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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 08:23 AM
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The notion that the S2000 is a better track car than a 350z is simply a lie. On most tracks the Z will beat an S2000 or RX-8 pretty handily.

Here are some lap times of cars which are stock save a rollcage and safety gear with the same tires around Heartland Park Topeka (a technical track, not just a wide oval or something) with pro drivers:

350Z - 1:48.590
RX8 - 1:50.489
S2000 - 1:50.270 (same driver as 350Z)

2 seconds is a lot of time on a track.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 12:09 PM
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Yes i'm bumping this ***** up...I don't get how all these s2k guys are over here trying to sell us some bullsh*t, and people here are buying most of it.


I know I don't have much experience with the track, I actually drag my 350, and I have plenty of experience facing s2k's and to be honest, they're ***** cars at the drags. Yes they weren't built for it, but neither was the Z. They aren't looked at with any kind of fear by anyone at the drag strips that I go to. People tend to group them with the RSX's, Rx8's and miata's in terms of straight line performance.

The Z takes this argument for the simple reason that the Z will play with you in any ring, at the drag strip, at a track and during a street race on the freeway, plus the numbers people are pushing with these modded V6's leave the s2k's behind.

Take what I wrote for whatever you would like, but of the hundreds of times i've actually dragged my car i've never had to worry about my Z losing to an s2k, even though neither car was built for a straight line fight.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Zendem
Take what I wrote for whatever you would like, but of the hundreds of times i've actually dragged my car i've never had to worry about my Z losing to an s2k, even though neither car was built for a straight line fight.
You need to find some faster S2000's. They are out there. That's like me saying I've never had to worry about a Z although I know there's plenty out there with 1.5-2 times the power.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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You need to find some faster S2000's. They are out there. That's like me saying I've never had to worry about a Z although I know there's plenty out there with 1.5-2 times the power.
But are they? And are bolt on S2k's really anything to worry about? I've read they might even lose power in some occasions.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sean10mm
The notion that the S2000 is a better track car than a 350z is simply a lie. On most tracks the Z will beat an S2000 or RX-8 pretty handily.

Here are some lap times of cars which are stock save a rollcage and safety gear with the same tires around Heartland Park Topeka (a technical track, not just a wide oval or something) with pro drivers:

350Z - 1:48.590
RX8 - 1:50.489
S2000 - 1:50.270 (same driver as 350Z)

2 seconds is a lot of time on a track.
I'm also very sick of this myth, bring the Z against the S2k in any ring and i'm putting my money on the Z.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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That's because they all Honda nutswingers. As far as I can remember, Honda has been at the bottom of the totem pole when it comes to high performance cars. Hondas are built for quality & efficient fuel consumption. But then again, anybody can even make a Daewoo fast if they had the money.
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Zendem
But are they? And are bolt on S2k's really anything to worry about? I've read they might even lose power in some occasions.
Nope, not for an HR Z.
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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The 350 and s2000 are top notch from the factory... you wont get anything special from bolt-ons.... the only way you can make a huge difference with power is forced induction enough said... The only time the s2000 is quicker then the Z is high end the Z eats it up low end with all the torque
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jasabeast
The 350 and s2000 are top notch from the factory... you wont get anything special from bolt-ons.... the only way you can make a huge difference with power is forced induction enough said... The only time the s2000 is quicker then the Z is high end the Z eats it up low end with all the torque
How does the S2000 take the Z up top when the Z has more HP?
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ZR_Yancy
How does the S2000 take the Z up top when the Z has more HP?
It doesn't.
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jasabeast
The 350 and s2000 are top notch from the factory... you wont get anything special from bolt-ons.... the only way you can make a huge difference with power is forced induction enough said... The only time the s2000 is quicker then the Z is high end the Z eats it up low end with all the torque
Let's take a step back and revise this statement you just made... You can't be serious...
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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it doesnt matter about who has more hp lol.. its how the car is tuned the Z is faster low end which gives up high end power the s2000 has ZERO low end power and all high end which is why they redline at 8000 to 9000 depending on if its AP1 or AP2.. They have the Z on top end speed thats all
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Originally Posted by _STEVEO_01
Let's take a step back and revise this statement you just made... You can't be serious...
Dude seriously though a exhaust or intake what ever your not gonna get much more power lol... its tuned to go its not a piece of sh*t civic where anything after market is 100x better.. if you go all motor your gonna spend way to much money.. just boost it and youll get more HP and spend less money
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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Can't we all just get along? Lol. I was reading this thread; I have an S2000 actually(on a Z forum, I know...) I'm 6'2, but I'm pretty thin, and my car fits me like a glove.

I work at Altered, so I'm around Zs all day. I used to work at a Nissan dealer, so I drove them on a daily basis and I love the Z too. Feels a bit more sluggish than an S, but it makes up for the weight with the torque of 3 and a half litres and 2 extra cylinders.

I wouldn't say one is better than the other, they're just different cars is all. They both perform well on the track, and they are both good street cars.

And as far as the girl car comments; its true girls love the looks of the S but to be totally honest, I've never seen another S on the road with a woman behind the wheel. As a matter of fact, I've seen more girls in Zs than S2000s. Probably because the car is not the smoothest, most comfortable car out there. And they're only available in a MT, so girls prefer to get a VW cabrio or something.
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Originally Posted by jasabeast
The 350 and s2000 are top notch from the factory... you wont get anything special from bolt-ons.... the only way you can make a huge difference with power is forced induction enough said... The only time the s2000 is quicker then the Z is high end the Z eats it up low end with all the torque
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it doesnt matter about who has more hp lol.. its how the car is tuned the Z is faster low end which gives up high end power the s2000 has ZERO low end power and all high end which is why they redline at 8000 to 9000 depending on if its AP1 or AP2.. They have the Z on top end speed thats all
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Dude seriously though a exhaust or intake what ever your not gonna get much more power lol... its tuned to go its not a piece of sh*t civic where anything after market is 100x better.. if you go all motor your gonna spend way to much money.. just boost it and youll get more HP and spend less money
I wasn't going to do it, but you called me out... So now I have to squash your narrow thinking azz ("Mr Know It All")

First of all, understand that torque is torque. Whether it is low end or high end. The Z will eat the S2000 alive from a roll or a dig, stock for stock. The significant thing the S has over the Z (depending on model) is the rpm redline of 8,000-9,000 compared to that of the Z, which is 7,000-7,500. Big freakin deal. It doesn't matter to me that jr. thinks it is cool that he reaches a higher RPM than mine on his tach, when I am looking in my rear view mirror in my Z33 HR and see nothing but lots of space and opportunity (and yes, more than one s2000 has faltered and failed).

Secondly, the 350 and the S2000 both are great cars (so no, I am not in denial) and have greater performance potential from that out of the factory, thus, they are not "top notch" off the lot as you so carelessly stated. If they were, people wouldn't mod them whether it be bolt on's or forced induction. I can attest to the HR being very responsive with the right bolt on's alone which can yield 300 horses to the wheels with a nice tune/reflash. That alone is significant. I NEVER stated that whoever has the most hp is faster, alot of things can come into play to be the determining factor, from the skills of the driver, power/weight ratio, type of racing), and the list goes on and on... I could be here all day on this subject... In a nutshell, just because the Z has great low end torque, doesn't mean that it gives up high end torque or power for that matter. To let you in on a little secret, THE HIGH END IS WHERE THE Z SHINES . That's a fact.

And Last... Don't attempt to give me any more of your "lessons". I have done the forced induction, all out stroker/built motor, tuning thing so I am not new to the game by any means mmmkay Seriously...
Yes, I have driven a boosted S, and a boosted Z... Yes I agree with you that the S has a higher top end speed (stock) than that of the Z, but not significantly... To sum it all up, The Z is better in every way as far as I am concerned and I am sure MANY can attest to that... So before you go off writing shiet your azz can't cash, think before you type Time to wake up from your little dream, welcome to the real world...

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Originally Posted by jasabeast
it doesnt matter about who has more hp lol.. its how the car is tuned the Z is faster low end which gives up high end power the s2000 has ZERO low end power and all high end which is why they redline at 8000 to 9000 depending on if its AP1 or AP2.. They have the Z on top end speed thats all
Hmmm... would gearing have something to do with it too? Or maybe the way the motor is designed. Read up stroke & bore in engines. Shorter stroke means higher rev range but no torque down low. Longer stroke = more torque.
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Originally Posted by ZR_Yancy
Hmmm... would gearing have something to do with it too? Or maybe the way the motor is designed. Read up stroke & bore in engines. Shorter stroke means higher rev range but no torque down low. Longer stroke = more torque.
Slow your roll ZR_Yancy... Your going to fry his pea of a brain with that "trash talk".

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half of the things i said were not directed to you ******** hints the hp thing.. i wasnt talking to you about that dipshit.. but i know what you mean both cars are not peaked out from factory i meant if you slap an exhaust on all that changes it noise nothing will be gained.. And the s2000 does have top end speed over the Z dumbass lol have you ever drove one or raced on lol haha probably not.. and yes the Z does tear the s2k up off the dig... im not calling anyone out im just stating a fact.. the s2k tops out at 176 the Z does not go that fast so please explain how the Z has top end speed over the s2k? lol
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Originally Posted by jasabeast
it doesnt matter about who has more hp lol..
So I can tune a stock civic with 110hp & make it faster than a stock Z with 306hp? Damn it! I'm trading in my Z.
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Originally Posted by _STEVEO_01
Slow your roll ZR_Yancy... Your going to fry his pea of a brain with that "trash talk".
lol trash talk why would i trash talk on a Z i own one... i just cant stand when ppl knock on cars with their stupid bias .02
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