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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 02:34 PM
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i am noticing that when the sun beams straight down on the hood that there is haziness in the clear. is this just due to wax buildup? i do wax the car with meguires cleaner wax every 2-3 weeks. but i am not noticing it anywhere else on the car except on the hatch/trunk area.

if it isnt just wax buildup, what can i do to fix this? next week ill wash the car with dawn and re-wax it after and see if that helps. 2 months ago i buffed the entire car and have been meticulously keeping it up since. is anyone else experiencing this?
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 02:40 PM
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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you dont think i didnt try. it wont show up on the pics i took.....ill try to find a better camera. you can only see it when the sun beams straight down on the car and if you get right up on it and look.

but thanks for your input, now i know exactly what to do to correct this issue
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 07:19 PM
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I work for a company that details cars so I might be able to help you out here. I'm 99% sure that you didn't buff all of the wax out of the car. Every time I wax a car and there is haze on the finish, there is still wax on the surface. When I buff a car after waxing it, I can use up to 10 microfiber towels, sometimes more. After I buff out all of the wax on the car, I run over it one more time with a clean microfiber to ensure there is no haze left or wax that I accidentally left behind.
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Kyle R
I work for a company that details cars so I might be able to help you out here. I'm 99% sure that you didn't buff all of the wax out of the car. Every time I wax a car and there is haze on the finish, there is still wax on the surface. When I buff a car after waxing it, I can use up to 10 microfiber towels, sometimes more. After I buff out all of the wax on the car, I run over it one more time with a clean microfiber to ensure there is no haze left or wax that I accidentally left behind.
thanks kyle, i dont really remember seeing it on the car right after it was buffed, but i may be mistaken.

so if it is just wax buildup, washing the car with dawn real good should remove the rest of it?
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by smaqaho
i do wax the car with meguires cleaner wax every 2-3 weeks. but i am not noticing it anywhere else on the car except on the hatch/trunk area.
This may be counter productive with a one-step wax. You remove and wax. Then you remove and wax. Then again.
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 06:58 AM
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thanks kyle, i dont really remember seeing it on the car right after it was buffed, but i may be mistaken.

so if it is just wax buildup, washing the car with dawn real good should remove the rest of it?
Honestly, the whole "wax build up" thing is almost non existent. I mean, has anyone really ever seen wax build up? 99% of the time, people claim it is wax build up, but really they just didn't remove all of the wax. Washing the car with dawn will take off just about all of the wax. I would just wash the car, then run over the whole car with a clean microfiber and apply a descent amount of pressure to remove all of the leftover wax on the surface. When you wax your car, do you apply the wax in multiple thin coats, or one thick coat?
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 07:10 AM
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I think I may know what you you're talking about but hard to tell w/o pics.
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 07:20 AM
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This may be counter productive with a one-step wax. You remove and wax. Then you remove and wax. Then again.
this is a one step wax but honestly, i couldnt find anything better at autozone. i used to use zaino on my mustang and it seemed ok.....not as hyped up as others made it to be though. i didnt shine and deeper than normal, the only thing i noticed is that it wouldnt come off with dawn.

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When you wax your car, do you apply the wax in multiple thin coats, or one thick coat?
ill do one thin coat every 2-3 weeks or so. i was always told that was better than a thick coat. i also apply it in my garage rather than in the sun
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SILENT HAV0C
I think I may know what you you're talking about but hard to tell w/o pics.
ill try to find a better camera then and wait until the sun is beaming straight down on the hood.....literally. 8am- cant see it, 12pm- can see it, 6pm- cant see it.
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Haze and holograms in the paint are hard to see unless you have direct sunlight or the right lighting (Brinkmann TuffMax Dual LED Pivot Spotlight). It's most often caused by too much heat while buffing the paint. It can also come from low quality towels and applicators as well if used with enough arm pressure but this is far less likely. Using a bonnet on a buffer is another huge cause of swirls.

It's highly unlikely the haze is left over wax as you can simply just wipe that off and you will see that in most lighting. Each time you use a wax you make it harder to see the haze but as the wax fades it's more easily seen. To remove the haze you will need to polish the paint with a light polish. The Menzerna PO106FA Nano Polish (Super Finish) and Meguiar's Ultra Finishing Polish M205 are some of the best light polishes on the market. They help remove oxidation, haze, holograms and swirls in the paint, instead of just covering them up. After you are done you should then protect the paint with a quality sealant or wax. Ideally I would apply the polish with a buffer like the Porter Cable 7424XP Random Orbital Buffer. This buffer is very safe and easy to use so I highly recommend it to anyone who wants to polish their paint and make it look like new again.

You may also want to read our detailing guide to make sure you are getting the best results possible. There are tons of tips and instructions there to ensure you get outstanding results from each step. If you have any other questions please let me know I'd be happy to help.
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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thanks!!

are those two polishes applicable by hand or is a machine needed?
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Originally Posted by smaqaho
thanks!!

are those two polishes applicable by hand or is a machine needed?
Like virtually all polishes they can be applied by hand or by machine. Both of those polishes are light cutting so select one or the other, not both. A buffer will help you work in the polishing particles for best results, so a buffer is ideal. If you you are looking for a safe and highly effective option check out the Porter Cable 7424XP Random Orbital Buffer. If you have any questions please let me know.

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w00t w00t! I know I'm reviving a dead thread but whatever lol. I've got the same problem. Two weeks ago I removed some etched water spots with Meg's Scratch X. When I was done, I applied a thin layer of wax on it and buffed it all out. I'm fairly certain I got it all because I go over the area quite a bit with multiple sides of my microfiber towel. The whole time after that, the weather has been fairly cool and nice until recently. Now we're boasting 96 in November, . The past two days my car has been in the sun, in this crazy heat uder direct sunlight. I went outside and did a walk-around the car like I usually do to check for anything funny (scratches, swirls, tires, etc etc). I ended up finding some mean haze on the rear right panel I worked on two weeks ago. I was pretty shocked, needless to say. All I'm wondering is.... was it the really high temperature of the paint that caused this haziness? There's no haze anywhere else on the car so I'm pretty confused whether it's just the wax or Scratch X that helped make this happen.
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w00t w00t! I know I'm reviving a dead thread but whatever lol. I've got the same problem. Two weeks ago I removed some etched water spots with Meg's Scratch X. When I was done, I applied a thin layer of wax on it and buffed it all out. I'm fairly certain I got it all because I go over the area quite a bit with multiple sides of my microfiber towel. The whole time after that, the weather has been fairly cool and nice until recently. Now we're boasting 96 in November, . The past two days my car has been in the sun, in this crazy heat uder direct sunlight. I went outside and did a walk-around the car like I usually do to check for anything funny (scratches, swirls, tires, etc etc). I ended up finding some mean haze on the rear right panel I worked on two weeks ago. I was pretty shocked, needless to say. All I'm wondering is.... was it the really high temperature of the paint that caused this haziness? There's no haze anywhere else on the car so I'm pretty confused whether it's just the wax or Scratch X that helped make this happen.
Tough to say for sure. If you wipe down that panel with Isopropyl Alcohol (check out our latest Ask a Pro article about IPA). It will remove all the wax or sealant on the surface. If that removes the haze than it was the wax. If it doesn't that it's a problem with the clear coat. Assuming that panel was not repainted, just try polishing it again with the ScratchX. If that doesn't work you may need a more aggressive polish. The ScratchX is a very light polish so the Meguiar's M205 and then the M105 may be needed.
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