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Originally Posted by vince1611
What he said. If a true coilover had the same spring rates as one in the OEM position, the true coilover would be significantly more stiff (I think Gsedan35 has the exact conversion). This may or may not make a difference for you depending on your situation. I've also read complaints about the valving and dampening from other cars with similar setups, but this could be different for the 350z. And to state the obvious, the bushings get worn out and the rear starts to make noises.
as for the rear bushing issue, i only recall maybe 1-2 people with that problem. a friend coilovers, that have at least 20k miles by now, bushings are in tact. no cracks, nothing.
Originally Posted by z1 performance
I've been in 1 car that had them. The 'advantage' these have is you can slam the car on the ground, if you so desire. The downside was that when compared to other street friendly coilovers, they were not particularly well valved for rougher roads...but, it's all subjective I suppose
#25
I have the stance and i think they are amazing. They handle the track great even on R compounds. On the street i find them easy to drive. Just dont rail any bumps. they are fine. I could drive 4 hours a day on them.
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Originally Posted by DJames
I plan to track the car 1-10 a year, but the min would probably be 5 times a year. As in budget wise, best bang for your bucks. I've been reading a lot about the Stance Coilovers, seems like everyone loves them.
Personally, I have SilkRoad RMA8. I went with them because Ken Maeda asked me to try them. So he picked up a set for me when he came back from Japan. They ride well, feels pretty stock on the street, very planted on the track. Sliding around with makes the car feel very predictable and easy to control with a good set of tires. Though the car's stock VLSD SUCKS! and does more harm than good. Converting the rear coilover is no problem. All I have to do is make a call to Maeda and he'll take care of everything. We have no circuit track now (it's been closed sine last year) so I have no desire of changing them out.
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Originally Posted by daytona350z
well thats true for only cheap brand coilovers that conver the rear to true coilover. companies such as zeal take the time and research to valve the shock to the corresonding rates. i can tell you that running on zeals 16/14kg setup feels better than teins 12/12 flex and jic's flt-a2 coilovers.
as for the rear bushing issue, i only recall maybe 1-2 people with that problem. a friend coilovers, that have at least 20k miles by now, bushings are in tact. no cracks, nothing.
tell you what, if you ever make it down to so cal, give me a heads up. i know you are very well educated/experienced in the suspension systems out for the 350z, and i'd like to have you ride in my car equipped with zeals with 16/14kg rates i'd like to swipe that bad impression you have about rear ture coilovers
as for the rear bushing issue, i only recall maybe 1-2 people with that problem. a friend coilovers, that have at least 20k miles by now, bushings are in tact. no cracks, nothing.
tell you what, if you ever make it down to so cal, give me a heads up. i know you are very well educated/experienced in the suspension systems out for the 350z, and i'd like to have you ride in my car equipped with zeals with 16/14kg rates i'd like to swipe that bad impression you have about rear ture coilovers
Their is more to the issue then the lower shock mount bushing, things that have nothing to do with the product makup that any manufactuer put's out the door, no matter how powerfull their valving science or R&D department is.
https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-suspension/241891-new-stance-3-way-coilovers-3.html post #44
The noise issue is a lot more common of a problem they you know. Though owner's getting used to the noise isn't helping us hear about it now, when it first came to light it was discused by several owners.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ghlight=stance
https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-suspension/211475-the-real-problem-with-true-coilover-rear-suspension.html
#29
Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
not a fan personally of any "true" rear coilover, but everyone has their own opinions on this
there are some pretty comprehensive threads out there with reviews of just about every coilover out there - takes awhile to search, but you'll get a ton of good info
there are some pretty comprehensive threads out there with reviews of just about every coilover out there - takes awhile to search, but you'll get a ton of good info
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Originally Posted by vince1611
wow! You actually have the RMA8s??? I can't find much info. about these on the forums. If I'm not digressing too much, I'd really like to hear more about them. Are you using the original 10f/8r spring rates? How's the dampening over rough roads? Is there a big difference between the damper's softest settings vs. most stiff?
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Originally Posted by 636Racer
Yah..I have the original production ones. There's another member on here that runs them too, but, his rear spring uses a progressive version. On the streets, they're pretty tame. There is noticable difference between the two full settings, that's why I leave it right in the middle. Sometimes I bump up the damping up front, mostly it's at med.
#35
Originally Posted by Gsedan35
"companies like Zeal". Who makes a true coilover system that could possibly be in the same realm as them? Though I understand your speaking up for yourself vs Adams comment against running true coilovers. Kind of ironic that the two other coilover products you cite are known for owner comment's about harshness, Flex and Flta-2. Though, if anyone can pull things off it would be the likes of Zeal, Ohlins, Moton ect. That does not mean that the sky is the limit as far as rates go, it would be ill advised for someone to strike out and go that that much spring without having first sampled lower rate setup's first, like I think your saying you have. If I avoid certain road's, I may be able to get away with 14Kg, othewise 12Kg is my preceived limit, which I am comsidering testing.
Their is more to the issue then the lower shock mount bushing, things that have nothing to do with the product makup that any manufactuer put's out the door, no matter how powerfull their valving science or R&D department is.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=241891&page=3 post #44
The noise issue is a lot more common of a problem they you know. Though owner's getting used to the noise isn't helping us hear about it now, when it first came to light it was discused by several owners.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ghlight=stance
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=211475
Their is more to the issue then the lower shock mount bushing, things that have nothing to do with the product makup that any manufactuer put's out the door, no matter how powerfull their valving science or R&D department is.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=241891&page=3 post #44
The noise issue is a lot more common of a problem they you know. Though owner's getting used to the noise isn't helping us hear about it now, when it first came to light it was discused by several owners.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ghlight=stance
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=211475
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Originally Posted by DMK
More info please. Where did you get them? Price? How are they holding up?
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