Proof! - please!
frankly i think it stupid, that these aka older guys are upset/jelous because they didnt get the what some of the people half there age. Yes, younger kids are more likely to not think of the repercution of there actions as a more mature adult would. I have had my Z sense i was 18 and im about to be 22 this dec. I have not gotten one single car accident or speeding ticket.
Im sorry but i dont see what wrong with 1. a young kid buying a car like this, apparently he was mature enough to save up that dough for it 2. If a parent gets a car like this for there child then they want to give them what they couldnt get when they were young/ or just want to be able to give there child a good childhood and hope that it make them strive to get a education. What i dont agree on is that a parent knows there child the best and if the parent thinks there child is immature or wouldnt make a good decison in the car then they should be strong and not get them something like that. Either way this is coming from a person when he got his Z he wasnt a dad to now Im a dad with a Z with a 2yr old child.
Im sorry but i dont see what wrong with 1. a young kid buying a car like this, apparently he was mature enough to save up that dough for it 2. If a parent gets a car like this for there child then they want to give them what they couldnt get when they were young/ or just want to be able to give there child a good childhood and hope that it make them strive to get a education. What i dont agree on is that a parent knows there child the best and if the parent thinks there child is immature or wouldnt make a good decison in the car then they should be strong and not get them something like that. Either way this is coming from a person when he got his Z he wasnt a dad to now Im a dad with a Z with a 2yr old child.
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Trust me.
We take pride in what we have earned, not what life has given us. If your parents don't make you pay for college, then yes, you can afford a Z at 17 working part time at McDonalds. Your payments will be pretty much all of your money, but that is the card life dealt you. Being car poor. After all, you can always hit up the rents for a few bucks to take a date out and it's not like you're paying for your own food, housing, insurance, gas, or anything else around the house. Although I'm sure you're a good little boy and take out the trash once a week.
The point is that we're not inclined to help little kids who want to do stupid things to their cars and get pissy at us when we make fun of them for blowing their money. It will all come around when they hit the real world.
Bottom line: We're just having fun at your expense. Deal with it or get out.
Yes, we all know coil overs are the better route but you cant say what he has done to the car is bad. Im not a big fan of 20" rims but they dont look to bad on the car and there is def. some gap. The thing is if he true not even going to do any tracking or drag racing then he should get springs and after market shocks.
It's not your age that got everyone. It was the convince my dad comment. I'm 17 and even I wanted to flame you for that.
You'll be fine with springs.You don't NEED coilovers and you also don't NEED volks. There are plenty of other choices that will do the job just fine.
You'll be fine with springs.You don't NEED coilovers and you also don't NEED volks. There are plenty of other choices that will do the job just fine.
ya, but see there has to be a balance of power. His dad was nice enough to pay his insurance so his dad feel he has a little bit of a say so in what he puts on the car. He is just giving respect, as a good child should do. As for hpka comment you and i both know he should get shocks to make sure his stock ones dont go out(so his dad doesnt do "Hey, this is why i didnt want you to do the springs." Op if you convince your dad make sure you dont leave any loose ends later on for him to say " i told ya so." OP the best of luck to you.
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ya, but see there has to be a balance of power. His dad was nice enough to pay his insurance so his dad feel he has a little bit of a say so in what he puts on the car. He is just giving respect, as a good child should do. As for hpka comment you and i both know he should get shocks to make sure his stock ones dont go out(so his dad doesnt do "Hey, this is why i didnt want you to do the springs." Op if you convince your dad make sure you dont leave any loose ends later on for him to say " i told ya so." OP the best of luck to you.
This is why some of the "older" folk here have issues with kids being handed things. It's what's NOT being taught moreso than what IS being taught. I don't understand how this is being missed...
So i just got my 20's and im looking into Hotchkis Sport lowering springs to clear up the gap a little...i showed my dad and he refuses to let me buy them.
why? reasons:
1. "i used to work on cars and these just make your wheels grind on the upper fender! Especially on speed bumps!" claims dad...
2. "if you bottom out, the dealership wont even go near your car!" more wise words.
so a drop thats less than an inch will make my wheels rub my fender and will cause me to bottom out? i think not.
my goal here is to get as much input as possible, either proving me wrong or proving my dad wrong. so post up!
why? reasons:
1. "i used to work on cars and these just make your wheels grind on the upper fender! Especially on speed bumps!" claims dad...
2. "if you bottom out, the dealership wont even go near your car!" more wise words.
so a drop thats less than an inch will make my wheels rub my fender and will cause me to bottom out? i think not.
my goal here is to get as much input as possible, either proving me wrong or proving my dad wrong. so post up!
well its your car!!
i bought my own car, with my own money.
and if you would have actually read through the thread, you would know that i was on a tight budget and got brand new, brand name wheels and tires for $1200. vs paying 1600 for 19" off brand wheels and tires.
and as for college, i received multiple scholarships and have been accepted to the University of Hawaii at Manoa on a full ride.
but anyways, i just want help, thats all im asking for...so please?
and if you would have actually read through the thread, you would know that i was on a tight budget and got brand new, brand name wheels and tires for $1200. vs paying 1600 for 19" off brand wheels and tires.
and as for college, i received multiple scholarships and have been accepted to the University of Hawaii at Manoa on a full ride.
but anyways, i just want help, thats all im asking for...so please?
? do you have stick on vents and a chrome turbo sticker too? lol well anyway, just roll your fenders and no spacers and you will be fine, just go slow and sideways on drivesways and speed bumps.
No, the respectful thing to do here is to say, " yes, sir." and leave the car stock until it's truly HIS car... If he has ANY extra money it should go towards his insurance or any other expenses his parents are paying for.
This is why some of the "older" folk here have issues with kids being handed things. It's what's NOT being taught moreso than what IS being taught. I don't understand how this is being missed...
This is why some of the "older" folk here have issues with kids being handed things. It's what's NOT being taught moreso than what IS being taught. I don't understand how this is being missed...
You got 2x more to try
What? Which one is it?
Seriously though. If you can't (or don't want to?) pay for your own insurance I think you have bigger priorities than to be modding your car. While I understand those springs are a really mild drop that you might not run into suspension problems, are you going to be able to buy these if the need arrises?
Also, while these may not be the best examples, have you looked at how much tires in 20"s cost?
One set of good tires is basically the cost of what you picked up your rims for.
As one member already stated the least you could do is roll your fenders to try and prevent rubbing.
With such a mild drop bottoming out should not be a problem unless your really careless.
P.S. Go attend any track event and try calling yourself an "excellent" driver when 100hp Miatas consistently lap much better times than you. Saying you have excellent mannerisms and record on the road? Sure. An excellent driver? Not even close.
Seriously though. If you can't (or don't want to?) pay for your own insurance I think you have bigger priorities than to be modding your car. While I understand those springs are a really mild drop that you might not run into suspension problems, are you going to be able to buy these if the need arrises?
Also, while these may not be the best examples, have you looked at how much tires in 20"s cost?
One set of good tires is basically the cost of what you picked up your rims for.
As one member already stated the least you could do is roll your fenders to try and prevent rubbing.
With such a mild drop bottoming out should not be a problem unless your really careless.
P.S. Go attend any track event and try calling yourself an "excellent" driver when 100hp Miatas consistently lap much better times than you. Saying you have excellent mannerisms and record on the road? Sure. An excellent driver? Not even close.
as for that tire site you copied such bad deals. tire monkey (.) com has 275 30 20 for $100.
and i love how you guys act like the second you put 20's on your car it's undrivable because it handles so bad.
when actually no it doesnt and the stock rims are quite heavy themselfs.
you guys realize corvett z06's come stock with 20's now right?
yes 20's are not the best size rims for a z. do they work? yes. can they look good? yes depending on offsets. will he regrett buying these in the feture? depends on what he wants to do with his car maybe. and oh well he's out $500 bucks.
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Im sorry but i dont think any father willings pay for his son insurance if he doesnt want to.... Also, ever thought he does so he has some lil control of his son?? I mean honestly lets say the kids saves up enough money to pay for 1 month of insurance and to buy his parts hmm kinda defeats what the Father was trying to do..... Im sorry but you dont really have anything to stand on that one.
You got 2x more to try
You got 2x more to try
Are you saying the Dad pays for the insurance to have some control of his son, and at the same time teach him some kind of lesson?
The rims aren't going to make his car any more dangerous than it already is to an inexperienced 17 yr. old driver, so just the fact he bought his kid a rwd sports car takes any control away from him.
And what lesson could he possibly be teaching his child by paying for his insurance?? Furthermore, why pay insurance on a rwd sportscar?? Why not something a little more practical and safe? I realize OP feels he has years of driving under his belt (thus the "best driver in all the land" idiocy) but to introduce a rwd sports car to a 17 yr. old is quite possibly the most irresponsible thing a parent could do in terms of teenage driving.
How old are you, btw?
EDIT: nevermind, just saw you are 21...
Last edited by billsrcursed; Nov 18, 2010 at 08:03 PM.