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Old May 10, 2009 | 10:04 AM
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Really good explaination and made perfect sense.

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Old May 10, 2009 | 11:02 AM
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"mud-escape", lol...
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Old May 10, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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lol...Even he knows deep down inside that it'll break down if you use launch control. He should just admit the car isn't as "super" as it was supposed to be.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 04:45 PM
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lol...Even he knows deep down inside that it'll break down if you use launch control. He should just admit the car isn't as "super" as it was supposed to be.
Or maybe you should drive an automatic car and neutral-drop it many times. Should hold up well, right?

No matter how advanced technology is, when something is abused by someone over and over, sh*t will break.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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Muy interesante.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Spork
Or maybe you should drive an automatic car and neutral-drop it many times. Should hold up well, right?

No matter how advanced technology is, when something is abused by someone over and over, sh*t will break.
In other words, save it for the mud!!!
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Old May 10, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by HDPDZO6
In other words, save it for the mud!!!
Word up.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 06:05 PM
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Just because it's a GT-R, it doesn't mean it's bulletproof.
People swear that stuff isn't going to break after being abused...
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Old May 10, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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I just don't understand why they didn't originally create an electronic shutdown feature similar to porsche's LC! Obviously with a system like LC people are going to want to try it out quite a bit. A safety shutdown when the system starts to get 'hot'/over-used constantly in a short period of time should have been a requirement for such a car. Doesn't make much since that Nissan engineers overlooked this given the fact that they bought porsches to test out how their LC worked. Now for the 2010 model they lowered the launch rpm to only 3000rpms, while porsche launches @ 7000rpms!!!
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Old May 10, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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LOL! What a load of crap.

You'd expect a crippled version of launch control with the big warranty claims, but to give these silly excuses is insulting.

Anyhow, Nissan is not alone in limiting their launch control. BMW has long limited their U.S. version of launch control for their M cars. Ferrari does not even offer any form of launch control on the U.S. spec F430 due to liability concerns. For the European market however, BMW and Ferrari offer working versions of launch control.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Sensi09
LOL! What a load of crap.

You'd expect a crippled version of launch control with the big warranty claims, but to give these silly excuses is insulting.

Anyhow, Nissan is not alone in limiting their launch control. BMW has long limited their U.S. version of launch control for their M cars. Ferrari does not even offer any form of launch control on the U.S. spec F430 due to liability concerns. For the European market however, BMW and Ferrari offer working versions of launch control.
Is there a reason why they do not offer it here? I mean what are they that much smarter over in europe not to beat the crap out of their cars lol.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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I think it's just the lawsuit happy nature of the U.S. in general.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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Good find, Mizuno-san is the man.

I've seen a GT-R accelerate under full-throttle against a SRT-8 Challenger on the streets and can attest to the awesome acceleration of the GT-R.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Sensi09
LOL! What a load of crap.

You'd expect a crippled version of launch control with the big warranty claims, but to give these silly excuses is insulting.

Anyhow, Nissan is not alone in limiting their launch control. BMW has long limited their U.S. version of launch control for their M cars. Ferrari does not even offer any form of launch control on the U.S. spec F430 due to liability concerns. For the European market however, BMW and Ferrari offer working versions of launch control.
Nissan has already gotten a new "LC" program out. I'm not sure how widespread it is, but others have had it flashed on their ECU's. RPM's aren't as high and I think it kills the Hill Assist feature, but launch is not as violent and times are as fast as any published by the car mags prior to the GT-R release. This is done without having to disable the VDC.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by GZire
Nissan has already gotten a new "LC" program out. I'm not sure how widespread it is, but others have had it flashed on their ECU's. RPM's aren't as high and I think it kills the Hill Assist feature, but launch is not as violent and times are as fast as any published by the car mags prior to the GT-R release. This is done without having to disable the VDC.
Yes it's mentioned in the video....3000rpm with VDC enabled.
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Originally Posted by Jun
Just because it's a GT-R, it doesn't mean it's bulletproof.
People swear that stuff isn't going to break after being abused...
Z06s don't break.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Sensi09
LOL! What a load of crap.

You'd expect a crippled version of launch control with the big warranty claims, but to give these silly excuses is insulting.

Anyhow, Nissan is not alone in limiting their launch control. BMW has long limited their U.S. version of launch control for their M cars. Ferrari does not even offer any form of launch control on the U.S. spec F430 due to liability concerns. For the European market however, BMW and Ferrari offer working versions of launch control.
I mentioned that to a friend of mine a few months back that most high end cars in the European market have LC but the same car comes over here and its either altered or not even offered. Guess the Europeans now that us crazy americans will keep whoring out a feature until something breaks. Then want to try to have a lawsuit and say that its not our fault......
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Old May 11, 2009 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Sensi09
Yes it's mentioned in the video....3000rpm with VDC enabled.
Yea, I've seen it in action and its very smooth. A guy I know that lives in Baton Rouge had the new program loaded. He also has the cobb tuning accessport. He runs constant 11.0/11.1 times at the track.
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