post research rotor and pad replacement questions
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post research rotor and pad replacement questions
I h ave a 2005 anniversary edition with stock Brembos and 18" wheels just hit 40k and the rear brakes started grinding i need new all around
I've read a lot here and spoken with people at Rock Auto and ConceptZ. I was ready to buy slotted Centric slotted rotors, but Rock Auto no longer had them. I was ready to buy StpTech Street Performance pads for low noise and just with great performance per the review in this section.
More research done and some PM help received.
Conceptz will match rock auto's prices on the brake pads. Rotors for my 2005 with Brembos are $195 & $185 and that's plain, drilled, slotted or drilled AND slotted.
The guy at ConceptZ told me to choose the rotors based on looks as they'll all perform the same and last the same. Is this true? I guess I like the look of drilled and slotted. Looks cool. Any advice?
I read here that the Stop Tech Street Performance pads were lower dust and ConceptZ's web site says that. But the guy on the phone said they're very dusty and noisy and that Hawk HPS would be quiet and less dust, though not good on the track. Any thoughts on this? Seems to contradict what I've read here.
Thanks
I've read a lot here and spoken with people at Rock Auto and ConceptZ. I was ready to buy slotted Centric slotted rotors, but Rock Auto no longer had them. I was ready to buy StpTech Street Performance pads for low noise and just with great performance per the review in this section.
More research done and some PM help received.
Conceptz will match rock auto's prices on the brake pads. Rotors for my 2005 with Brembos are $195 & $185 and that's plain, drilled, slotted or drilled AND slotted.
The guy at ConceptZ told me to choose the rotors based on looks as they'll all perform the same and last the same. Is this true? I guess I like the look of drilled and slotted. Looks cool. Any advice?
I read here that the Stop Tech Street Performance pads were lower dust and ConceptZ's web site says that. But the guy on the phone said they're very dusty and noisy and that Hawk HPS would be quiet and less dust, though not good on the track. Any thoughts on this? Seems to contradict what I've read here.
Thanks
#3
Firs,t you ahve to give us your definition of track. An HPDE? Or classed racing? If classed, which tires are you running? How experienced are you as a driver?
Pads that truly do well during competition and can be streetable can be obtained, but they come at a price. Pads that truly can be used on both and perform admirably (modest dust levels and low noise) get expensive. You've either got to pick a side (street or track), or be prepared for pads in the $400 + range for front/rear
hawk hps are not trackable pads on a 350Z unless you've got horrible tires that don't offer much by way of grip. With any decent tire, you're going to kill those pads
rotor wise, they don't all work the same - the solid, non drilled/non slotted disk will overall give you the most life. It won't cool quite as well as the other 2, but that all comes back to pad selection - a Stoptech street performance pad or a Hawk HPS are plain ordinary street pads so won't be affected by either disk type. You have to be careful with Centric rotors, as there are different types. Their lowest grade, econo rotors are nice as OE type replacements when coupled with a mild pad. They go for $102 a pair front and $101 a pair rear for brembo cars. The premium rotors are better overall quality and will deal well with a wider variety of pads. These go for $134 a pair front and $118 a pair rear for Brembo cars. Some guys pass the cheaper ones off as the more expensive versions.
In short, you've gotta define your true uses for the brakes/car and your budget, to hone in on the best overall setup
Pads that truly do well during competition and can be streetable can be obtained, but they come at a price. Pads that truly can be used on both and perform admirably (modest dust levels and low noise) get expensive. You've either got to pick a side (street or track), or be prepared for pads in the $400 + range for front/rear
hawk hps are not trackable pads on a 350Z unless you've got horrible tires that don't offer much by way of grip. With any decent tire, you're going to kill those pads
rotor wise, they don't all work the same - the solid, non drilled/non slotted disk will overall give you the most life. It won't cool quite as well as the other 2, but that all comes back to pad selection - a Stoptech street performance pad or a Hawk HPS are plain ordinary street pads so won't be affected by either disk type. You have to be careful with Centric rotors, as there are different types. Their lowest grade, econo rotors are nice as OE type replacements when coupled with a mild pad. They go for $102 a pair front and $101 a pair rear for brembo cars. The premium rotors are better overall quality and will deal well with a wider variety of pads. These go for $134 a pair front and $118 a pair rear for Brembo cars. Some guys pass the cheaper ones off as the more expensive versions.
In short, you've gotta define your true uses for the brakes/car and your budget, to hone in on the best overall setup
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I wasn't clear. This car is a daily driver. I'll be lucky to get it on a track once or twice a year as part of a club event.
The rotors I was looking at were from ConceptZ and were $185 a set in any form.
I've done searching here and that's how I came up with the Stoptech pads. I'll try searching more, but if there's a long lasting pad that will be good for daily driving and recreational track use once or twice a year that's low on dust and noise please let me know in case I can't find the right thread.
The rotors I was looking at were from ConceptZ and were $185 a set in any form.
I've done searching here and that's how I came up with the Stoptech pads. I'll try searching more, but if there's a long lasting pad that will be good for daily driving and recreational track use once or twice a year that's low on dust and noise please let me know in case I can't find the right thread.
#5
They exist - Endless and Project Mu, Ferodo as well as Carbotech have some offerings. The Stoptech pads work fine for the street, but they are not a track pad by any means unless you're talking a club event on normal street tires and nothing competitive - depending on your driving style, they might work decently enough. Also will depend on the type of track and the length of the sessions.
#6
If you have something to add, please do. If you simply want to tell others to search, why bother posting?
#7
That's EXACTLY what I'm talking about and that's why came to that conclusion after doing the reading that DavidV accused me of not doing. The sales guy from ConceptZ made me hesitate when he described them as noisy and told me that they produce a lot of brake dust; the opposite of what a lot of people have posted here.
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The Stoptech pads are not noisy IMHO though dust levels are moderate for a street pad. I find the HPS to dust less. The Hawk ceramic may be a better choose if dust and noise are primarily important. Otherwise feel free to check our Endless thread (they army cheap but are awesome pads), or our site for the Project Mu NS (street)
I also really like Ferodo DS2500 for a club type pad. Very very good initial bit, not hard on rotors, dust levels are on par with the std pads. But as a dual dury pad for light track use even with tires approaching r comps they work great.
I also really like Ferodo DS2500 for a club type pad. Very very good initial bit, not hard on rotors, dust levels are on par with the std pads. But as a dual dury pad for light track use even with tires approaching r comps they work great.
Last edited by Z1 Performance; 07-29-2011 at 08:35 PM.
#9
Here's the drilled and slotted centrics I was looking at (and coated with Zinc as well):
http://www.conceptzperformance.com/C...275.118.135.25
Are you suggesting StopTechs such as these over the Centrics above?
http://z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?model...ng&prodid=1945
http://www.conceptzperformance.com/C...275.118.135.25
Are you suggesting StopTechs such as these over the Centrics above?
http://z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?model...ng&prodid=1945
Last edited by davide; 07-29-2011 at 07:29 PM.
#11
Ok, so they're good. Are the slotted only ones you sell better? The same quality just different?
I can tell you that I'm confused now than when I started....
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Where can I get the premium Centrics for that price?
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Firs,t you ahve to give us your definition of track. An HPDE? Or classed racing? If classed, which tires are you running? How experienced are you as a driver?
Pads that truly do well during competition and can be streetable can be obtained, but they come at a price. Pads that truly can be used on both and perform admirably (modest dust levels and low noise) get expensive. You've either got to pick a side (street or track), or be prepared for pads in the $400 + range for front/rear
hawk hps are not trackable pads on a 350Z unless you've got horrible tires that don't offer much by way of grip. With any decent tire, you're going to kill those pads
rotor wise, they don't all work the same - the solid, non drilled/non slotted disk will overall give you the most life. It won't cool quite as well as the other 2, but that all comes back to pad selection - a Stoptech street performance pad or a Hawk HPS are plain ordinary street pads so won't be affected by either disk type. You have to be careful with Centric rotors, as there are different types. Their lowest grade, econo rotors are nice as OE type replacements when coupled with a mild pad. They go for $102 a pair front and $101 a pair rear for brembo cars. The premium rotors are better overall quality and will deal well with a wider variety of pads. These go for $134 a pair front and $118 a pair rear for Brembo cars. Some guys pass the cheaper ones off as the more expensive versions.
In short, you've gotta define your true uses for the brakes/car and your budget, to hone in on the best overall setup
Pads that truly do well during competition and can be streetable can be obtained, but they come at a price. Pads that truly can be used on both and perform admirably (modest dust levels and low noise) get expensive. You've either got to pick a side (street or track), or be prepared for pads in the $400 + range for front/rear
hawk hps are not trackable pads on a 350Z unless you've got horrible tires that don't offer much by way of grip. With any decent tire, you're going to kill those pads
rotor wise, they don't all work the same - the solid, non drilled/non slotted disk will overall give you the most life. It won't cool quite as well as the other 2, but that all comes back to pad selection - a Stoptech street performance pad or a Hawk HPS are plain ordinary street pads so won't be affected by either disk type. You have to be careful with Centric rotors, as there are different types. Their lowest grade, econo rotors are nice as OE type replacements when coupled with a mild pad. They go for $102 a pair front and $101 a pair rear for brembo cars. The premium rotors are better overall quality and will deal well with a wider variety of pads. These go for $134 a pair front and $118 a pair rear for Brembo cars. Some guys pass the cheaper ones off as the more expensive versions.
In short, you've gotta define your true uses for the brakes/car and your budget, to hone in on the best overall setup
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