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Old 02-25-2009, 04:26 PM
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Hi Guys,

The courier just arrived with my Pioneer AVH-P6050DVD HU. On the weekend I plan on getting the below components and one of the 2 subs. Now I'm good with auto electrical work and have installed a couple of sound systems but I'm no good with specs for pairing of different components so they all work well together. I looked at the focal and pioneer / amps but as far as I can tell the 4 channel units listed have enough power to run the components but not the sub (remaining 2 channels bridged). Can someone recommend a good amp that will power the 6.5"s and either the 10" or 13" sub or will I need to get 2 amps? Any help would be great!

Components
Focal 100VRS $479 (AUS)
4" slim-fit component speaker set
Maximum power 80W
Nominal power 40W
Sensitivity (2.83 V/1m) 91dB
Frequency response (+/-3dB) 90Hz - 28kHz
Nom. impedance 4 ohms
Tweeter TNB inverted dome
Mounting depth 39.5mm

Sub 1
Focal 27V2 $469 (AUS)
10" subwoofer
Load Sealed
Load Volume 15 - 30 litres
Nominal power 300 W
Maximum power 600 W
Sensitivity (2.83 V/1m) 88 dB
Frequency response (+/-3dB) 35Hz - 500Hz
Nom. impedance 2 x 4 ohms
Magnet Double ferrite (156mm)
Voice coil Double 65 mm

Sub 2
Focal 33V2 $569 (AUS)
13" subwoofer
Load Sealed
Load Volume 25 - 50 litres
Nominal power 400 W
Maximum power 800 W
Sensitivity (2.83 V/1m) 90 dB
Frequency response (+/-3dB) 30Hz - 500Hz
Nom. impedance 2 x 4 ohms
Magnet Double ferrite (156mm)
Voice coil Double 65 mm

Thanks Guys,

JW
Old 02-25-2009, 07:15 PM
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Alpine PDX 5 can handle that... it's 2 x 150 watts and 300x1 in bridged mode. I have PDX 4.150 and PDX 1.600 that I didn't install yet but I haven't heard anything but good things about Alpine PDX amps... they are also so small and sexy!!!
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"4" slim-fit component speaker set"


no go... get some 6.5 comps to fill the holes
Old 02-26-2009, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by adamtaylorpcb
"4" slim-fit component speaker set"


no go... get some 6.5 comps to fill the holes
Yeah I actually meant to paste 165 VRS which are the 6.5 comps. I copied the wrong stats. The correct ones are below. I've also decided to skip on the focal subs and go with an IDQ10 D2. It seems to be getting great reviews on here and being dual coil 2 ohm I'll be able to hook it up with a 4 ohm draw. Whereas the focals are dual coil 4 ohm which would only be able to run 2 or 8 ohm draw.

So the plan is:
Focal 165 VRS 6.5" comps
Image Dyn IDQ10 D2 10" sub
Alpine PDX 5 amp


Anyone see any dramas with this setup?


Correct Component Specs
Focal 165VRS $549 (AUS)
6.5" slim-fit component speaker set
Maximum power 120W
Nominal power 60W
Sensitivity (2.83 V/1m) 93dB
Frequency response (+/-3dB) 70Hz - 28kHz
Nom. impedance 4 ohms
Tweeter TNB inverted dome
Mounting depth 56mm

Thanks for the help so far guys.
Old 02-26-2009, 04:06 PM
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^^ I don’t see any issues/problems with the setup you describe.

So you understand how I base my comments… I currently have these components in my car:
  • Focal 165 V Slim component speakers in the doors (tweeters mounted in the A-Pillars)
  • Infinity coaxial speakers in the rear speaker space
  • Eclipse 4 Channel Amp Model EA3422
The Eclipse amp is just a moderately-priced/mid-level amp, but it does a great job driving the Focals which deliver great sound (Focals are my favorite, but that doesn’t mean everyone would agree or want these).

The rear coaxials were mounted just to eliminate the horrible stock Clarion rears, and I have them turned way down (only to provide a little background music while my gps broadcasts voice guidance on the fronts).

The plan is losing the rears and adding a SubW (if I can ever figure out where to mount the SubW and not sacrifice cargo space I need for my golfing addiction).

--Spike
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Memphis makes really solid amps as well, reasonably priced and clean power and sound.
Old 03-01-2009, 01:53 PM
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Back again. Well there's only one place in town that sells IDQ10 subs and I was speaking to him about running it off the 300w channel of the PDX 5. He thinks the system would be better run off the PDX4.150 which is 4 x 150w with channels 3-4 bridged to the IDQ10. The only problem is that he hasn't got any of the 2 ohm 10"s only the 4 ohm. Since they are dual voice coil I can only run it at 2 ohm or 8 ohm. He recommended running it at 8 ohm but I thought that would cut the bridged 300w to 150w severely underpowering the sub? What is the problem with running the PDX4.150 with 2 channels bridged to 2 ohm?
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Most amps bridged can only do 4ohm+ when combined. I believe that the PDX4.150 is no different... Buy the 2ohm version online if you must/can or ask him to order one,
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Thanks redline. I just spoke to him and he's going to get in a 2 ohm IDQ10 for me. Should have all the gear by next Saturday
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Its an amazing sub, and 300watts is good amount of power for this sub.. Wont be insanely loud, but will sound good.
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