Eibachs vs. RS-R Ti Springs?
I have the Eibachs now, and love them, but looking at options for better handling, anyone have real track experience with the RS-R ti springs? thanks!
Food for thought. The RSR's are linear in the rear and maybe one coil or so up front devoted to being progressive.
As soon as the regular RSR springs are restocked I'm getting a set to test. Otherwise I'll have someone make me some linear springs.
Here's a pic of the RSR Ti springs.
As soon as the regular RSR springs are restocked I'm getting a set to test. Otherwise I'll have someone make me some linear springs.
Here's a pic of the RSR Ti springs.
Here is the description from the RS-R website:
"RS*R Ti2000 lowering springs
The lowering spring has been around for ages. But the materials, treatments and technology to which each spring is made from has now taken a new turn. With cutting edge technology, the Ti2000 springs are composed of titanium, providing weight reductions of 25% compared to the traditional lowering spring. Along with weight reductions, the Ti2000 springs have improved resistance to corrosion, spring strength, and responsiveness."
"RS*R Ti2000 lowering springs
The lowering spring has been around for ages. But the materials, treatments and technology to which each spring is made from has now taken a new turn. With cutting edge technology, the Ti2000 springs are composed of titanium, providing weight reductions of 25% compared to the traditional lowering spring. Along with weight reductions, the Ti2000 springs have improved resistance to corrosion, spring strength, and responsiveness."
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Originally posted by protocav
eric,
the eibachs are progressive, and the rs*r's are only slightly linear in the front.
look at my post in your thread "why coilovers" to see why this would be better.
Chad
eric,
the eibachs are progressive, and the rs*r's are only slightly linear in the front.
look at my post in your thread "why coilovers" to see why this would be better.
Chad
Originally posted by Eric1h
thanks! i definetly understand the benefits of linear vs. progressive rate springs, especially for the track. the Eibachs have handled well on the track for being progressive, trying to get feedback on the RSR ti's. your input is helpful though.
thanks! i definetly understand the benefits of linear vs. progressive rate springs, especially for the track. the Eibachs have handled well on the track for being progressive, trying to get feedback on the RSR ti's. your input is helpful though.
ask him in a week or two..
-Jeff
Originally posted by bobowah
hfm will be getting these installed today... by a buddy for mine.
ask him in a week or two..
-Jeff
hfm will be getting these installed today... by a buddy for mine.
ask him in a week or two..
-Jeff
Sorry Eric, I can't give you track experience but, I take the twisties every day on my daily commute so I should be able to make a few more comments after a weeks worth of driving.
All in all, definitely worth the money and I would say is a must do modification at some point in time.
Originally posted by hfm
The RS*R Ti2000's are on. The difference between these springs and stock are quite amazing. A significant improvement over bumps was evident driving back home. Handling and the bounce issue seems to improved but, I'm going to reserve overall judgement on this as well as the bounce issue until after a week or two of driving. I don't believe the bounce is 100% eliminated but is substantially improved. Handling seems tighter probably because the center of gravity has changed. I'll do alignment after a month or so of settling. As for the difference in linear and progressive, I can't comment since I really don't know the difference.
Sorry Eric, I can't give you track experience but, I take the twisties every day on my daily commute so I should be able to make a few more comments after a weeks worth of driving.
All in all, definitely worth the money and I would say is a must do modification at some point in time.
The RS*R Ti2000's are on. The difference between these springs and stock are quite amazing. A significant improvement over bumps was evident driving back home. Handling and the bounce issue seems to improved but, I'm going to reserve overall judgement on this as well as the bounce issue until after a week or two of driving. I don't believe the bounce is 100% eliminated but is substantially improved. Handling seems tighter probably because the center of gravity has changed. I'll do alignment after a month or so of settling. As for the difference in linear and progressive, I can't comment since I really don't know the difference.
Sorry Eric, I can't give you track experience but, I take the twisties every day on my daily commute so I should be able to make a few more comments after a weeks worth of driving.
All in all, definitely worth the money and I would say is a must do modification at some point in time.
i agree with HFM. I have the downsprings but from what i hear there same thing just different material...
The RS-Rs ride quality is just slightly better than stock. You still feel every bump in the road and u still have a little bit of bounce. But it has improved. IMO the handeling is better. Donno how they compare to the Eibach tho. Well worth the $$ for me
The RS-Rs ride quality is just slightly better than stock. You still feel every bump in the road and u still have a little bit of bounce. But it has improved. IMO the handeling is better. Donno how they compare to the Eibach tho. Well worth the $$ for me
Last edited by 350ZOWNZ; Mar 13, 2004 at 07:11 PM.
Originally posted by zland
What is the amount of drop?
How much wt is really saved in pounds? I already know the percentof wt savings?
What is the amount of drop?
How much wt is really saved in pounds? I already know the percentof wt savings?
The drop is .6" front and rear. I didn't weigh the springs but my guess would be that were talking a couple pounds at most.
Okay, I spent this morning in the twisties off Mulholand Dr. There is a serious difference in performance. I would say that the handling has been improved by as much as 20%!
The serious 15 mph turns are much easier to negotiate than before. Confidence is high for long, wide sweeping turns at high speed. The car is definitely glued better to the ground. High speed driving at 120+ mph feels more stable. Changing lanes is smooth and there is less roll and dive when shifting across from one lane to another. Bumps are soaked up much better than stock coils.
I really didn't notice as much difference driving back from the installation yesterday but putting her throught the paces this morning in canyon roads, she cut through the twisties like butter. I was really impressed by how much more responsive and more solid handling the car felt after installation of these springs.
This modification is definitely worth the investment. At some point in time I'll do the EVO sways and the Koni shocks, probably when they're available as a package. If over the course of the next few weeks I see the bounce issue pretty much eliminated, I will be such a happy camper.
This modification is a great value in terms of price for performance. It has my recommendation.
The serious 15 mph turns are much easier to negotiate than before. Confidence is high for long, wide sweeping turns at high speed. The car is definitely glued better to the ground. High speed driving at 120+ mph feels more stable. Changing lanes is smooth and there is less roll and dive when shifting across from one lane to another. Bumps are soaked up much better than stock coils.
I really didn't notice as much difference driving back from the installation yesterday but putting her throught the paces this morning in canyon roads, she cut through the twisties like butter. I was really impressed by how much more responsive and more solid handling the car felt after installation of these springs.
This modification is definitely worth the investment. At some point in time I'll do the EVO sways and the Koni shocks, probably when they're available as a package. If over the course of the next few weeks I see the bounce issue pretty much eliminated, I will be such a happy camper.
This modification is a great value in terms of price for performance. It has my recommendation.
Originally posted by hfm
Okay, I spent this morning in the twisties off Mulholand Dr. There is a serious difference in performance. I would say that the handling has been improved by as much as 20%!
The serious 15 mph turns are much easier to negotiate than before. Confidence is high for long, wide sweeping turns at high speed. The car is definitely glued better to the ground. High speed driving at 120+ mph feels more stable. Changing lanes is smooth and there is less roll and dive when shifting across from one lane to another. Bumps are soaked up much better than stock coils.
I really didn't notice as much difference driving back from the installation yesterday but putting her throught the paces this morning in canyon roads, she cut through the twisties like butter. I was really impressed by how much more responsive and more solid handling the car felt after installation of these springs.
This modification is definitely worth the investment. At some point in time I'll do the EVO sways and the Koni shocks, probably when they're available as a package. If over the course of the next few weeks I see the bounce issue pretty much eliminated, I will be such a happy camper.
This modification is a great value in terms of price for performance. It has my recommendation.
Okay, I spent this morning in the twisties off Mulholand Dr. There is a serious difference in performance. I would say that the handling has been improved by as much as 20%!
The serious 15 mph turns are much easier to negotiate than before. Confidence is high for long, wide sweeping turns at high speed. The car is definitely glued better to the ground. High speed driving at 120+ mph feels more stable. Changing lanes is smooth and there is less roll and dive when shifting across from one lane to another. Bumps are soaked up much better than stock coils.
I really didn't notice as much difference driving back from the installation yesterday but putting her throught the paces this morning in canyon roads, she cut through the twisties like butter. I was really impressed by how much more responsive and more solid handling the car felt after installation of these springs.
This modification is definitely worth the investment. At some point in time I'll do the EVO sways and the Koni shocks, probably when they're available as a package. If over the course of the next few weeks I see the bounce issue pretty much eliminated, I will be such a happy camper.
This modification is a great value in terms of price for performance. It has my recommendation.
Last edited by jmark; Mar 14, 2004 at 03:39 PM.
Originally posted by jmark
Thanks for the report. I hear you saying the bounce is better but not gone. I would think the shocks are a bigger piece of the bounce puzzle than the springs. I am going to approach this the opposite way with the Konis & sways first. I really don't want to lower the car anyway.
Thanks for the report. I hear you saying the bounce is better but not gone. I would think the shocks are a bigger piece of the bounce puzzle than the springs. I am going to approach this the opposite way with the Konis & sways first. I really don't want to lower the car anyway.
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