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Old 08-18-2008, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by wendull
just ran my 04 base 6 m/t bone stock tonight and got a 14.213@100.28 with a 2.276 60 foot i don't think i did to bad for only driving the car for 3 months
With a time slip 3hree5ive0ero may add you to 100% stock down to the tire. Are you driving a 2004 with the original tires?
Old 08-18-2008, 10:09 AM
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Would using RACE GAS on 100% stock still be placed under Stock Timing category?
Old 08-18-2008, 04:53 PM
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Personally, I don't see how using race gas does anything beneficial for you at the track, so I don't see why you'd even waste your money on race gas for a stock car.

However, you said "stock timing." What does that mean? We have no such category. If anything was modified, it would fall under bolt-ons/NA category.
Old 08-18-2008, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ART_
Would using RACE GAS on 100% stock still be placed under Stock Timing category?
Running race gas on a stock Z would actually not help it in any way. Race gas allows you to be more aggressive with timing with less risk of significant detonation. The gas in and of itself does not improve the power output of the vehicle. I actually tried this once for fun and it did not improve anything. If anything, it may have made it slower, but I don't know why it would.
Old 08-18-2008, 08:44 PM
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Wouldn't that race gas, if leaded, be pretty harmful for your cats?
Old 08-18-2008, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pat Bateman
Wouldn't that race gas, if leaded, be pretty harmful for your cats?
Yes, I believe so.

I was using 101 unleaded, so no damage, but no benefit either.
Old 08-19-2008, 08:30 AM
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Just wanted to know if 1/4 mile time using race gas would still be considered "100% stock down to the tire", looks like yes, that's all I needed to know.
Old 08-19-2008, 08:48 AM
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If all you did was just use race gas with no other mods (any type) down to stock tires, then yes, I guess you could be considered to be on the 100% stock list.
Old 08-19-2008, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ART_
Just wanted to know if 1/4 mile time using race gas would still be considered "100% stock down to the tire", looks like yes, that's all I needed to know.
Higher octane fuel actually has less energy per unit of volume, so you're going to make less power than running what the car is designed for + a hair. I typically run 92 or 93 and timing doesn't get pulled, any more and you are just wasting your money.
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Originally Posted by Peak350
Higher octane fuel actually has less energy per unit of volume, so you're going to make less power than running what the car is designed for + a hair. I typically run 92 or 93 and timing doesn't get pulled, any more and you are just wasting your money.
I appreciate your feedback, however my question was not about race gas benefits.
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Originally Posted by ART_
Would using RACE GAS on 100% stock still be placed under Stock Timing category?
What octane do YOU consider race gas to be??
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SB103

or

C10

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Old 08-20-2008, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ART_
I appreciate your feedback, however my question was not about race gas benefits.
Sorry, was reading too many things at once, was more agreeing it doesn't serve a benefit (aside from excessively hot climates).
Old 08-20-2008, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
If all you did was just use race gas with no other mods (any type) down to stock tires, then yes, I guess you could be considered to be on the 100% stock list.
Wouldn't that fall under the Ricer Logic Class, instead of 100% stock?
Old 08-21-2008, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by davidv
With a time slip 3hree5ive0ero may add you to 100% stock down to the tire. Are you driving a 2004 with the original tires?
Well sorry it took so long to respond but i could not find the page agian. i can post my slip tonight i am at work till 2am. I think the tires are stock the guy i bought the car from said that they were. I think they are bridgstone but not positive and i know the rims are stock. They only thing i added to the car was a k and N oil filter and royal purple motor oil. I hope that is stock enough to make it on the list i will post back later tonight though.
Old 08-21-2008, 04:27 PM
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that is not stock wendull ^^^^^^^^^^^
Old 08-21-2008, 04:32 PM
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To be considered stock, you must be using stock fluids with stock parts. If any part of your car has any non-OEM part on it, then it is no longer considered "stock" for this thread.

HDPD, I guess it does. Should we create a new category/list for those?
Old 08-21-2008, 06:07 PM
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ahh ok well it is a good thing that i know that now so what would that be under in a class bolt on stuff right
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I hope they were being sarcastic, if you have Bridgestone RE040 245 width tires you fit the list.
Old 08-21-2008, 06:52 PM
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By whose standards? It was agreed initially in this thread that any modification to the car, including a K&N drop-in filter (which he has), will bump you out of the stock list. Hopefully, your "stock" time was done with factory/OEM parts. It's been that way up until now and it's not changing.

Personally, race gas to me doesn't matter, but my opinion isn't the authority - it's the general consensus that matters. And as far as my "fluids" comment goes, just ignore it. I don't know what I was thinking.


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