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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 09:36 AM
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Default Project Mu Brake Shoes w/ Stoptech BBK?

Will project mu brake shoes work with my stoptech 14" BBK ST45/ST40 setup? Or does Stoptech use a different brake drum size than factory?
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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Are you talking about the parking brake?
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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Yes, the parking brake. Do the stoptech 14" rear rotor/drums have a different brake shoe size? Can I get the Project Mu pads intended for the OEM z, and install them on the Stoptech setup?

...I'm trying to get the rear to lock up more predictably, it's do-able, but isn't nearly as responsive as my Mercedes 190e's parking brake (Not just because the 190e has small tires either... runnning 255 on the rear of the 190e & 275 on the rear of the Z).

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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 02:53 PM
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if your stock shoes fit with stoptechs and the pmu shoes are stock replacements.....

fwiw why not get carbotech to make you some shoes? carbotech>pmu
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 03:49 PM
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if your stock shoes fit with stoptechs and the pmu shoes are stock replacements.....

fwiw why not get carbotech to make you some shoes? carbotech>pmu
That's what I was asking I guess, a shop installed my stoptech BBK, and sold my Brembo's for me simultaneously... so I don't know if the OEM shoes are the same at all.

I actually haven't read about carbotech, I'll look into them though for sure.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 07:12 AM
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Be careful regularly using the e-brake to lock up the wheels while moving. Your hats are made out of aluminum and are not as durable as the iron parts they replace. I would not recommend installing more aggressive brake shoes to engage lock-up with our kit...you'd really be better off with the stock rear brakes or having custom iron hats made if that is something you plan to continue doing regularly.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by StopTechErik
Be careful regularly using the e-brake to lock up the wheels while moving. Your hats are made out of aluminum and are not as durable as the iron parts they replace. I would not recommend installing more aggressive brake shoes to engage lock-up with our kit...you'd really be better off with the stock rear brakes or having custom iron hats made if that is something you plan to continue doing regularly.
Interesting, I didn't even consider that. How much would custom iron hats cost? How much more would they weigh, out of curiousity as well?

Also, for the initial question, since I'm assuming the aluminum hats use different shoes than factory, does stoptech make more aggressive shoes as well, or what are the size specs to have them made by carbotech?
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 12:30 PM
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Why are you wanting to e-brake lock up the rear?? Drifting......?

have you considered a rear hydro e-brake then?? see my post 31 and 34 on this thread:

https://my350z.com/forum/6584206-post31.html
https://my350z.com/forum/6587128-post34.html

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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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Why are you wanting to e-brake lock up the rear?? Drifting......?

have you considered a rear hydro e-brake then?? see my post 31 and 34 on this thread:

https://my350z.com/forum/6584206-post31.html
https://my350z.com/forum/6587128-post34.html

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Yes, I looked over it... initially I thought just getting more aggressive brake shoes would be easier than installing more stuff. I didn't consider that the hats are aluminum and less durable.

With your setup though, when you pull the hand brake doesn't it still actuate the brake shoes in addition to the calipers (which as stated by StopTechErik, is bad for my aluminum hats)? I'd have to disconnect the normal parking brake cable then wouldn't I, and in that case how would the hydro e-brake hold up for parking... if I say left the car in neutral?

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Originally Posted by mcarther101
Yes, I looked over it... initially I thought just getting more aggressive brake shoes would be easier than installing more stuff. I didn't consider that the hats are aluminum and less durable.

With your setup though, when you pull the hand brake doesn't it still actuate the brake shoes in addition to the calipers (which as stated by StopTechErik, is bad for my aluminum hats)? I'd have to disconnect the normal parking brake cable then wouldn't I, and in that case how would the hydro e-brake hold up for parking... if I say left the car in neutral?
no man, hydro ebrake means it activates the rear pads only......the ebrake wouldnt be activated at all as the ebrakes dont have any hydraulics at all......it just uses cable pull via the ebrake parking handle at the oem location.

you can use your parking break as normal when parking.

look back over my set up again.

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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 08:42 AM
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I cant comment on any kit of custom parts costs or weight as it is not a service we can offer. You would probably need to contact a local machine shop for assistance with that type of custom work.

We offer replacement e-brake and drum shoes through our parent company Centric Parts, but they are standard OEM replacement with no attempted increase in bite or friction.
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by StopTechErik
I cant comment on any kit of custom parts costs or weight as it is not a service we can offer. You would probably need to contact a local machine shop for assistance with that type of custom work.

We offer replacement e-brake and drum shoes through our parent company Centric Parts, but they are standard OEM replacement with no attempted increase in bite or friction.
Can you provide the rear Stoptech ST45 14" rotor hats design template/specs/thing so I could find out if, and how much a CNC shop could make them for me in steel or something more durable than aluminum?
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