Mustang driver states: "Z" needs NOS/Supercharger to run 13.8
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Originally Posted by WSchli1672
Post #16 definitely had a little something to say, oh yeah, he's a 350Z owner.
And I do like how civil the thread is also.
And I do like how civil the thread is also.
yeah, i like how the only taker isn't stock and lives 1300+ miles away
*i'm being an a$$ over there, i'm ashamed of myself
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
after following your link, i see stock 13.3, that beats you so its obviously not the z everytime, making it a drivers race. we all have z's here, just get off the nuts and accept that a 4.6l v8 is equal to your 3.5. im not sure why you hate that idea so much really, doesnt sound bad to me.
PS: i like the thread, somehow a 2.0 60' is 13.6-13.7, but a 1.8 is 13.5??? the math doesnt follow.
PS: i like the thread, somehow a 2.0 60' is 13.6-13.7, but a 1.8 is 13.5??? the math doesnt follow.
2) I partially agree with you on the math, but the problem is that he's giving benefit to the Mustang up to 1.8-1.9 60'. Look at the time I posted for a stock s197, 13.959@103.37mph 2.142 60'. With what the guy posted it falls into this category: "2.1 in the 60 foot, you will be at 13.8 to 13.9 w/ 5speed and normal weather". The stock guy ran a 2.142 and still ran a 13.959 He should have been in the high 13.8's using this reference guide. So it gives benefit to the Mustang at those 60's which is probably why nobody argued with him about it. But I don't see anyone saying, "BS, so-and-so's GT ran a 13.2" or "We have a lot of GT's in the 13.3's". If you think it's so wrong, then subscribe to their forum and make a post about it and see what they say to you.
3) The guy knocks off .2 in the 1/4 as he goes down the list from there. If you know anything about drag racing you would know that a car in our power range is not going to drop by .2 for each and every .1 it takes off of it's 60'. It will only take off .2 when running 60's over 2.3 and in perfect track conditions. Otherwise it's only going to lose ~.15 for every .1 in the 60' until it gets down to about 1.9-2.0, then you're looking at closer to .1 per .1. So in reality the list should've looked more like this:
In the 60 ft, if you run a:
2.2 in the 60 foot, you will be at 13.9 to 14.2 w/ 5speed and normal weather
2.1 in the 60 foot, you will be at 13.8 to 14.0 w/ 5speed and normal weather
2.0 in the 60 foot, you will be at 13.6 to 13.8 w/ 5speed and normal weather
1.9 in the 60 foot, you will be at 13.5 to 13.7 w/ 5speed and normal weather
and if you manage a 1.8 or 60ft like some people have done, then you are running 13.4-13.5 (possible 13.3 in cold temps)
(I may have even been generous with this list myself)
4) There's only one reported instance of a Mustang running a 13.3xx, and I've yet to see a timeslip of it. Only HEARD of it through word of mouth. While we have 2 CONFIRMED Z's running better than that and the Z has only been out for 13 months, not 3-4 years and we have less track drivers.
5) Find me a stock GT Mustang here running a time comparable to our best stock Z's and post a link to their car information page so we can see that they claim to be stock.
6) You are the only person here disputing any of this and you're also a new member. You have provided absolutely no proof contrary to the proof that has been provided to you. Quit being a "troll" and a "bench racer" and provide some proof to back up your "opinion" or leave and go buy yourself a Mustang if you think they're so great. BTW, the Z shines in a way the Mustang could never dream of. It's a "sports car" not a dragster. But it still owns a V8 GT Mustang stock vs. stock in a drag race.
7) Read this.
and then show us what you can do by posting your timeslip here and quit bench racing. If you've never ran your Z then you have no f*cking clue what it can do.
Next time I'm just placing you on ignore and being done with it. I'm through with this debate until you can provide proof contrary to what I have provided. I don't hate the idea of a V8 running equal with my car or even beating it. But the proof shows otherwise and I hate people who argue against facts.
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
General rule of thumb with 60fts....
1 tenth off the 60ft equals 2 tenths off ET.
I've seen it time and time again.
1 tenth off the 60ft equals 2 tenths off ET.
I've seen it time and time again.
In any case, and I've already done this in my other post...
13.959@103.37mph 2.142 60' (That stock Mustang time)
2.142 - 1.800 = .342 (and that's being damn generous to give it a 1.800)
.342 / .2 = .684
13.959 - .684 = 13.275
Our two top times beat this and that's also with a 60' in the 1.9's, not a 1.8 flat. Personally I think .15 is more realistic here which would give it a time of 13.448. I'll admit that this time may have been run at a DA which is not the greatest since that information was not provided. But there has not even been a "rumor" of a stock GT running a 13.2, and only 1 rumor of a GT running a 13.3xx in cold temps (it may have even been a 13.399 since they didn't give more specific info). But I still haven't seen a timeslip of this car yet.
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Originally Posted by 2007-Z
17) Read this
1) i dont drive a 350z, im here for the vq35de info
2) i guarantee i am a better drag racer than you, my 4 or so trophies (in limited trips due to being away for school) would prove that
Originally Posted by 2007-Z
Next time I'm just placing you on ignore and being done with it.
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05+ GT with intakes/exhaust/tune vs...
my 07 Z with slipping clutch, shot slave, intakes/exhaust/gears (at the time).
I destroyed him off the line even pulling a worse 60 than he did, and spinning second. Then my car falls on it's face in 4th (thanks for the f'ed up clutch + slave Nissan), yet I still beat him to the finish line. Mustang dynoed ~300whp.
I just told him I had intakes and exhaust, didn't mention the gears. hehehehe
my 07 Z with slipping clutch, shot slave, intakes/exhaust/gears (at the time).
I destroyed him off the line even pulling a worse 60 than he did, and spinning second. Then my car falls on it's face in 4th (thanks for the f'ed up clutch + slave Nissan), yet I still beat him to the finish line. Mustang dynoed ~300whp.
I just told him I had intakes and exhaust, didn't mention the gears. hehehehe
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Originally Posted by Kam350z
On average, a mustang driver's IQ is approximately 1/2 that of a Z owner's.
That's fukin funny!
On a serious note, some of those guys should actually do research before formulating an opinion on a car they don't own/know about.
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Originally Posted by 350z_racer05
mustangs FTL, their overglorified "sports cars"
if you think about it, Z's hold their own against v8's
if you think about it, Z's hold their own against v8's
They are referred to as "Pony Cars", not a sports car. But the drivers tend to "think" they own a "Sports Car".
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
2) i guarantee i am a better drag racer than you, my 4 or so trophies (in limited trips due to being away for school) would prove that
Let's stay on subject, shall we?
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
this does not apply to me for 2 reasons:
1) i dont drive a 350z, im here for the vq35de info
1) i dont drive a 350z, im here for the vq35de info
Originally Posted by Hoooper
2) i guarantee i am a better drag racer than you, my 4 or so trophies (in limited trips due to being away for school) would prove that
Why not post some timeslips of the runs in whatever it is that you do drive? Unless you're full of crap and talking smack again... I'm guessing that you're nothing more than a bench racer. You probably have 4 trophies in that. Either that, or maybe in those junior dragsters that run like 16 second 1/8 miles, lol. "my 4 or so trophies"... Is it 4 or isn't it? That statement right there tells me you're lying. The boy doesn't even know if he has 4 trophies or not...
Still no proof of anything. Could that be because you're WRONG?! Thanks for the laugh. I'm done talking with you, you've lost all respect from me.
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Originally Posted by 2007-Z
You have no clue how much experience I have little boy. I'm 31 and been out of school for quite some time. I can assure you that I've had more time available to me to log time at the track than you have. You are bench racing again too by saying you can beat me. Bring it to the track or stfu.
Why not post some timeslips of the runs in whatever it is that you do drive? Unless you're full of crap and talking smack again... I'm guessing that you're nothing more than a bench racer. You probably have 4 trophies in that. Either that, or maybe in those junior dragsters that run like 16 second 1/8 miles, lol. "my 4 or so trophies"... Is it 4 or isn't it? That statement right there tells me you're lying. The boy doesn't even know if he has 4 trophies or not...
Still no proof of anything. Could that be because you're WRONG?! Thanks for the laugh. I'm done talking with you, you've lost all respect from me.
Why not post some timeslips of the runs in whatever it is that you do drive? Unless you're full of crap and talking smack again... I'm guessing that you're nothing more than a bench racer. You probably have 4 trophies in that. Either that, or maybe in those junior dragsters that run like 16 second 1/8 miles, lol. "my 4 or so trophies"... Is it 4 or isn't it? That statement right there tells me you're lying. The boy doesn't even know if he has 4 trophies or not...
Still no proof of anything. Could that be because you're WRONG?! Thanks for the laugh. I'm done talking with you, you've lost all respect from me.
its a 2002 maxima 6spd. good enough? ive had 100+ passes since I started when stock. having time available to log at the track means nothing, its the time that you actually log at the track that counts. *prepare for bench racing* its very likely that i would outrace you in your own car
im pretty sure i had no respect from you in the first place, so im not really worried about it. sounds like a lie to me...that whole respect bologna. wheres your proof?
EDIT: done with this dumb thread, its been decided that its a drivers race and MR.2007-z would most likely lose if it were him
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
not sure how me not being at home and therefore not being able to look and count makes me a liar . i REALLY REALLY would like you to put me on ignore, ive yet to see you post anything useful as well. the most useful thing youve done is point to a thread that has an argument about stock times...nice.
its a 2002 maxima 6spd. good enough? ive had 100+ passes since I started when stock. having time available to log at the track means nothing, its the time that you actually log at the track that counts. *prepare for bench racing* its very likely that i would outrace you in your own car
im pretty sure i had no respect from you in the first place, so im not really worried about it. sounds like a lie to me...that whole respect bologna. wheres your proof?
EDIT: done with this dumb thread, its been decided that its a drivers race and MR.2007-z would most likely lose if it were him
its a 2002 maxima 6spd. good enough? ive had 100+ passes since I started when stock. having time available to log at the track means nothing, its the time that you actually log at the track that counts. *prepare for bench racing* its very likely that i would outrace you in your own car
im pretty sure i had no respect from you in the first place, so im not really worried about it. sounds like a lie to me...that whole respect bologna. wheres your proof?
EDIT: done with this dumb thread, its been decided that its a drivers race and MR.2007-z would most likely lose if it were him
and I have a sneaking suspicion that the RWD 350z can easily beat your 02 FWD Maxima, having owned an 02' Max in the past and currently owning an 04 350z...
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Originally Posted by scotts300
and I have a sneaking suspicion that the RWD 350z can easily beat your 02 FWD Maxima, having owned an 02' Max in the past and currently owning an 04 350z...
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Mustangs are like a$$holes, everyone has one...
And it seems mustang drivers think they're rides the ****... until the roll in a Z. My buddy has a mustang and thought it could take my Z, so I gave him a ride in the Z and he said nvm, I don't want to ride.. LOL
We did anyway one night... Figure out the rest on your own from my statement above.
And it seems mustang drivers think they're rides the ****... until the roll in a Z. My buddy has a mustang and thought it could take my Z, so I gave him a ride in the Z and he said nvm, I don't want to ride.. LOL
We did anyway one night... Figure out the rest on your own from my statement above.