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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 04:14 AM
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Took my Z to the local 1/8th track today. My first time ever drag racing with a manual transmission car. Best time was 8.9. What can I do to improve my launch? This base model's open differential is killing me it feels like! If I launch at anything over 1.2k it just roasts the tires. I had to baby it off the line every single time with constant 2.2 60' which was a big factor on my times. Any advice from the drag ******? I'd like to keep going back and practice. My shifts are pretty good but my launch is definitely the part that needs most improvement.
It's probably your tires. I had an open diff and cut a 1.9 60ft before. What tires you have, how many miles on them, and tire pressure play a lot into your 60ft.

Before I put my diff in I could launch around 2500rpms without spinning the tires on a mildly (ok probably badly) prepped track.
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 04:17 AM
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Well I didn't really want to make another thread and didn't see where else to post this. and to be honest I wouldn't know if the track prep was great or terrible. I just know that if I even tried to launch a little bit it was either wheel hop or roast the tires off the line. I was on the stock 18" wheels with 38psi. Again, I'm a drag noob, but am definitely looking to improve.
38? I thought stock tire pressure was 35psi?

Either way, when drag racing it should be lower. I think most guys start at around 30psi and go down 1psi until they get a good launch. If the times start getting worse then there should be an air hose at the track to put more air in the tires.
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 04:23 AM
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38? I thought stock tire pressure was 35psi?

Either way, when drag racing it should be lower. I think most guys start at around 30psi and go down 1psi until they get a good launch. If the times start getting worse then there should be an air hose at the track to put more air in the tires.
Okay i'll remember that. thanks.
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 04:45 AM
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Default I don't mean to sound like a know it all wiseguy BUT

What is so hard to understand that radial street tire are designed for the street. They will hop when giving too much gas = poor accelaration & possible axle breakage. Take one pound out at a time?

Why not spin the tires & just take a look at the patch of rubber on the road. l'm not going to say what to look for because if you can't figure it out yourself....................
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 05:08 AM
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What is so hard to understand that radial street tire are designed for the street. They will hop when giving too much gas = poor accelaration & possible axle breakage. Take one pound out at a time?

Why not spin the tires & just take a look at the patch of rubber on the road. l'm not going to say what to look for because if you can't figure it out yourself....................
How exaclty " can you look at the patch in the road" where are talking about legal drag strips. By the time you get your time slips the track has already been swept, sprayed and the next guy has ran. Also I donno if you have looked at drag strip staging lanes, but the cars run in a groove pretty much (indention in the track). There will not be any type of tire patch to tell what you or anyone else did. He is right about the tire pressure you can only judge by feel of the car and the timeslips, one PSI at a time is what most do.
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 05:23 AM
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How exaclty " can you look at the patch in the road" where are talking about legal drag strips. By the time you get your time slips the track has already been swept, sprayed and the next guy has ran. Also I donno if you have looked at drag strip staging lanes, but the cars run in a groove pretty much (indention in the track). There will not be any type of tire patch to tell what you or anyone else did. He is right about the tire pressure you can only judge by feel of the car and the timeslips, one PSI at a time is what most do.
SSHhhhh, don't tell this to anyone. If you're home, you can do a spin in front of your house, a safe street, even an empty parking lot, even an empty part of a crowded lot. If you're at the track, find a space that is safe. All you need is 2 to 4 feet of rubber.

How do you end up thinking of looking at a patch on the drag strip's starting line???? You're voting for Obama, aren't you?
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 05:49 AM
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Of course I'm talking about the WIDTH of the tire making road contact. There is also the LENGHT of rubber making road contact & ways to increase it. I don't dare to go there. Minds might explode I guess I am a wise guy. Is that a crime?
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 05:50 AM
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We are talking drag strip conditons. I donno if you know this but a drag strip and a road/parking lot is a whole world of difference. Cars will act alot different from a prepped strip to a road.
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 06:09 AM
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lol Wird you do know who youre talking to right? I think he knows a little thing or two about drag racing
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 06:21 AM
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I didnt get his second post ( right before I posted). I think it was a lack of communication issue. After reading his last post I see where he was going with this. Yes I been around drag racing all my life, everything from bikes to door slammer cars, street and strip cars.
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 06:22 AM
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lol Wird you do know who youre talking to right? I think he knows a little thing or two about drag racing
"you know who you're talking to" Ha, ha, that's funny. I'm just an old retired guy with free time on my hands. I'm not really serious with my wise guy answers. With all the stupid things I've done, I shouldn't act this way Thanks anyway.....

After seeing your road patch, you can save the car from many runs by not going one pound at a time.

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Originally Posted by andre12031948
After seeing your road patch, you can save the car from many runs by not going one pound at a time.
I usually just drop it right to 25psi and drop it 1psi at a time until it sticks. Then go home and bring it back up to 35psi at the nearest gas station.

and yeah i run street tires!
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 04:35 PM
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sounds like I need to drop my tire pressure next time. technically, what should I be able to launch at with my 08 Base 350z? 290whp/255tq.
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Originally Posted by Bmurray350z
sounds like I need to drop my tire pressure next time. technically, what should I be able to launch at with my 08 Base 350z? 290whp/255tq.
Depends on the track prep and what tires you got. I would start at 3000 to 3500 rpm and see what happens!
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tranceformer95
Depends on the track prep and what tires you got. I would start at 3000 to 3500 rpm and see what happens!
good lord. this tire pressure must change things quite a bit. trying at 2k with regular tire pressure didn't work out so well.. lol. but thanks guys for the info. had no idea about lowering the tire pressure. completely new to this.
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 07:36 PM
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Lowering your street tire to 20psi isn't really good for your tire and doesn't yield any better results, imho. I don't ever recall going below 27 psi on street tires when I used to drag race.

Work on your technique and find what works best that day with those conditions on that track with that prep.. see where this is going? Technique should be priority -- my 2 cents.
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 07:38 PM
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well I will just test the waters and see what happens. from my research, it really isn't necessary to heat up the tires at the "water box" unless you are running slicks? correct me if i'm wrong.
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Go around the water box and do a light burn out to shake the debris loose.
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 07:58 PM
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No need to heat street tires. Just do a mild spin to shed the water and gravel off them on the way up to the line.
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Old Oct 2, 2012 | 04:22 AM
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alright sounds good. thanks again guys.
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