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Old 05-17-2007, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Peak350
I think that a separate list between DR's, full slicks, and street tires would be the best thing. Slicks will pull more off than the HR motor does.

When I've run I've thought I could get more out of the car, but its temperature and traction thats limiting me. Slicks would pull almost .6 off my run...easily if the car didn't bog (wouldn't with a good launch). So I don't think a .2-.3 tenth difference justifies the separation.
I've only begun racing on slicks (only about 10 passes on slicks) so I'm not that knowledgeable on the matter. However, I don't think slicks can shave off as much as .6 seconds as you mentioned above, unless of course you just plain suck and can't get a 2.0 on streets. If I can do it in the hot and humid TX weather, then you guys should be able to (maybe not desert state guys).

Originally Posted by davidv
Im think we have too many lists now. An example is Nitrous. Nitrous is stagnant. The numbers remain the same. No one moves. No one competes. Its boring.
I disagree. If we don't have a separate rankings list for Nitrous, then where would we put them? I do agree that there aren't much participation in that specific list, but as soon as I get the first-third place (without built motor) in NA, I'll be shooting for the top Nitrous time, which shouldn't be too hard. I'll make the list move.
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:14 AM
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second list so that it doesn't end up just being 07's+ at the top. Plus maybe make the vq35de a top 50 list instead of a top 25 and i might get on it haha
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
I disagree. If we don't have a separate rankings list for Nitrous, then where would we put them?
I would like to see one class for forced-induction. Just like competition racing: 6 cylinder with power adder. Look at the times in the forced-induction classes. They overlap. Neither has a clear advantage. Why not a Top 25 forced induction?
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Old 05-18-2007, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
I've only begun racing on slicks (only about 10 passes on slicks) so I'm not that knowledgeable on the matter. However, I don't think slicks can shave off as much as .6 seconds as you mentioned above, unless of course you just plain suck and can't get a 2.0 on streets. If I can do it in the hot and humid TX weather, then you guys should be able to (maybe not desert state guys).
Slicks (bias ply not DOT approved slicks btw) will net 1.6 or lower 60' on good prep with a non idiot driver. Thats .4 off in the 60', if you use a slipped clutch from 5,000 RPM launch, the car shouldn't bog. Assuming you're launch is grip limited (is in our cars) then each .1 off the 60' usually results in .13 to .15 off the ET. Hence why I was assuming .5-.6 difference (and .6 sounds better )

If you have a treaded DR its a different ballgame, the tire is a compromise in itself. Soft rubber, almost non-existent sidewall, thin tread section and not much tread (keeps weight down). But still a street tire, and not necessarily bias ply.

FWIW I've never run on DR's or Slicks. Just basing this off what I've seen, and what friends have seen in changes from going from street->DR's->full slicks.
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Old 05-18-2007, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Hraesvelg
definitely change the list when the Z gets the 3.7L... might keep it the same for now and play it by ear. The Z did gain a few pounds didn't it?
Yeah, at the track last night an 07 was running 14.0 with a 2.0 60'
I guess some can do more with it than others but its not like its a totally different car.
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Old 05-18-2007, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by davidv
Im think we have too many lists now. An example is Nitrous. Nitrous is stagnant. The numbers remain the same. No one moves. No one competes. Its boring.
Why would someone want to put a time on a list that has a cheater/liar on it?
Especially when he's got the second fastest time

Anyway, what about the single turbo list? If it wasn't for Performance Factory and the Florida boys it would just be Alberto and he ain't got that setup anymore.
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Ok, heres the plan guys.


After we get a few more votes and the majority agrees, what I would like to see is.


1. Top 25 TT list
2. Top 25 ST list
3. Top 25 SuperCharger
4. Top 25 Nitrous
5. Top 25 Bolt-on list for 03-06 engines
6. Top 25 Bolt-on list for 07+ engines
7. Top 50 Stock list

All that we need to do to make this work, is to have a moderator delete Dave's Post #7. That will move my 8th post up to be used as the 7th post.


Thoughts?

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Originally Posted by one350zfan
Why would someone want to put a time on a list that has a cheater/liar on it?
Especially when he's got the second fastest time
IF this time is not a honest time, i have noproblems removing it from the list. It has not been Verified so it can be easly removed.

I dont know this person and I dont remember where i got his time from.

Let me know on this guys.

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Old 05-18-2007, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by one350zfan
Why would someone want to put a time on a list that has a cheater/liar on it?
Especially when he's got the second fastest time

Anyway, what about the single turbo list? If it wasn't for Performance Factory and the Florida boys it would just be Alberto and he ain't got that setup anymore.
I mentioned nothing about cheating. Nitrous is a class not a specific member.
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Old 05-18-2007, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by aceman
Ok, heres the plan guys.


After we get a few more votes and the majority agrees, what I would like to see is.


1. Top 25 TT list
2. Top 25 ST list
3. Top 25 SuperCharger
4. Top 25 Nitrous
5. Top 25 Bolt-on list for 03-06 engines
6. Top 25 Bolt-on list for 07+ engines
7. Top 50 Stock list

All that we need to do to make this work, is to have a moderator delete Dave's Post #7. That will move my 8th post up to be used as the 7th post.


Thoughts?

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It will takes years to fill 200 slots. I do not think we have 200 members racing.
We may never see 25 times in single turbo or nitrous.
You can get on the stock list with a 16 second time slip. What happens if you make it a Top-50 list?
The list that I like best is the modified list. Its exciting because #25 is always at risk of being bumped off. Its exciting because its competitive.
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Old 05-18-2007, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by davidv
I mentioned nothing about cheating. Nitrous is a class not a specific member.
Well, it goes to your point about it being stagnant! I won't add my time until he's removed!

He's the joker that started a thread about his all-motor build that was only going to take a week!

Every time I start a thread about my times you always post the same **** about slips. Its not my responsibility to make you believe me and could care less, really. I just post threads to give/gain info and people can take them for what they are!

Let me rush and put my name on a list with six people which two are unverified
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Old 05-18-2007, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by one350zfan
Well, it goes to your point about it being stagnant! I won't add my time until he's removed!

He's the joker that started a thread about his all-motor build that was only going to take a week!

Every time I start a thread about my times you always post the same **** about slips. Its not my responsibility to make you believe me and could care less, really. I just post threads to give/gain info and people can take them for what they are!

Let me rush and put my name on a list with six people which two are unverified
I have never questioned your times. If you are running 12 seconds, it cool with me. Are you sure you don't have me confused with another member?
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Old 05-18-2007, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by davidv
I have never questioned your times. If you are running 12 seconds, it cool with me. Are you sure you don't have me confused with another member?
Post #6

https://my350z.com/forum/drag/259644-guess-e-t-and-win-money.html

Post #16

https://my350z.com/forum/drag/197052-is-my-car-running-strong.html

Waiting for a response in regards to this thread!

https://my350z.com/forum/drag/272654-trap-higher-but-et-slower.html

I understand why you do it, but its like, do you really care?

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Originally Posted by one350zfan
Post #6

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259644

Post #16

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=197052

Waiting for a response in regards to this thread!

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=272654

I understand why you do it, but its like, do you really care?
I ask everyone about time slips. Its my nature.
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Originally Posted by davidv
I ask everyone about time slips. Its my nature.
OK, I can sleep tonight now!
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Old 05-18-2007, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by one350zfan
OK, I can sleep tonight now!
Well, im glad you guys worked through that

Group HUG!!!


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Originally Posted by one350zfan
Well, it goes to your point about it being stagnant! I won't add my time until he's removed!

He's the joker that started a thread about his all-motor build that was only going to take a week!

Let me rush and put my name on a list with six people which two are unverified
Here is the thread that i believe i got his time from. There is no timeslip posted in this thread. I think when i found this time i was just trying to fill up the list by looking through all the threads in the Drag forum for times.

https://my350z.com/forum/drag/206901-small-changes-make-a-new-best-time.html

If this time can not be Verified, then it will be removed. I do remember the all motor thread, and that thread did turn out to be a big waste of time.

Anyone else know anything about this time?

Let me know

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Old 05-18-2007, 06:42 PM
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I got some time slips Im tryin to put on my computer tonite.....its looking good for the 07!! ME #1!!!
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Old 05-18-2007, 08:16 PM
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Personally, I think the 07's should not have their own list. Its still a stock or bolt on 350Z. Just my $.02
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Old 05-18-2007, 09:42 PM
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I think there should be a stock 07 list and stock 03-06 list, as the 07's are noticably faster, pretty much the same reason we are going to have an 07 bolt on list.
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