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Old 01-18-2012, 01:16 PM
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I did my DD..and searched. I just want current opinions for these two braces:

Front Lower tie brace:



Rear Lower Lateral Brace (NOT TIE BRACE which is also available)

I have Invidia DUAL so this should fit.




Also, will an alignment be required after install?.

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I have camber arms and mid-links, still on stock 95k mile bushings, feels very solid, do not feel any need for more bracing.

So many more worthwhile suspension things to spend money on. Adding weight to a 3400 pound car... And it looks like the rear is mounted on the eccentric camber bolts?
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talk to ruthless.. he has them all i believe.
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Originally Posted by Neimad
I have camber arms and mid-links, still on stock 95k mile bushings, feels very solid, do not feel any need for more bracing.

So many more worthwhile suspension things to spend money on. Adding weight to a 3400 pound car... And it looks like the rear is mounted on the eccentric camber bolts?
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I had 100k and it felt fine. Then I put urethane bushings throughout- front,rear,diff. They made a noticeable difference in ride and response of the car. If your still on stock suspension your going to have more flex in the bushings then you'll ever get from the frame. I would spend in other places if your still fairly stock.
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Originally Posted by bmccann101
talk to ruthless.. he has them all i believe.
Yes sir I did...then removed everything except the fender braces. IMHO the fender braces are the only things worth the money, and that's after you have coilovers, sways, and all the other goods.
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Ill take it one more step for u op.. if you had urethane or slid bushings elsewhere in your suspension..then the braces may then help..if I buy braces for mushy stock pieces..u effectively load more force back onto them.

The bushings r all the best baby for the buck first off.

Just temeber that flex comes from.force.. and of you stop that flex..that force will just go elsewhere.


Same idea as you're either goingvto burn a clutch, burn the tires, or lose traction.. usually its a happy blend of a bit of everything.
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Originally Posted by Neimad
So many more worthwhile suspension things to spend money on. Adding weight to a 3400 pound car... And it looks like the rear is mounted on the eccentric camber bolts?
I have Nismo S tune springs and shocks, Tanabe rear SB and Cusco (Topspeed knock off) Front bar. Also 9.5 rims with sticky tires. Yes looks like it's mounted to Camber Arms (bolts)...is that a problem? Shouldn't be.
Reason I'm looking at these particular pieces is that they *tie together* the Front Arms and rear lateral arms. I don't see added weight (sits at low points) a big deal here..I don't track the car either.
Old 01-18-2012, 04:51 PM
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Both are useless, the 4 point under chassis bar is one i would look into. Probably does more in protection that stiffness. 4 or 6 point roll bar will do wonders for flex.

With the subframe on soft crappy bushings, nothing in the rear will be noticed.
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
Both are useless, the 4 point under chassis bar is one i would look into. Probably does more in protection that stiffness. 4 or 6 point roll bar will do wonders for flex.

With the subframe on soft crappy bushings, nothing in the rear will be noticed.
Roll bar for sure..not going there though.
I'm thinking that they won't do much as well. The subframes they attatch to are already pretty well gussetted and reinforced.
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That was my point, there is not enough flex normally there to move the weakest link, the eccentric bolts. So why tie the weakest links together?

Get a diff, replace bushings as needed, get arms when you want more camber etc., Enjoy.

I spent around $7000 on suspension last year, still have rear bushes, sway bars, adj endlinks and roll center adj to go, never once looked at those braces as anything worthwhile.
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
Both are useless, the 4 point under chassis bar is one i would look into. Probably does more in protection that stiffness. 4 or 6 point roll bar will do wonders for flex.

With the subframe on soft crappy bushings, nothing in the rear will be noticed.
I installed the four point mid chassis brace and felt a noticeable difference. Good point also on the brace protecting the y-pipe ect. My brace is all scraped up but I don't mind at all because my y pipe is perfect.

I have both rear braces along with Sikky solid aluminum subframe bushings and the difference over stock is huge. How much of the improvement are the braces? Probably little to none.

I'm also running the front brace and didn't feel any noticeable difference in the front suspension/steering. I am still running the stock bushings in the inner translink positions (where the brace connects) and as others have pointed out those are flexing long before the frame/mounts are.

OP these braces are not needed at your level, or mine 'till i replace the rest of the rubber in my suspension for that matter. Guys running nothing but SPL bushings everywhere may benefit from these. Do look into the four point brace though, you know it's a big improvement when you can feel the difference driving on the street. Maybe try to find a used one so you dont feel as bad when it's six months old and completely destroyed, that's what I did.
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Originally Posted by SoCal07HR
I installed the four point mid chassis brace and felt a noticeable difference. Good point also on the brace protecting the y-pipe ect. My brace is all scraped up but I don't mind at all because my y pipe is perfect.
Do look into the four point brace though, you know it's a big improvement when you can feel the difference driving on the street. Maybe try to find a used one so you dont feel as bad when it's six months old and completely destroyed, that's what I did.
So, ya think that ones worth putting on...I guess this is i t?



I have dual Gemini with *X* pipe like pic above. Should clear exhaust.
Do they provide the bolts for those?

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Originally Posted by ronn1
So, ya think that ones worth putting on...I guess this is i t?



I have dual Gemini with *X* pipe like pic above. Should clear exhaust.
That's the one. IMO that brace is the only one worth the money.
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A lot of members have said those tiny braces under the car don't do much other than look nice. Have you looked into the fender braces too? That and the 4-point are probably the only ones where you'll feel a difference.

https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-...view-pics.html
https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-...races-wow.html
https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-...s-install.html
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Originally Posted by SoCal07HR
That's the one. IMO that brace is the only one worth the money.
I see there's no parts attatched to the stock mounting points...what hardware is used to mount it?
Old 01-18-2012, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Naut
A lot of members have said those tiny braces under the car don't do much other than look nice. Have you looked into the fender braces too? That and the 4-point are probably the only ones where you'll feel a difference.

https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-...view-pics.html
https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-...races-wow.html
https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-...s-install.html
I have seen the fender braces and they are the best bang for the buck.
Looks like a lot more work there though. Might consider later on. Just want a simple bolt on for now....thanks for info.
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