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Old 07-27-2023 | 09:23 AM
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I went out somewhere and while I was driving the car out of nowhere the car started making a really loud noise and shaking and when I parked the car won’t even move at 3k rpm and when the clutch is almost fully out it will try to but it’s getting stopped by the brakes or something. Any ideas?
Old 07-27-2023 | 09:33 AM
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only way to get an idea of whats going on is by jacking the car up and taking a look under there. Can be multiple things. I suggest towing back home and getting under there and take a look. Good luck
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As bre240 mentioned, your best bet is to get the vehicle towed for a closer inspection. Either home or to a shop if you don't have the appropriate tools or knowledge to diagnose.

Failure possibilities...
Broken axle (what I suspect)
Broken driveshaft
Broken clutch/pressure plate
Broken transmission/gears
Broken/seized differential
Broken wheel bearing
Broken/seized brake caliper (unlikely)

All of these are serious/catastrophic failure modes. DO NOT drive the vehicle in it's current state, additional damage may result.

Can you better describe the "loud noise" and "shaking" you observed? Is this happening while parked in neutral, engine on? Does this only happen while attempting to drive the vehicle in gear? Is the loud noise metallic sounding? Is it a banging/knocking sound or more like a grinding/whirring?

If you don't know, best to get it towed to a pro for deeper inspection. We here on the forums can only help so much in situations like this. The more detailed information that can be provided the better, but without hands/eyes on the vehicle it's mostly best guesses and speculation.
Good Luck!
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As bre240 mentioned, your best bet is to get the vehicle towed for a closer inspection. Either home or to a shop if you don't have the appropriate tools or knowledge to diagnose.

Failure possibilities...
Broken axle (what I suspect)
Broken driveshaft
Broken clutch/pressure plate
Broken transmission/gears
Broken/seized differential
Broken wheel bearing
Broken/seized brake caliper (unlikely)

All of these are serious/catastrophic failure modes. DO NOT drive the vehicle in it's current state, additional damage may result.

Can you better describe the "loud noise" and "shaking" you observed? Is this happening while parked in neutral, engine on? Does this only happen while attempting to drive the vehicle in gear? Is the loud noise metallic sounding? Is it a banging/knocking sound or more like a grinding/whirring?

If you don't know, best to get it towed to a pro for deeper inspection. We here on the forums can only help so much in situations like this. The more detailed information that can be provided the better, but without hands/eyes on the vehicle it's mostly best guesses and speculation.
Good Luck!
-Icer
When I was able to slowly get it to a parking spot I put the e brake down all the way and foot off the brake and try to go forward I get to 3-4k rpms and it doesn’t move it nudges forward just a bit but once I stop it goes back to where it was. But if I try going past that and move the car it make a very loud noise I honestly don’t know how to explain the noise but it’s a continuing thing until I get the car to a full stop and then at the same time it shakes violently the entire car does like I can see my rear view mirror shaking with the car. Nothing was visually wrong with it from what I was able to look at I didn’t feel anything wrong with the clutch/transmission and nothing has gone wrong prior to it I’ve had a couple of problems with my rear suspension I found out the other day that I need to replace my rear wheel bearing and cv axel I planned on doing that this weekend when I had time
And my rear brakes at the same time because one of my rotors and calipers was excessively worn on only one side of it
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from the sounds of it the wheel bearing was on its way out and finally probably gave out. Also seems like that brake caliper is probably stuck not letting the car move freely. Sounds like its various parts that maybe damaged here. Were you driving the car aggressively and then this happened?
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Based on the description, you have a broken axle at a minimum. The diff is just spinning the broken axle (instead of giving power to the good wheel), making it flop around, causing the noise and vibration. What caused the axle to break is more complicated to surmise, but I would imagine it's related to the suspected bad wheel bearing. I have a feeling the ONLY thing holding that wheel on right now is the brake caliper bracket and rotor (insanely dangerous to attempt to drive). Get it towed and investigate.

Fingers crossed you don't have control arm or suspension/wheel damage, also hoping the caliper + bracket aren't bent, but don't be surprised if they are (based on description of the rotor, I think they are toast). Axles and wheel bearings aren't very expensive or difficult to fix/replace. Z1 offers a decent 370Z axle upgrade kit which includes the wheel bearings + hub assemblies and axles for both rear wheels. It's cheaper when you compare to OEM 350Z components. If I was in your shoes, I would probably get the Z1 upgrade kit. The 370Z bearings are beefier and less prone to failure.
Good Luck!
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exactly what Icer said. Definitely look into that Z1 upgrade kit.
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Originally Posted by icer5160
Based on the description, you have a broken axle at a minimum. The diff is just spinning the broken axle (instead of giving power to the good wheel), making it flop around, causing the noise and vibration. What caused the axle to break is more complicated to surmise, but I would imagine it's related to the suspected bad wheel bearing. I have a feeling the ONLY thing holding that wheel on right now is the brake caliper bracket and rotor (insanely dangerous to attempt to drive). Get it towed and investigate.

Fingers crossed you don't have control arm or suspension/wheel damage, also hoping the caliper + bracket aren't bent, but don't be surprised if they are (based on description of the rotor, I think they are toast). Axles and wheel bearings aren't very expensive or difficult to fix/replace. Z1 offers a decent 370Z axle upgrade kit which includes the wheel bearings + hub assemblies and axles for both rear wheels. It's cheaper when you compare to OEM 350Z components. If I was in your shoes, I would probably get the Z1 upgrade kit. The 370Z bearings are beefier and less prone to failure.
Good Luck!
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Alright thanks so much for the information Bre and icer it was a big help. I’ve been waiting for a tow so I’ll get back whenever I’m able to jack it up and get a better look at it.
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I think you need to drop the clutch at much higher rpm. Try 6600. These cars are known for going slow
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Originally Posted by iideadeyeii
I think you need to drop the clutch at much higher rpm. Try 6600. These cars are known for going slow
Sadly that’s not the case
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have you had a chance to get under there?
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Originally Posted by bre240z
have you had a chance to get under there?
Not yet I’ve been at work all day I get off early tomorrow so I’ll be looking at it then
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Originally Posted by bre240z
have you had a chance to get under there?
So I think I’ve figured out what it is, my wheel bearing the bearings fell out from the hub when I took my rotor off. But now I have another problem I literally cannot take off the back nuts on the cv axle to take it off.
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Originally Posted by JuicenoTenshi
So I think I’ve figured out what it is, my wheel bearing the bearings fell out from the hub when I took my rotor off. But now I have another problem I literally cannot take off the back nuts on the cv axle to take it off.
soak them in PB blaster and heat them... the will come off but you may have to work at it
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Originally Posted by Enriquez2000
soak them in PB blaster and heat them... the will come off but you may have to work at it
I spent probably 4 hours spraying pb blaster and trying to get it off wasn't able to get something to heat it ill try that tomorrow thanks.
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yea those can be tough to break. Use a good impact gun.
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I had to use a breaker bar and a closed end wrench to crack the CV axle bolts + nuts free. My little DeWalt 3/8 cordless impact wasn't up to the task, also the axle gets in the way of a straight socket, so you need to use a wobble impact socket to really get on there, even then you may find that clearance is very tight.
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Use one of these. I have one and itll loosen up almost anything


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Originally Posted by icer5160
I had to use a breaker bar and a closed end wrench to crack the CV axle bolts + nuts free. My little DeWalt 3/8 cordless impact wasn't up to the task, also the axle gets in the way of a straight socket, so you need to use a wobble impact socket to really get on there, even then you may find that clearance is very tight.
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Okay, sorry for the late response guys but I ended up figuring it out and the rear right wheel hub was completely gone to the point where I have a cup filled with all the bearings from the wheel hub and it was in multiple pieces ended up replacing it and it it doesn’t make the noise anymore. Thanks for the help going to have a shop look at it when I get an alignment and see how big that bills going to be.
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Originally Posted by icer5160
As bre240 mentioned, your best bet is to get the vehicle towed for a closer inspection. Either home or to a shop if you don't have the appropriate tools or knowledge to diagnose.

Failure possibilities...
Broken axle (what I suspect)
Broken driveshaft
Broken clutch/pressure plate
Broken transmission/gears
Broken/seized differential
Broken wheel bearing
Broken/seized brake caliper (unlikely)

All of these are serious/catastrophic failure modes. DO NOT drive the vehicle in it's current state, additional damage may result.

Can you better describe the "loud noise" and "shaking" you observed? Is this happening while parked in neutral, engine on? Does this only happen while attempting to drive the vehicle in gear? Is the loud noise metallic sounding? Is it a banging/knocking sound or more like a grinding/whirring?
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If you don't know, best to get it towed to a pro for deeper inspection. We here on the forums can only help so much in situations like this. The more detailed information that can be provided the better, but without hands/eyes on the vehicle it's mostly best guesses and speculation.
Good Luck!
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Thank you for telling me in such detail about all this.


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