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Old 02-16-2008 | 05:40 AM
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I love my Z, but the 335 is a better car in every aspect as far as I'm concerned. Faster. More luxurious. I think it even looks better. There's something about German cars that I think is classy and aggressive at the same time. Plus, Nissan's build quality doesn't even compare to BMW's.

If I could have swung the extra $17k when I bought my Z 3 months ago, I probably wouldn't be on these forums right now.
Old 02-16-2008 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by warmmilk
i'll be at the track this sunday

i'll race u and a stock one

there is a thread in the nw forum
Unfortunately, I work Sundays.

I definately want to go as soon as possible, but I might have to wait till they open the drag strip Wednesdays and Fridays for "Test N Tune".

I am getting another upgrade next week, so I will be 100 whp over stock anyway.

After one of the 350z owners mentioned curb weight without any options...I have no doubt that they car run great 1/4 mile times.
I know for a fact that a 335 base model is almost 200lbs lighter than a fully optioned one. So there you have it.
Old 02-16-2008 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by rich150001
from what I have seen, with avg drivers, from a highway roll -- a 335i will pull on a 07 350z

How so? They both trap the same. The Z has a better CD, and lower weight. Your point has no solid proof.
Old 02-16-2008 | 11:38 AM
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How so? They both trap the same. The Z has a better CD, and lower weight. Your point has no solid proof.
Actually, roll and dig can be two different things.
Old 02-16-2008 | 11:43 AM
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Just race him tomorrow for the hell of it.
Old 02-16-2008 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Fusion
Actually, roll and dig can be two different things.
My post said nothing to the contrary.
Old 02-16-2008 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by black06z
Just race him tomorrow for the hell of it.

Damn what an avatar!
Old 02-16-2008 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Zendem
Damn what an avatar!
Biel FTW!
Old 02-16-2008 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Fusion
Unfortunately, I work Sundays.

I definately want to go as soon as possible, but I might have to wait till they open the drag strip Wednesdays and Fridays for "Test N Tune".

I am getting another upgrade next week, so I will be 100 whp over stock anyway.

After one of the 350z owners mentioned curb weight without any options...I have no doubt that they car run great 1/4 mile times.
I know for a fact that a 335 base model is almost 200lbs lighter than a fully optioned one. So there you have it.
well u said u'd find a stock one for whoever to race at any location, since ur not stock, find me a stock one to race tomorrow, i know i'll lose to u (given that u know how to pilot ur car down the strip), but a stock 335 would be a much closer race
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Originally Posted by Justin07Z
My post said nothing to the contrary.
You mention trap speeds and roll races. Neither have anything to do with each other.
Old 02-16-2008 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by HDPD350Z
You mention trap speeds and roll races. Neither have anything to do with each other.
I thought trap speed was a good indicator of how a car will perform from a roll. It won't tell you who will win and there are other factors involved, but it's not a bad basis to go off.
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Originally Posted by Sensi09
I thought trap speed was a good indicator of how a car will perform from a roll. It won't tell you who will win and there are other factors involved, but it's not a bad basis to go off.

It is the *best* indicator of what a car will do top end...don't listen to that guy.
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Originally Posted by Justin07Z
It is the *best* indicator of what a car will do top end...don't listen to that guy.
You can have two cars trap identical speeds in the 1/4, yet one will walk up and down the other one in a roll race. Trap speeds are important at the 1/4 track and not much anyplace else.
Old 02-16-2008 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by HDPD350Z
You can have two cars trap identical speeds in the 1/4, yet one will walk up and down the other one in a roll race. Trap speeds are important at the 1/4 track and not much anyplace else.
1/4 trap - 1/8th trap is important though, and the Z is about even there too, maybe even a hair ahead.
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Originally Posted by HDPD350Z
You can have two cars trap identical speeds in the 1/4, yet one will walk up and down the other one in a roll race. Trap speeds are important at the 1/4 track and not much anyplace else.
True.

I guess if I put it this way, it might make more sense to what we're both saying. I mean using the trap as a good "roll race" indicator in the typical rol on race range of say 70-120. The cars in question trap a solid 105 each. So, if you mean roll on races as well over 100, then you would be correct. Yet the trap at the end of the 1/4 mile still says a good amount about what that car can do over 100. If you want to know top end, look at car and drivers 0-120 and 1-150 tests...those are cool to see what happens well over 100.
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Originally Posted by Justin07Z
True.

I guess if I put it this way, it might make more sense to what we're both saying. I mean using the trap as a good "roll race" indicator in the typical rol on race range of say 70-120. The cars in question trap a solid 105 each. So, if you mean roll on races as well over 100, then you would be correct. Yet the trap at the end of the 1/4 mile still says a good amount about what that car can do over 100. If you want to know top end, look at car and drivers 0-120 and 1-150 tests...those are cool to see what happens well over 100.
Agreed.
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Old 02-16-2008 | 04:30 PM
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This just in: I called in sick for tomorrow...so I'll be there.

I told them this is more important.

I will see you 350z owners at Pacific Raceway tomorrow.

I will have at least one more 335 with me.

Game ON!
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Fusion, unless you run a SC or turbo Z, I don't see the point. With your mods, you should win regardless of whether you run on stock boost or not.
Old 02-16-2008 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Sensi09
Fusion, unless you run a SC or turbo Z, I don't see the point. With your mods, you should win regardless of whether you run on stock boost or not.
It's all good.
My tires are all worn out (20k miles on them /w 140 treadwear), so I'll be lucky enough to get into the 12's.


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