Mustang driver states: "Z" needs NOS/Supercharger to run 13.8
Originally Posted by Gooey
well on DR's if I remember correctly I ran 13.1@106 with a 1.7 60'
On stock tires, eibach springs, Nismo exhaust fastest time I ran was a 13.2@105 with a 1.9 60's
I never posted these times because theres no need since its not a personal best. I ran couple of 13.2-13.3's on stock potenzas all day. I can dig up the old time slips. I have about 60+ time slips from last year alone.
Side note: I went to the track almost every friday's, few saturdays, few sundays. Only missed about 5-6 friday test & tunes the whole season.
On stock tires, eibach springs, Nismo exhaust fastest time I ran was a 13.2@105 with a 1.9 60's
I never posted these times because theres no need since its not a personal best. I ran couple of 13.2-13.3's on stock potenzas all day. I can dig up the old time slips. I have about 60+ time slips from last year alone.
Side note: I went to the track almost every friday's, few saturdays, few sundays. Only missed about 5-6 friday test & tunes the whole season.
yea but honestly I dont think itll effect it too much. I have a full Amuse kit goin on this week. Suppose to create a bit more downforce. I guess well see when the track opens this weekend 
Originally Posted by Gooey
well on DR's if I remember correctly I ran 13.1@106 with a 1.7 60'
On stock tires, eibach springs, Nismo exhaust fastest time I ran was a 13.2@105 with a 1.9 60's
I never posted these times because theres no need since its not a personal best. I ran couple of 13.2-13.3's on stock potenzas all day. I can dig up the old time slips. I have about 60+ time slips from last year alone.
Side note: I went to the track almost every friday's, few saturdays, few sundays. Only missed about 5-6 friday test & tunes the whole season.
On stock tires, eibach springs, Nismo exhaust fastest time I ran was a 13.2@105 with a 1.9 60's
I never posted these times because theres no need since its not a personal best. I ran couple of 13.2-13.3's on stock potenzas all day. I can dig up the old time slips. I have about 60+ time slips from last year alone.
Side note: I went to the track almost every friday's, few saturdays, few sundays. Only missed about 5-6 friday test & tunes the whole season.
Originally Posted by Gooey
You goin up to cecil county this friday?? Hope the weather is nice.
Whats that event there friday with street and grudge racing?
14.017 is called a bad driver dude. If a G35 Sedan can do 13.5 bone stock, then a NISMO Z can do better. Give me a break.
Originally Posted by 2007-Z
Dunno and don't care really. I just know what I've read thus far and what I see here:
cp79shark ----------------------07 Nsmo 6spd 14.017@_97.83mph 2.152 60ft
That's a lot slower than the other Hr's for that low of a 60'. Even with a 1.95 60' that would only have been a time of about 13.6. You could argue DA, but look at the trap speed even. Under 98 is slower than the DE even. I guess time will tell.
Alberto: I don't know who mentioned you to anyone, I didn't see it. I have only been reading and posting in two threads there about GT Mustangs. I never even looked at the thread where that one guy was calling out 350Z's with 500+ HP. That's probably where someone mentioned you though. Look it over and see.
cp79shark ----------------------07 Nsmo 6spd 14.017@_97.83mph 2.152 60ft
That's a lot slower than the other Hr's for that low of a 60'. Even with a 1.95 60' that would only have been a time of about 13.6. You could argue DA, but look at the trap speed even. Under 98 is slower than the DE even. I guess time will tell.
Alberto: I don't know who mentioned you to anyone, I didn't see it. I have only been reading and posting in two threads there about GT Mustangs. I never even looked at the thread where that one guy was calling out 350Z's with 500+ HP. That's probably where someone mentioned you though. Look it over and see.
Originally Posted by 2007-Z
I am aware of that, but the other run I've seen was still only a 13.7. Have you personally seen a Nismo run a low-mid 13 second run? If not then you are also making assumptions. I seriously doubt that someone who can pull off a 2.15 60' is going to "forget" how to drive after the launch, so don't even go there. Get a timeslip or this is nothing but speculation...
There are only a handful of NISMO owners out and no one has really taken theirs to the track yet to get many times. I actually plan too here soon.
So stop mouthing off saying that the NISMO is a slower car when in reality you have no idea. The fact remains it shouldn't be slower period.
Originally Posted by 2007-Z
Well, if you managed 1.9 60's on the stock tires then I'd say the suspension differences aren't enough to matter. But the drag is still there and has a great impact on the trap speed which in turn has a great impact on the run time. But as we already agree, we'll see once we get a good driver at a decent track.
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
If drag was such a big deal, I think my friend with a 07 Z and I playing on the highway should have pulled easily away from me. But instead we were dead even even over 100mph accelerating for the most part. I saw no difference.
Gooey, you are the king of assumption. Now you presume to know my thoughts too. Perhaps you can even give me the winning lotto numbers for next week?
Originally Posted by 2007-Z
Then get your Nismo to the track and prove me wrong... You sure do talk a great deal. If I had a Nismo I'd be happy to prove you wrong. Quit bench racing and show everyone what the Nismo can really do.
Gooey, you are the king of assumption. Now you presume to know my thoughts too. Perhaps you can even give me the winning lotto numbers for next week?
Gooey, you are the king of assumption. Now you presume to know my thoughts too. Perhaps you can even give me the winning lotto numbers for next week?
How about you quit running your mouth off like a 3 year old girl. I am sick of hearing you whine.
No one has to prove crap to you. You can't even back your info up.
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
How about you quit running your mouth off like a 3 year old girl. I am sick of hearing you whine.
No one has to prove crap to you. You can't even back your info up.
No one has to prove crap to you. You can't even back your info up.
If you don't like what you hear, then ignore me or gtfo. You haven't even spun a track time and you're in here trying to say what your car is capable of and there's not even another driver that has done it yet. Just like when the HR came out, everyone said, "It's a mid 13 second car at best". Now look where it's proven itself to be. Not everyone agrees with you.
I can back up my info more than you can.
1) Not a single track time (or trap speed) even close to a non-Nismo, but you say because of no good drivers... ok then.
2) More downforce = more drag which common sense dictates = more power needed to accelerate at the same rate at higher speeds due to increased drag the faster you go. At 75 mph if it's 55 pounds difference on the spoiler, then what is it at 100 mph? Also, don't forget about other downforce items, like diffusers... Those weren't even mentioned and a base/enthusiast/touring model doesn't have them. They come with Nismo and GT, unless you specifically order them.
So where's the proof from you to counter this? You can't disprove it without an actual timeslip and the physics are in my favor...
Originally Posted by Alberto
Nismo Z's are slower due to slightly more downforce that affects trap speed.
Oh I am suppose to go to a track that has been closed a lot due to the weather to run my car right? lol. I have ran many of my cars and have been here a crap load longer than you.
You are here trying to say by ONE single time by a poor driver the NISMO is slow when in fact you are wrong.
Not a single track time? And how many NISMOS do we actually have on this forum compared to the other 07 Zs? LOL.
I guess you're just another Red02GT but against your own family it seems. Sad. How about you GTFO. Seems all you do on this forum anyways is argue with people I have seen.
You are here trying to say by ONE single time by a poor driver the NISMO is slow when in fact you are wrong.
Not a single track time? And how many NISMOS do we actually have on this forum compared to the other 07 Zs? LOL.
I guess you're just another Red02GT but against your own family it seems. Sad. How about you GTFO. Seems all you do on this forum anyways is argue with people I have seen.
Originally Posted by 2007-Z
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=312917
If you don't like what you hear, then ignore me or gtfo. You haven't even spun a track time and you're in here trying to say what your car is capable of and there's not even another driver that has done it yet. Just like when the HR came out, everyone said, "It's a mid 13 second car at best". Now look where it's proven itself to be. Not everyone agrees with you.
I can back up my info more than you can.
1) Not a single track time (or trap speed) even close to a non-Nismo, but you say because of no good drivers... ok then.
2) More downforce = more drag which common sense dictates = more power needed to accelerate at the same rate at higher speeds due to increased drag the faster you go. At 75 mph if it's 55 pounds difference on the spoiler, then what is it at 100 mph? Also, don't forget about other downforce items, like diffusers... Those weren't even mentioned and a base/enthusiast/touring model doesn't have them. They come with Nismo and GT, unless you specifically order them.
So where's the proof from you to counter this? You can't disprove it without an actual timeslip and the physics are in my favor...
I guess this member also doesn't know what he's talking about?
If you don't like what you hear, then ignore me or gtfo. You haven't even spun a track time and you're in here trying to say what your car is capable of and there's not even another driver that has done it yet. Just like when the HR came out, everyone said, "It's a mid 13 second car at best". Now look where it's proven itself to be. Not everyone agrees with you.
I can back up my info more than you can.
1) Not a single track time (or trap speed) even close to a non-Nismo, but you say because of no good drivers... ok then.
2) More downforce = more drag which common sense dictates = more power needed to accelerate at the same rate at higher speeds due to increased drag the faster you go. At 75 mph if it's 55 pounds difference on the spoiler, then what is it at 100 mph? Also, don't forget about other downforce items, like diffusers... Those weren't even mentioned and a base/enthusiast/touring model doesn't have them. They come with Nismo and GT, unless you specifically order them.
So where's the proof from you to counter this? You can't disprove it without an actual timeslip and the physics are in my favor...
I guess this member also doesn't know what he's talking about?
Solo-arent tracks in TX open most of the year? Our tracks open within 2 weeks, and our winters are nasty compared to yours. Point here is you havent gotten any seat time in the Z, back up what you say. We arent saying Nismo Z's wont go 13's, but they wont be the fastest ones thats for sure. Now go prove us all wrong, or stop preaching to the guys that actually have raced their Z's...
Originally Posted by Alberto
Solo-arent tracks in TX open most of the year? Our tracks open within 2 weeks, and our winters are nasty compared to yours. Point here is you havent gotten any seat time in the Z, back up what you say. We arent saying Nismo Z's wont go 13's, but they wont be the fastest ones thats for sure. Now go prove us all wrong, or stop preaching to the guys that actually have raced their Z's...
The issue at hand is 2007 Z mouthing off saying they are 14 sec cars off one timeslip and saying they are slower when there is no reason for them to really be slower period. I expect them still to easily get at least a 13.5 around 103 mph.
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Oh I am suppose to go to a track that has been closed a lot due to the weather to run my car right? lol. I have ran many of my cars and have been here a crap load longer than you.
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
You are here trying to say by ONE single time by a poor driver the NISMO is slow when in fact you are wrong.
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Not a single track time? And how many NISMOS do we actually have on this forum compared to the other 07 Zs? LOL.
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
I guess you're just another Red02GT but against your own family it seems. Sad. How about you GTFO. Seems all you do on this forum anyways is argue with people I have seen.
Drag Co will not effect the car enough to worry about period. I believe one magazine got like a 13.6 out of the NISMO which was faster than the previous 07 Z they ran.
Yea I may have had it for months, but HAD no reason to take it to a drag strip to prove how fast it was in a straight line since I bought it for a Road Race car only. Plus I didn't want to take a chance on the clutch until it was fixed which I just got fixed 3 weeks ago.
Wow you really are immature. You officially made my block list. Actually the only person on it as of now. lol
Yea I may have had it for months, but HAD no reason to take it to a drag strip to prove how fast it was in a straight line since I bought it for a Road Race car only. Plus I didn't want to take a chance on the clutch until it was fixed which I just got fixed 3 weeks ago.
Wow you really are immature. You officially made my block list. Actually the only person on it as of now. lol
Originally Posted by 2007-Z
Good for you, then you should be well aware of the drag co-efficient being a seasoned drag racer, correct? I guess being on this site longer also means that you know more than me about the subject. Besides, you own Nismo #44. So doesn't that mean yours was one of the first cars off the production line and sold to the public? That means you've had it for months and the tracks weren't closed that long ago. Plus you're in Texas, not Michigan...
Learn to read. I gave you that one... I put my emphasis on #2.
I don't know, you tell me. You're the Nismo fan. Personally I don't like them, but I'm not going to get into that... I just know that YOU have one and YOU are bench racing it. If you've ran your other cars then you should be a good driver and I should be able to expect to put a lot of bank on your run, right? Go set the bar for the Nismo...
If my family is wrong and is attacking me, I'm going to defend myself. I could be less than civil and start the childish attacks like you have, but I've kept my head and done nothing but provided the best facts I can to back up my side of the argument. You're just pissed because you feel your car is equally fast as the rest, when in fact it's not physically possible without more power. You're a seasoned drag racer, do the math. Don't like it? Sell it.
Learn to read. I gave you that one... I put my emphasis on #2.
I don't know, you tell me. You're the Nismo fan. Personally I don't like them, but I'm not going to get into that... I just know that YOU have one and YOU are bench racing it. If you've ran your other cars then you should be a good driver and I should be able to expect to put a lot of bank on your run, right? Go set the bar for the Nismo...
If my family is wrong and is attacking me, I'm going to defend myself. I could be less than civil and start the childish attacks like you have, but I've kept my head and done nothing but provided the best facts I can to back up my side of the argument. You're just pissed because you feel your car is equally fast as the rest, when in fact it's not physically possible without more power. You're a seasoned drag racer, do the math. Don't like it? Sell it.
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Not if it's been raining most of the time. lol
The issue at hand is 2007 Z mouthing off saying they are 14 sec cars off one timeslip and saying they are slower when there is no reason for them to really be slower period. I expect them still to easily get at least a 13.5 around 103 mph.
The issue at hand is 2007 Z mouthing off saying they are 14 sec cars off one timeslip and saying they are slower when there is no reason for them to really be slower period. I expect them still to easily get at least a 13.5 around 103 mph.
Originally Posted by 2007-Z
Apparently my claims aren't too dumb. With the added downforce slowing down the top-end and the stiffer suspension impacting the launch I'd say the Nismo is going to be a few tenths slower on the same track, same DA, with equal drivers.
Everyone knows that suspension is critical to a good launch, right along with tires. Power is useless if it can't be properly transferred. But even if the suspension was equal, the drag is still going to eat it up. I'll bet $100 that a stock Nismo never breaks a 13.400.
Everyone knows that suspension is critical to a good launch, right along with tires. Power is useless if it can't be properly transferred. But even if the suspension was equal, the drag is still going to eat it up. I'll bet $100 that a stock Nismo never breaks a 13.400.
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Drag Co will not effect the car enough to worry about period. I believe one magazine got like a 13.6 out of the NISMO which was faster than the previous 07 Z they ran.
Yea I may have had it for months, but HAD no reason to take it to a drag strip to prove how fast it was in a straight line since I bought it for a Road Race car only. Plus I didn't want to take a chance on the clutch until it was fixed which I just got fixed 3 weeks ago.
Wow you really are immature. You officially made my block list. Actually the only person on it as of now. lol
Yea I may have had it for months, but HAD no reason to take it to a drag strip to prove how fast it was in a straight line since I bought it for a Road Race car only. Plus I didn't want to take a chance on the clutch until it was fixed which I just got fixed 3 weeks ago.
Wow you really are immature. You officially made my block list. Actually the only person on it as of now. lol