ul be in the 27+ bracket I mentioned and then.......YOULL HATE TEENS TOO, mark my ever lovin words haha.
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Originally Posted by K350Z52
Wow! You have a B.A? AWESOME me too! I'm in my masters program as well! we could be twins! I hold 2 Jobs!! oh I got mine at 17... sukks to sukk dude. lol
When you get a real job, you only need one.
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Old 10-17-2012, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by K350Z52
Wow! You have a B.A? AWESOME me too! I'm in my masters program as well! we could be twins! I hold 2 Jobs!! oh I got mine at 17... sukks to sukk dude. lol
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Originally Posted by Hraesvelg
When you get a real job, you only need one.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by K350Z52
Wow! You have a B.A? AWESOME me too! I'm in my masters program as well! we could be twins! I hold 2 Jobs!! oh I got mine at 17... sukks to sukk dude. lol
Originally Posted by Hraesvelg
When you get a real job, you only need one.
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:22 AM
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My youngest daughter just turned 16 and I handed down my Z to her. She makes good grades and isn't pregnant yet so that's good enough for me.
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Old 10-18-2012, 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Hraesvelg
When you get a real job, you only need one.
...and he's back! Let the entertainment begin!
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Phill361
My youngest daughter just turned 16 and I handed down my Z to her. She makes good grades and isn't pregnant yet so that's good enough for me.
Giving her a sweet car isn't helping her keep up the pregnancy part

Haha all joking aside, female teens are nothing like male teens as a generalized statement. They're generally safer behind the wheel and they deserve a car that is reliable to limit the chances they'll find themselves in danger on the side of the road.

Double standards
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by zswickliffe
Giving her a sweet car isn't helping her keep up the pregnancy part

Haha all joking aside, female teens are nothing like male teens as a generalized statement. They're generally safer behind the wheel and they deserve a car that is reliable to limit the chances they'll find themselves in danger on the side of the road.

Double standards
Why, because they don't do donuts and burnouts to showoff for their girlfriends? They're still as uncoordinated as a meth head in a fun house and most likely have no qualms about texting their bffs while driving either. Female teens are worse than male teens if anything.
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Phenom
Why, because they don't do donuts and burnouts to showoff for their girlfriends? They're still as uncoordinated as a meth head in a fun house and most likely have no qualms about texting their bffs while driving either. Female teens are worse than male teens if anything.
I'm speaking statistically. 16-25 year old men are the highest risk driver on the road.

And girls tend to get in fender benders a lot (I was rear-ended by one) but it's often not a terrible 80+ mph slide in a rwd car they couldn't handle. It's related to paying attention and would have happened in any car.

Here's a study I found real quickly:

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/artic...umentid=788126

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Old 10-18-2012, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Phill361
My youngest daughter just turned 16 and I handed down my Z to her. She makes good grades and isn't pregnant yet so that's good enough for me.
(A child should earn something so expensive)

....so dumb. And you'll probably be SHOCKED when its wrecked...

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Old 10-18-2012, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by zswickliffe
I'm speaking statistically. 16-25 year old men are the highest risk driver on the road.

And girls tend to get in fender benders a lot (I was rear-ended by one) but it's often not a terrible 80+ mph slide in a rwd car they couldn't handle. It's related to paying attention and would have happened in any car.

Here's a study I found real quickly:

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/artic...umentid=788126
I hate when traffic citations are used to prove someone is a bad driver. I've had this argument more than once at defensive driving courses. Someone who breaks traffic laws isn't a bad driver as in unskilled, they are an unlawful driver. An unskilled driver causes accidents/near misses, is bad at getting the car to do exactly what they want it to do, and generally has no clue what's going on around them.

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Old 10-18-2012, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Phenom
I hate when traffic citations are used to prove someone is a bad driver. I've had this argument more than once at defensive driving courses. Someone who breaks traffic laws isn't a bad driver as in unskilled, they are an unlawful driver. An unskilled driver causes accidents/near misses, is bad at getting the car to do exactly what they want it to do, and generally has no clue what's going on around them.
I was referring to the accident statistics... Second table that shows males from 16-19 are 2.3 times more likely to crash.
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Old 10-18-2012, 07:13 AM
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He is right though Phenom, 16-25 year old drivers who are male, are retarded by hormones and puberty and they can easily do something stupid in their car, or they think they "know what they are doing" or "are comfortable with their car" so they race or do donuts in the middle of the street, i know this because i have been there before, we were all those stupid teens once before.
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Old 10-18-2012, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Hraesvelg
When you get a real job, you only need one.
I've missed those short and dead on accurate thoughts, lol.

Originally Posted by Phenom
I hate when traffic citations are used to prove someone is a bad driver. I've had this argument more than once at defensive driving courses. Someone who breaks traffic laws isn't a bad driver as in unskilled, they are an unlawful driver. An unskilled driver causes accidents/near misses, is bad at getting the car to do exactly what they want it to do, and generally has no clue what's going on around them.
Well said.
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jninja26
(A child should earn something so expensive)

....so dumb. And you'll probably be SHOCKED when its wrecked...
She's been driving it for six months with no accidents yet. She's a pretty safe driver.
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Speaking only for myself, and having 20 and 23 year old daughters, I just don't get why a 16 year old would need a car like a 350. 16 year olds need transportation, nothing more. If it is nice comfortable transportation, better still. If it is 300 HP not so much. The Z ain't no Porsche or whatever, but it is still pretty much a high performance sports car, which doesn't mix well with rookie drivers. IMHO only of course - it's your kid.
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Phill361
My youngest daughter just turned 16 and I handed down my Z to her. She makes good grades and isn't pregnant yet so that's good enough for me.
Dude, that was a mistake!
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Girl near me had this as her first car, all your arguments are irrelevant.



I remember she drove that **** to SAT practice.
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Originally Posted by zswickliffe
Giving her a sweet car isn't helping her keep up the pregnancy part

Haha all joking aside, female teens are nothing like male teens as a generalized statement. They're generally safer behind the wheel and they deserve a car that is reliable to limit the chances they'll find themselves in danger on the side of the road.

Double standards
Yeah, that's definitely not Phill's Z!
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Originally Posted by Phill361
She's been driving it for six months with no accidents yet. She's a pretty safe driver.
Haha, that guy said so dumb!
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