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Old 06-28-2010, 04:45 PM
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im about to install a radio i was wondering if soldering the wires together would be best for if i were to use connector clamps.
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Solder all the way. Mechanical fasteners have a habit of corroding that ultimately results if bad connections.
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thanks you. u can delete this thread now super mod
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^^ Delete this thread you say? Not so fast since it deserves additional comments.

When I install wiring, I solder the wires and cover joints with shrink-wrap if I do not need to change things and want a “permanent” installation.

I often swap components for testing. In this case I use blade connectors that have shrouding. That connection never fails. I do solder the wire connecting to the shrouded blade connector.

I never” crimp” when connecting wires. As Dave mentions, that type of connection will eventually fail.

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I also solder just about everything I do.
At our shop we do mostly open flame soldering unless its in a tight spot. These soldered connections tend to hold on forever!
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Solder for sure but use heat shrink wrap because electrical tape in heat can get very gooey and slide off and could leave bare wire exposed
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Oops, forgot to mention the importance of heat shrink tubing.
Old 06-29-2010, 12:36 PM
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Use a high quality tape (I only use Scotch 33+). Sure, it hurts to pay $5 a roll when you can buy the cheap stuff for $0.99 but a high quality tape will not leave residue, won't shrink, won't slide, won't do anything but stay where you put it for as long as you own the car.

My issue with heat shrink is that you have to cut the wire in order to put it on. If you are doing a radio harness that isn't a big deal, if you are doing an alarm or other in car job that isn't always the best way to go. A high quality tape will outlast the car and is quicker and easier to apply.
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That"s the only tape I use is the 33+ when doing alarms, but I will zip tie each wire together so there is no tension also. It is by far the best electrical tape out there, but even that tape in the heat of summer can get very gooey.
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I agree with Kevin’s comments:
Originally Posted by KPierson
Use a high quality tape (I only use Scotch 33+). Sure, it hurts to pay $5 a roll when you can buy the cheap stuff for $0.99 but a high quality tape will not leave residue, won't shrink, won't slide, won't do anything but stay where you put it for as long as you own the car. […]
I prefer using shrink wrap when it’s easy to install (e.g., connecting two wires end-to-end when both are easily accessible), but there are cases where tape is more practical (e.g., a “T connections” joining an end of one wire into the middle of another wire, access problems when wiring without doing a completer disassembly, etc.).

revho’s comment is also correct:
Originally Posted by revho
That"s the only tape I use is the 33+ when doing alarms, but I will zip tie each wire together so there is no tension also. It is by far the best electrical tape out there, but even that tape in the heat of summer can get very gooey.
The tape’s adhesive does become “gooey” when the car is in hot climates, but my experience is that it sort of just welds together and does not become slippery (something that Kevin mentions in his Msg. #8 above).

Something no one mentions is the importance of leaving plenty of slack in your wires when soldering connections. It’s a pain when doing disassembly/reassembly of A/V components when there is inadequate wire-length and using “permanent connections.” You do not want to be stretching and pulling on your soldered wires. If for some reason you cannot leave extra length, use a shrouded (insulated) spade connector when connecting single wires or build a custom harness for multiple wires coming to a common point.

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Ya it's a radio I used heat shrink
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^^ OK... But did you solder or use "crimps/clamps." I believe that was your original question.

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